MUMPS User Group missing from Wikipedia

Greg Kreis

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Jun 9, 2020, 10:32:29 PM6/9/20

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I wanted to find the date of the last MUG meeting (I am thinking 1999) and noticed there is no link to MUG in Wikipedia from the MUMPS topic.

I've never established a topic in Wikipedia and it doesn't appear to be simple. Anyone with experience want to give it a go so we can collect some of the collective knowledge about MUG and its history before it is gone?

Wolfgang Giere

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Jun 10, 2020, 5:08:16 AM6/10/20

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Very good idea! I could try to contribute. I remeber the beginning with Joan Zimmerman (than in St. Louis).

Btw. at that timer there was a St. Louis based Mini-computer, used in Radiology, that had Mumps as operating system. Does anybody remeber it's name?

Wolfgang Giere

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I wanted to find the date of the last MUG meeting (I am thinking 1999) and noticed there is no link to MUG in Wikipedia from the MUMPS topic.

I've never established a topic in Wikipedia and it doesn't appear to be simple. Anyone with experience want to give it a go so we can collect some of the collective knowledge about MUG and its history before it is gone?

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George Timson

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Jun 10, 2020, 2:00:43 PM6/10/20

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I am quite sure that the last MUG was indeed in 1999, in San Diego.

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K.S. Bhaskar

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Jun 10, 2020, 3:14:35 PM6/10/20

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I seem to remember that the last MUG was 1996 in Boston, held in conjunction with some other computing event.

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Ed de Moel

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Jun 10, 2020, 5:30:29 PM6/10/20

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The most recent meeting of the MTA was September 27-29 1999 in San Diego (Hanalei Hotel).

The most recent meeting of the MDC was September 30 1999 in San Diego (Halalei Hotel)

The most recent meeting of MUG was in June 15-19 1992 in Phoenix

Wolfgang Giere

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Jun 11, 2020, 3:10:09 AM6/11/20

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Ed, do you remember the most recent MUG-Europe meeting? MUG Germany has been active since recently, two or three years ago.

Btw. MUG-Europe was founded before MUG-Germany, but I do not remember the years.

Best regards, also to Ion Diamond!

Wolfgang Giere

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The most recent meeting of the MTA was September 27-29 1999 in San Diego (Hanalei Hotel).

The most recent meeting of the MDC was September 30 1999 in San Diego (Halalei Hotel)

The most recent meeting of MUG was in June 15-19 1992 in Phoenix

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Ed de Moel

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Jun 11, 2020, 10:29:29 AM6/11/20

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I'm afraid I haven't heard much about European gatherings for quite a while. The last I heard was a couple of years ago when MTA-UK disbanded.

Ed de Moel

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Jun 11, 2020, 10:32:32 AM6/11/20

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For a complete list of all MDC meetings, see:

http://71.174.62.16/MDC/mtgs.htm

Ed de Moel

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Jun 11, 2020, 1:24:55 PM6/11/20

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On the topic of past MUG/MTA meetings, here's what I could find in my archives:

