Double dot (..) over note?

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Kevin

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Oct 13, 2011, 4:56:01 PM10/13/11
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We ran across a marking of two dots (as in ..) over each of two half
note chords in the bass in the second to the last measure while the
all treble bells were shaking, then a regular whole note ring in last
measure for everybody. Any idea what the two dot marking means? I
don't have the name of the piece handy, sorry.

Nicholas Barnard

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Oct 13, 2011, 6:49:36 PM10/13/11
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Hrm, it isn't in the 2010 AGEHR guide.
(I looked that up on the bus! Try that while driving! Oh what did you say? Wrong email list? Oops you're right.)

Kevin,
Are you sure it's not a printing error? Otherwise the composer better 'splain themselves.

Nick Barnard
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Carol Lynn Mizell

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Oct 13, 2011, 7:26:04 PM10/13/11
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Play as quarter notes? Play as eighth notes? Some older band and orchestra music uses that -- sometimes with slashes on the stem. What piece and which measures?

Carol Lynn
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Oct 13, 2011, 7:35:09 PM10/13/11
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I've seen double dots over notes that mean play 2 notes half as long.  However sometimes this note has a slash on the stem.  A quarter would be 2 eighths.  Three dots over a quarter would make 8th note triplets, 4 would mean play 4 16ths.  6, play six notes.  This is all time and space saving for the copiest and printer.  I suppose lots of dots would be a tremolo on 1 note.  I believe that the dots and slashes mean the same thing.
 
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Lee Barrow

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Oct 13, 2011, 8:06:11 PM10/13/11
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The dots and slashes don't exactly mean the same thing. The rhythm would be determined by the slashes--one slash for eighths, two for 16th, etc. The dots then indicate staccato, and should match the rhythm indicated by the slashes. So a half note with one slash would indicate 4 eighth notes, and if staccato, should have 4 dots. 

This notation is only used to indicate eighth or shorter notes, not quarters. Do the notes in question have slashes through the stems? I would love to see a scan of the notes in question. 

Lee Barrow
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Lloyd Winfield

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Oct 13, 2011, 11:24:13 PM10/13/11
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Kevin wrote:
We ran across a marking of two dots (as in ..) over each of two half
note chords in the bass in the second to the last measure while the
all treble bells were shaking, then a regular whole note ring in last
measure for everybody. Any idea what the two dot marking means? ...

I respond:
While probably not an official handbell notation, I think the double dot
is an "umlaut" indicating that the bell must be rung with a German accent.

Cheers, 
Lloyd

Kevin

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Oct 14, 2011, 8:19:33 AM10/14/11
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The title of the piece is "Our Great Redeemer's Praise" by Kremer
Publications. Listening to it online, it sounds like a martellato.
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