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Carol Smith
Aug 3, 2025, 8:06:20 AMAug 3
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When I Googled Music Services it gave their phone # 615-371-1320.
Carol Smith
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Paul Kinney <bel...@comcast.net>: Aug 01 07:16PM -0400
I wrote about my problems working with Van Ness Press, Lifeway Worship,
and Music Services to get permission to arrange "In Remembrance of Me."
Both Silver Woodbury and Linda McKechnie replied. Thank you.
Alas, I got the impression that I hadn't defined my problem sufficiently.
I know who owns the copyright. Van Ness Press does. They turned the
administration of the copyright over to Lifeway Worship. And they use
Music Services to handle the details.
I am not (yet) trying to get my arrangement published or otherwise sell
to the public. I need to write it first. And to do that I need
permission to make an arrangement of copyrighted material.
My difficulty at the moment is that I must go through Music Services and
they appear to have automated the process, but excluded the type of
license I think I need. They do not provide a way around their automated
system.
Any ideas on what my next steps could be?
Thanks,
Paul Kinney
I had previously written:
I want to make an arrangement of "In Remembrance of Me" by Courtney and
Red for handbell quintet. I see Jason Krug published an arrangement for
full choir, 3-6 octaves, through Agape/Hope. So I know it is possible to
get permission.
The copyright is held by Van Ness Press. It says the copyright is
administered by Lifeway Worship. I contacted them and was told their
licensing is done by Music Services.
On the Music Services website their licensing FAQ has nothing on making
arrangements. It does say when including a song in the medley the lyrics
and melody cannot be changed.
I did a search for the tune on the Music Services site. It lists
available license types as Mechanical, Photocopy, Print, Videogram, TV
sync, Digital phono delivery, live performance, internet streaming, or
slide/transparency. Mechanical is for sound/video recordings. It and the
other options don't fit with making an arrangement.
The site's help is minimal and has no contact info.
I would appreciate any help in how to work my way through all this.
<silve...@cox.net>: Aug 01 08:53PM -0500
Paul, perhaps you can try contacting Jason and see how he gained permission from them. I see he has a website. Here’s a link to his contact page: https://jasonwkrug.com/contact
Good luck!
Silver
Mrs. Silver D. Woodbury
Silverbell Enterprises
10012 Carnie Circle
Yukon, OK 73099
405-519-0331
<mailto:silverbell@cox.net> silve...@cox.net or <mailto:sbesilverbell@gmail.com> sbesil...@gmail.com
Artistic Director
Oklahoma City Handbell Ensemble
<http://www.okcbells.com> www.okcbells.com
From: 'Paul Kinney' via Handbell-l <handb...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2025 6:17 PM
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Subject: [HB-L] Trying to do right by getting permission to arrange, but...
I wrote about my problems working with Van Ness Press, Lifeway Worship, and Music Services to get permission to arrange "In Remembrance of Me." Both Silver Woodbury and Linda McKechnie replied. Thank you.
Alas, I got the impression that I hadn't defined my problem sufficiently.
I know who owns the copyright. Van Ness Press does. They turned the administration of the copyright over to Lifeway Worship. And they use Music Services to handle the details.
I am not (yet) trying to get my arrangement published or otherwise sell to the public. I need to write it first. And to do that I need permission to make an arrangement of copyrighted material.
My difficulty at the moment is that I must go through Music Services and they appear to have automated the process, but excluded the type of license I think I need. They do not provide a way around their automated system.
Any ideas on what my next steps could be?
Thanks,
Paul Kinney
I had previously written:
I want to make an arrangement of "In Remembrance of Me" by Courtney and
Red for handbell quintet. I see Jason Krug published an arrangement for
full choir, 3-6 octaves, through Agape/Hope. So I know it is possible to
get permission.
The copyright is held by Van Ness Press. It says the copyright is
administered by Lifeway Worship. I contacted them and was told their
licensing is done by Music Services.
On the Music Services website their licensing FAQ has nothing on making
arrangements. It does say when including a song in the medley the lyrics
and melody cannot be changed.
I did a search for the tune on the Music Services site. It lists
available license types as Mechanical, Photocopy, Print, Videogram, TV
sync, Digital phono delivery, live performance, internet streaming, or
slide/transparency. Mechanical is for sound/video recordings. It and the
other options don't fit with making an arrangement.
The site's help is minimal and has no contact info.
I would appreciate any help in how to work my way through all this.
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Sondra Tucker <sondra...@gmail.com>: Aug 01 06:18PM -0500
Sometimes a recording gets made, and subsequently after that changes are
made in the manuscript. That’s pretty major though, No pun intended.
Sondra
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