# 1: ???

# 2: ???

# 3: ???

# 4: ???

# 5: ???

# 6: ???

# 7: ???

# 8: 1979 - MUG - June 6-8, Atlanta, GA - Marriott

# 9: 1980 - MUG - May 13-16, San Diego, CA - Islandia Hyatt House

# 10: 1981 - MUG - June 15-19, Niagara Fallse, NY

# 11: 1982 - MUG - June 7-11, Denver, CO

# 12: 1983 - MUG - May 31-June 4, San Francisco, CA

# 13: 1984 - MUG - June 4-8, Philadelphia, PA - Adams Mark Hotel

# 14: 1985 - MUG - June 10-14, Chicago, IL - McCormick Conference Center

# 15: 1986 - MUG - June 9-13, San Diego, CA, Shelter Island

# 16: 1987 - MUG - June 8-12, Atlanta, GA - Hyatt Regency

# 17: 1988 - MUG - June 13-17, New Orleans, LA - Marriott

# 18: 1989 - MUG - May 15-19, Seattle, WA - Washington State Conference Center

# 19: 1990 - MUG - June 11-15, Orlando, FL - Buena Vista Palace

# 20: 1991 - MUG - June 3-7, New Orleans, LA - Hyatt Regency

# 21: 1992 - MUG - Jun 15-19, Phoenix, AZ

# 22: 1993 - MTA - Jun 21-25, Washington DC, Hilton

# 23: 1994 - MTA - June 13-17, Reno, NV

# 24: 1995 - MTA - June 5-9, Chicago, IL - Hyatt Regency O'Hare

# 25: 1996 - MTA - Mar 24-28, Boston, MA - Hynes Convention Center

# 26: 1997 - MTA - May 18-22, Boston, MA - Hynes Convention Center

# 27: 1998 - MTA - June 21-25, Boston, MA - Hynes Convention Center

# 28: 1999 - MTA - September 27-29, San Diego, CA - Hanalei Hotel

Tom Munnecke

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Sep 15, 2020, 4:10:49 PM9/15/20

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#7 1978 was in June, San Francisco, at the Jack Tar Hotel

David Whitten: I probably sent you some conference proceedings on some of these.

David Whitten

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Sep 15, 2020, 9:02:57 PM9/15/20

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I think there was one in Minnesota. I think Ed de Moel was there.

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#7 1978 was in June, San Francisco, at the Jack Tar Hotel

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Wolfgang Giere

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Sep 16, 2020, 8:36:04 AM9/16/20

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There is a website https://www.mumps.org/. But I get a firefox warning when I try to open it.

I think the first MUG-meeting was organized by Joan Zimmerman in St. Louis. And as far as I remember there was a second meeting there, organized by a radiological institution. A St. Louis based Mini-Computer had Mumps as language of the operating system. I will try to find my travel-reports of the early seventies. I tried not to miss the annual meetings and have been to many.

It is a good idea to cooperate for a Wikipedia Mumps-User-Group site. And I will try to get the data for MUG Europe and MUG-Germany as well.

Wolfgang Giere

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My first one was number 9 in San Diego.

I remember folks talking about some meetings in Sunny Brook, NY, and
around Bethesda or maybe the MUG office area.

Wolfgang Giere

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Sep 19, 2020, 4:13:07 AM9/19/20

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This is Henry Heffernans answer. Thank you Henry! It is very helpful.

Btw.: I found out the name of the computer company in St. Louis that used Mumps as control-language for it's operating-system: Artronix. And the radiological department using it was the Mallinckrodt Institute of Radiology. I visited them in 1977. The Reisebericht "Zum Mumps-Gebrauch in der Medizin" is on my website wgiere.de see 'Publikationen' and click 'Reiseberichte' (It is all German, sorry!)

Best regards

Wolfgang

PS: Does anybody know of Joan Zimmerman and what she did after Tandem?

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Wolfgang, it is good to hear from you! I pray and hope that you and your family are well and safe from the COVID virus.

I was not involved with MUG at the beginning. Richard Walters was one of the early leaders, and he was the one who asked me to join MUG to help when it was about to become incorporated. I am sure I have no materials of its initial meetings before I became involved.

If you are doing something on the history, I can probably contribute some additional information. Let me know what you want. I attended only a few of the annual meetings.

As you may know, Robert Morris University's Information Sciences School took an early interest in teaching courses on MUMPS and educated many software engineers that populated the MUG. The directoprof that program was Fred Kohun, who is still on the faculty there. Valerie Powewll, who is Emeritus, began an initiative to develop the history of MUMPS and col;elected many artifacts of the early years of MUG. Dr. Kohun wrote his PhD thesis on the MUMPS movement and is the best source I know of at present.

His contact information:

Fred G. Kohun, Ph.D.
University Professor of Computer and Information Systems (Computer and Information Systems)
ko...@rmu.edu 412-397-6228 phone (M) 412-397-6469 fax Wheatley Center 321

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 1:34 PM Wolfgang Giere <W.G...@t-online.de> wrote:

Dear Henry, I hope you rember me. And I hope you are able to fill in some early MUG-meetings. I remember Joan Zimmerman organizing one in St. Louis and also a second one there sponsored by a radiological department and a computer company that used Mumps as control language for the operating system. But I could not find out the dates yet.

I sincerely hope you are well and still active as ever.

Very best regards and thank you in advance!

Wolfgang Giere

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