acrylic stands

[SUSAN CARSCADDEN]

I’m in the market for new music stands and I’m considering the acrylic lectern with base that Jeffers sells.

 

Has anyone used these? 

Thanks for any comments/advice you have.

 

 

 

Susan Carscadden-Mifsud
Handbell Graces
Web site:  www.handbellgraces.com

 

 

 

[jdm...@aol.com]

Susan,

 

I have these at the church were I've just started. In my view, they are OK, but not ideal.

 

First, the stands put the music way up high off the tables. It's difficult to get beginning ringers to ring high enough for the sound to really get past the music stands. I would prefer the break-back folders sitting directly on the tables. But the reality of aging eyes is that music needs to be higher and closer. That said, it is easier for the ringers to follow the conductor if their sight line is already that high.

 

The stands come in 2 pieces, the base and the shelf for the folder. The shelf has a lip on it, and one of my stands already has a busted lip.

 

and they're expensive! Both pieces add up to more than $50, I believe.

 

So if your ringers need the music up high, and you have the budget, they might be the right thing.

 

Jeffrey McIntyre, CAGO

Director of Music Ministries

Covenant Presbyterian Church/Atlanta

 

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[Heitz Handbells]

I agree with Mr. McIntyre, there are definitely pluses and minuses to the issue.  Malmark also has acrylic stands. I would check both out. Our choir uses the heavy black metal stands which are cheaper but very heavy. The good thing about them is that the lip is much shorter and angled.  I always worry that I'm going to get my music stuck on the lips when I'm ringing.

Carol

 

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Subject: Re: [HB-L] acrylic stands

Susan,

 

I have these at the church were I've just started. In my view, they are OK, but not ideal.

 

First, the stands put the music way up high off the tables. It's difficult to get beginning ringers to ring high enough for the sound to really get past the music stands. I would prefer the break-back folders sitting directly on the tables. But the reality of aging eyes is that music needs to be higher and closer. That said, it is easier for the ringers to follow the conductor if their sight line is already that high.

 

The stands come in 2 pieces, the base and the shelf for the folder. The shelf has a lip on it, and one of my stands already has a busted lip.

 

and they're expensive! Both pieces add up to more than $50, I believe.

 

So if your ringers need the music up high, and you have the budget, they might be the right thing.

 

Jeffrey McIntyre, CAGO

Director of Music Ministries

Covenant Presbyterian Church/Atlanta

 

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Subject: [HB-L] acrylic stands

I’m in the market for new music stands and I’m considering the acrylic lectern with base that Jeffers sells.

 

Has anyone used these? 

Thanks for any comments/advice you have.

 

 

 

Susan Carscadden-Mifsud
Handbell Graces
Web site:  http://www.handbellgraces.com/

 

 

 

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[Silver Woodbury]

Hi, All!

 

I never have liked the table risers, acrylic or otherwise.  They use so much table space.  Wenger makes a wonderful music stand that works really well for handbell ringers, particularly those who want/need the music closer to them.  It’s called the Gig Stand®.  Here’s what they look like:

Note they hinge at the deck and about 18 inches below the deck.  You can set this hinge at a full 90 degrees to bring the music close or at a steeper angle for the larger bass bells that need maximum real estate.  Also, there are only 3 “feet” at the base of the stands.  The 3^rd foot cantilevers to balance the stand extending forward.  This eliminates the 4^th foot that sticks out in front, causing a tripping hazard or preventing you from setting up close to modesty panels, steps or other features.

 

Also, they fold down to the size of a briefcase for easy transport and storage.  If you would like a flyer with more information, let me know.  You can also check them using this link:  http://www.wengercorp.com/stands/gig-stand.php

 

The down side is that they aren’t cheap.  However, they are very sturdy.  The community choir that I direct purchased them as did my home church.

 

Happy Ringing!

Silver

 

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[Paul Allen at James Rutter]

I have one of these gig stands.

 

The central problem with them is the wrench.  It takes an Allen wrench to tighten all three moving joints—and if you’ve worked with Allen sockets before, you know that they are one of the easiest to strip.  Once you’ve stripped it, you can neither loosen nor tighten the stand.

