"choreography" vs "blocking" etc

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Michele Sharik

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Aug 22, 2011, 5:50:35 PM8/22/11
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I've been watching the discussion about the words "choreography" and
"blocking" with some interest. I even posted to the "Handbell Soloist"
group on Facebook saying that I have no opinion on the matter.

Well, after giving it further thought, I found that *do* have an opinion
after all.

It has been suggested that the word "blocking" be used to describe the
physical moving of bells about the table, while "choreography" describes
visual & musical aspects of the performance.

I think this is a false dichotomy. The former determines the latter &
the latter depends on the former. They are not two processes, but one,
inseparably intertwined.

If we want to argue whether "choreography" is the correct word to
describe the process (or whether "choreography" should be reserved to
describe actual dance or schtick), I'm up for that, but let's not make
divisions where there are none.

-Mich�le

Rima

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Aug 25, 2011, 7:31:04 PM8/25/11
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Hi Michele!

> It has been suggested that the word "blocking" be used to describe the physical moving of bells about the table, while "choreography" describes visual & musical aspects of the performance.
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> I think this is a false dichotomy. The former determines the latter & the latter depends on the former. They are not two processes, but one, inseparably intertwined.

I agree, they certainly SHOULD be, by the time you're done. ;-D But I'm not sure I agree that they are the same. I think they're two sides of the same coin, but not the same side.

> If we want to argue whether "choreography" is the correct word to describe the process (or whether "choreography" should be reserved to describe actual dance or schtick), I'm up for that, but let's not make divisions where there are none.

That's noun vs verb. I think it works both ways.

This is why I was thinking to distinguish between campanography and choreography. Because you CAN (and many do!) ring without dancing (although that's obviously not my fave way to do things). And you can dance without ringing. And you can do both simultaneously.

But, I think it's an important distinction to make. For example, you could say that the first half of Sonos' current show has no "choreography" (except for the table entrance), but the second half does. I think it makes it easier for people to talk about it if you make the distinction.

Rima


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Cyndy Patterson

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Aug 26, 2011, 5:28:16 PM8/26/11
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The Rogue Ringers are looking for a piece for Organ and Bells that is great for both. We would be plain it in a concert celebrating the 20th anniversary of our pipe organ. An great ideas?

Cyndy Patterson

Stephanie Wiltse

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Aug 26, 2011, 5:46:45 PM8/26/11
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Prelude and Pasacaglia by Michael Helman... It is simply fabulous. So well
written and showcases the bells and organ to the utmost. Love it!

Stevie in MI

Janet Van Valey

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Aug 26, 2011, 6:09:53 PM8/26/11
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I agree with Michael Helman's Prelude and Passacaglia.  This is truly a duet between bells and organ - stunning.

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Lee Barrow

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Aug 26, 2011, 6:16:11 PM8/26/11
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I have a piece for organ and bells, Celebration Fanfare. I would be happy to send you a perusal score & recording. Let me know

Lee G. Barrow

Joseph D. Daniel

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Aug 26, 2011, 6:17:41 PM8/26/11
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I, too, have a setting of Lord of the Dance for bells/organ. Let me know if you'd like to see it. It isn't published as of yet...

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gj berg

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Aug 26, 2011, 7:33:53 PM8/26/11
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My favorite is Don Allured's Concertante.  Written in the 1970s, but still works today -- and is a challenge (especially with the 2 vs 3 beats between organ and bells).

(Thankful I found/kept score and handbell part, just in case I ever get married.  lol)


There's also a great arrangement of Psalm XIX that works with antiphonally with organ.

William Payn's Area XII commissioned three-part piece (blanking on the name, maybe Reverberations).  You can have organ play one part, choir another, and chimes/piano the third.

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Merry Lloyd

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Aug 26, 2011, 7:46:07 PM8/26/11
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Columbia River Handbells would like to consider this too for our spring concert 2012...
merry

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F. Thomas Simpson

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Aug 26, 2011, 7:53:58 PM8/26/11
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I thought that was written in the late 80ties. Or was that another piece for bells and organ?

Thomas

gj berg

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Aug 26, 2011, 7:57:24 PM8/26/11
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I started ringing bells in 1977 and Concertante was one I performed in the first few years.

