"This message has been deleted." mystery!

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Pete

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Jul 4, 2016, 4:30:21 AM7/4/16
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Hi
excuse me for disturbing the group, but I'm trying to post a reply and continuously i got "This message has been deleted".
Can anybody help, please? BTW, who is the admin/moderator of this group?
Thanks in advance.

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Pete

Pete

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Jul 4, 2016, 4:54:47 AM7/4/16
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(well, it seems the above post, -- which has been sent via yahoo-mail -- finally reached to the group).
(let see if this one -- sent using reply button -- will succeed as well)

Pete

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Jul 4, 2016, 5:24:36 AM7/4/16
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the problem seems solved -- the "why this was happening" still remains a mystery. (perhaps some spam filter, for uknown reason, was overreacting against my account?. anyway...)

Pete

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Jul 4, 2016, 7:26:23 AM7/4/16
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Oh, well! the "thing" hit again.
my replies to this thread
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/harbour-devel/8Sc9YI5hnDE
have been deleted again (5 in total so far). No
choice other than to give up and sorry for the noise..

@Przemyslaw Czerpak


Przemek , I post here the result you asked me regarding ALT+key after running gtkeys.prg as advised:

GTWIN results:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Harbour 3.2.0dev (r1606292102) 07/01/16 19:46:41
Harbour Terminal: Windows native console GTWIN
Host codpage: UTF8, terminal codepage: UTF8

[Keyboard Layout : EN]
----------------------
`A`           ->  char:     65  A ext: 0x42000041 -> 00:00000041 [A]
`LEFT_ALT+A`  ->   key:    286  K_ALT_A           Alt-A ext: 0x41040041 -> 04:00000041 []
`RIGHT_ALT+A` ->  char:     65  A ext: 0x42000041 -> 00:00000041 [A]

[Keyboard Layout : EL]
----------------------
`A`           ->  char: U+0391  Α ext: 0x43000391 -> 00:00000391 [Α]
`LEFT_ALT+A`  ->  char: U+0391  Α ext: 0x43040391 -> 04:00000391 [Α]
`RIGHT_ALT+A` ->  <no response>*


GTWVT results:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Harbour 3.2.0dev (r1606292102) 07/01/16 19:51:35
Harbour Terminal: Windows GUI console (WVT) GTWVT
Host codpage: UTF8, terminal codepage: UTF8

[Keyboard Layout : EN]
----------------------
`A`           ->  char:     65  A ext: 0x42000041 -> 00:00000041 [A]
`LEFT_ALT+A`  ->   key:    286  K_ALT_A           Alt-A ext: 0x41040041 -> 04:00000041 []
`RIGHT_ALT+A` ->  char:     65  A ext: 0x42100041 -> 10:00000041 [A]

[Keyboard Layout : EL]
----------------------
`A`           ->  char: U+0391  Α ext: 0x43000391 -> 00:00000391 [Α]
`LEFT_ALT+A`  ->  char: U+0391  Α ext: 0x43040391 -> 04:00000391 [Α]
`RIGHT_ALT+A` ->  <no response>*

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By *<no response> I mean that nothing happens when pressing RIGHT_ALT+A under EL layout.
However when tried some other keys that, I got various symbols (signs).
f.e.:
RIGHT_ALT+E -> char: U+20AC  € ext: 0x430620AC -> 06:000020AC [€]  (euro currency symbol)
RIGHT_ALT+Y -> char: U+00A5  ¥ ext: 0x430600A5 -> 06:000000A5 [¥]  (yen)
RIGHT_ALT+C -> char: U+00A9  © ext: 0x430600A9 -> 06:000000A9 [©]  (copyright sign)

et.c.
I guess, the RIGHT_ALT is reserved for that special purpose,
which perhaps explains why it not reacts/affects output, under EN layout.

regards,

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Pete



Klas Engwall

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Jul 4, 2016, 3:53:17 PM7/4/16
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Hi Pete,

> the problem seems solved -- the "why this was happening" still remains a
> mystery. (perhaps some spam filter, for uknown reason, was overreacting
> against my account?. anyway...)

Yes, it is the spam filter overreacting. And moderators only get a
"digest" of suspected spam once in a while. Those digests can take up to
almost a week while regular moderation requests are generally sent
immediately. It is a very disturbing "feature" of the newsgroup software.

Your messages were still sitting in the spam queue. I have released all
of them, but it may take a little while before they appear.

Regards,
Klas

Klas Engwall

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Jul 4, 2016, 4:09:48 PM7/4/16
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Hmm, it looks like some of your messages were already released earlier
today and there was yet another bunch waiting when I logged in this
evening. At least the Google Groups software is consistently weird :-)

Regards,
Klas

Pete

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Jul 5, 2016, 2:17:03 AM7/5/16
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Hi Klas,

It's relieving to know that a trusted member like yourself, is the moderator of the of the group -- as I conclude from your words, please correct me if I guessed wrong.
I know that those spam filters,  at times, can turn really aggressive and annoying evils. well, "necessary evils", but still "evils", as proved to be in this case. :-)
Thanks for taking care, and hope they will not strike again.

regards,

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