 

An ancillary problem is that they have a very high center of gravity.  In the picture, you’ll notice that the closest one is braced against the table.  The second one is backed away from the table.  With the added weight of the stand light, the center of gravity is even more precarious.  If they start to tip over away from the ringer, there’s no catching them.

 

I strongly urge you to buy one of them, use it for a while, and then decide if you want to invest in multiples.

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[BellB...@aol.com]

Are you sure that you want to sacrifice all of that table space? Have you thought about using the adjustable Manhasset stands that bands and orchestras use? There would be no problem fastening a stand light to them and you can get the music higher than any music riser. They give you a full 30" of table width.

 

In a message dated 11/13/2012 10:39:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, susan.ca...@sympatico.ca writes:

I’m in the market for new music stands and I’m considering the acrylic lectern with base that Jeffers sells.

 

Has anyone used these? 

Thanks for any comments/advice you have.

 

 

 

Susan Carscadden-Mifsud
Handbell Graces
Web site:  www.handbellgraces.com

 

 

 

[Pat Meinecke]

We had them at our church--agree with Jeffrey that they are high altho that gives you plenty of room to slip the unused bells in and out.

However, ours scratched quite easily and then looked awful.  Also started breaking after 4 or 5 years and we were careful with them./

St. Andrew Lutheran

Pat Meinecke

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[J.-C. Coolen]

Bells of Bowmanville bought one Gig Stand to experiment (same as Paul's suggestion).

The ringers didn't care for them--the biggest problem was that the vertical height is set by a screw-knob, and since my ringers switch assignments on every piece, they were frequently needing to adjust the height in mid-rehearsal or -performance, and found this to be a real difficulty (though that shouldn't be a big issue if your ringers don't move between positions).

We purchased Manhassets instead (c. CA$40.00 each) for the ringers, and love them. They adjust up and down very easily in mid-rehearsal; they free up all the table space (which is great when we play four+ octaves of bells and three octaves of chimes on 24' of table); and, they seem to be less of a visual barrier to the audience than table stands--somehow, they seem to recede somewhat into the background...

As the conductor, I inherited the Gig Stand, and I love it for this use...the stand area is bigger than a Manhasset, so I can spread out extra stuff at the top of the stand, and there's an indentation behind the shelf/lip, which is perfect for pencils or batons. Also, it works really well when I need to stand in the midst of pews to conduct--the angling extension puts the stand right where I need it.

J.-C. Coolen
Greater Toronto Area

At 03:29 PM 2012-11-13 -0500, BellB...@aol.com wrote:

Are you sure that you want to sacrifice all of that table space? Have you thought about using the adjustable Manhasset stands that bands and orchestras use? There would be no problem fastening a stand light to them and you can get the music higher than any music riser. They give you a full 30" of table width.

At 08:16 PM 2012-11-13 +0000, Paul Allen at James Rutter wrote:

I have one of these gig stands.
 
The central problem with them is the wrench.  It takes an Allen wrench to tighten all three moving joints­and if you’ve worked with Allen sockets before, you know that they are one of the easiest to strip.  Once you’ve stripped it, you can neither loosen nor tighten the stand.
 
An ancillary problem is that they have a very high center of gravity.  In the picture, you’ll notice that the closest one is braced against the table.  The second one is backed away from the table.  With the added weight of the stand light, the center of gravity is even more precarious.  If they start to tip over away from the ringer, there’s no catching them.
 
I strongly urge you to buy one of them, use it for a while, and then decide if you want to invest in multiples.
 
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Hi, All!
 
I never have liked the table risers, acrylic or otherwise.  They use so much table space.  Wenger makes a wonderful music stand that works really well for handbell ringers, particularly those who want/need the music closer to them.  It’s called the Gig Stand®.  Here’s what they look like:

[Claire Blackwell]

I like my stands. They are from IKEA, black, low (~4”) laptop stands. They do not hide the ringers, bells, or sound and cost $2-3 each!

 

 

Claire Blackwell

Music Advisor and Adjunct Faculty

Handbells and Mathematics

21726 Placerita Canyon Road, Santa Clarita, CA 91321

Office: 661.362.2258            | cblac...@masters.edu

Home: 661.254.1256

 

[Ruben Mendoza]

Are these the ones?

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60150176/#/60150176

Ruben

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