F. Thomas Simpson

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Aug 26, 2011, 7:59:38 PM8/26/11
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Maybe it got PUBLISHED in the 80ties? I distinctly remember proof reading the bells part for Mr. A in like 1987.


Thomas

gj berg

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Aug 26, 2011, 8:04:54 PM8/26/11
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Maybe he expanded from 5 octaves?  I played printed copy in late 1970s.
gj berg
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F. Thomas Simpson

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Aug 26, 2011, 8:06:10 PM8/26/11
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Must be another one for Bells and Organ then.

Thomas

Stephanie Wiltse

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Aug 26, 2011, 8:19:41 PM8/26/11
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My copy of Don A's Concertante for bells and organ says 1976...
Commissioned by Westminster Presbyterian Church of Lincoln, Nebraska. In
fact, I've had it several years but hope we can perform it this year.

Stephanie in MI

Malcolm Wilson

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Aug 27, 2011, 2:22:31 AM8/27/11
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On 26 Aug 2011, at 22:28, Cyndy Patterson <cynd...@charter.net> wrote:

The Rogue Ringers are looking for a piece for Organ and Bells   that is great for both.  We would be plain it in a concert celebrating the 20th anniversary of our pipe organ.  An great ideas?

You might like to consider:

In Majesty Resplendent, for 3-5 octaves, level 3+ and organ or brass quintet, published by GIA Publications, code G-6315 (handbell and organ parts combined), G-6315 INST (brass quintet parts)
This was commissioned for The Atlanta Concert Ringers of St Mark United Methodist Church, Atlanta, Georgia, USA.

A video performance of this piece performed by Dunblane Cathedral Handbell Ringers and organist Matthew Beetschen on Dunblane Cathedral's Flentrop organ can be found here: www.claganach.net   


Malcolm Wilson

Susan T. Nelson

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Aug 27, 2011, 6:35:47 PM8/27/11
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<< The Rogue Ringers are looking for a piece for Organ and Bells   that is great for both.  We would be plain it in a concert celebrating the 20th anniversary of our pipe organ.  An great ideas?

Cyndy Patterson>

I have some out there:

My arrangement of John Stanley's “Trumpet Voluntary” was just released by Soundforth (HB score #279075, FS/parts #279067).  It’s for 3-5 oct. with optional organ and trumpet.  

“Coronation Fanfare” (All Hail the Power of Jesus’ Name) - 3-6 oct., organ, trumpet(s), with optional timpani and congregation.  It’s one of my “piece within a piece” selections and becomes an original composition when the hymn sections are omitted. CPH (HB score: #97-6721; FS/parts: #97-6704).

Original compositions:
“Suite for Handbells & Trumpet in the Baroque Style” - 2-3 oct., optional organ & trumpet(s). The 4 movements are: Trumpet Voluntary, Fuguing Tune, Hornpipe and Postlude. Lvl. 3. CPH  (HB score: #97-6621; Parts: #97-6627).  

"A Trumpet Voluntary" - 2-5 oct. with optional organ &/or trumpet.  The main choir is a Lvl.3, but an optional Lvl. 1 chordal bell or chime part is included.  It has 10 performance options.  4 Tolled #4T23.

"Echo Fanfare" - 3-5 oct., optional organ. Has 6 performance options including ones for antiphonal and double choir.  High Meadow #HM-08-002. 

I have 2 others (“Four Festive Hymns for the Church Year” and “Two Hymns in the Renaissance Style” but they are kind of easy.  

Sue Nelson


Paul Kinney

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Aug 30, 2011, 1:40:13 PM8/30/11
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I've made an arrangement of the Grand-Choir Dialogue of Eugene Gigout
for 5-7 octaves of bells and organ. The original alternates between manuals
of the organ. I transferred one manual part to bells. It is published by Above
the Line and I'm sure Rima can supply the link.

Paul Kinney

Rima

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Sep 1, 2011, 12:23:20 PM9/1/11
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Heh... sorry I'm late on this!

www.ATLPublishing.com - click composers, then Kinney!

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Rima

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Sep 7, 2011, 2:29:36 PM9/7/11
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Of course! www.atlpublishing.com just click Composers, then Kinney, and you're there!

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