Hamster-Playgroung error message

[John B.]

I am getting an error "{1} Script "00.00" not found!" which appears at
the start of every hourly Usenet download.

After the error is displayed Hamster appears to go through the
downloading of each specified Usenet group but when attempting to read
any new groups using Forte-Agent no new messages are found.

What is "script 00.00" and to what Hamster file does the error relate
to?

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Cheers,

John B.

[Wolfgang Jäth]

Am 23.12.2013 04:05, schrieb John B.:
>
>
> I am getting an error "{1} Script "00.00" not found!" which appears at
> the start of every hourly Usenet download.

Looks like a parameter mismatch at an AtAdd command in one of your
scirpts. Please post a log file (with at least INFO and USER activated).

> After the error is displayed Hamster appears to go through the
> downloading of each specified Usenet group but when attempting to read
> any new groups using Forte-Agent no new messages are found.

Are new ones downloaded by Hamster?

Wolfgang
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[John B.]

When HService.exe is started for the first time, each day, it
downloads new messages however after the first download it seems to
stop getting new messages. If the HService.exe is stopped and
re-started, or the computer rebooted, than it seems to work normally
for another download.


sample of log file:
-----------------------------------------
2013/12/24 07:44:01 I {6} > POST
2013/12/24 07:44:01 I {6} < 340 send article to be posted. End with
<CR-LF>.<CR-LF>
2013/12/24 07:44:01 D {6} Find POST server: rec.bicycles.tech ->
news.albasani.net/Albasani/119 (is preferred postserver of group)
2013/12/24 07:44:01 D {6} Find POST server: rec.bicycles.tech ->
news.albasani.net/Albasani/119 (is preferred postserver of group)
2013/12/24 07:44:01 I {6} < 240 article posted ok
<l2mhb9lvb4kum86u1...@4ax.com>
2013/12/24 07:49:01 I {6} > QUIT
2013/12/24 07:49:02 I {6} < 205 Closing connection.
2013/12/24 07:49:02 I {6} Client 127.0.0.1:2119 disconnected
2013/12/24 08:00:00 I {1} Scheduler starts script "00:00" (next run
at 12/24/2013 9:00:00 AM)
2013/12/24 08:00:00 ERR {1} Script "00:00" not found!
2013/12/24 08:21:18 I {8} Client 127.0.0.1:2119 connected
2013/12/24 08:21:18 D {8} IP-Access of IP 127.0.0.1 for NNTP is RW
because it is in range 127.0.0.1-127.0.0.1
2013/12/24 08:21:18 D {8}
TServerClientNNTP.CheckIPAccess(127.0.0.1:2119) NNTP -> RW
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} < 200 Hamster-NNTP, Hamster-Playground Vr.
1.25
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} > MODE READER
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} < 200 ignored
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} > AUTHINFO USER admin
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} < 381 More authentication information
required
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} > AUTHINFO PASS [...]
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} < 281 Authentication accepted
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} > POST
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} < 340 send article to be posted. End with
<CR-LF>.<CR-LF>
2013/12/24 08:21:19 D {8} Find POST server: comp.mobile.android ->
news.albasani.net/Albasani/119 (is preferred postserver of group)
2013/12/24 08:21:19 D {8} Find POST server: comp.mobile.android ->
news.albasani.net/Albasani/119 (is preferred postserver of group)
2013/12/24 08:21:19 I {8} < 240 article posted ok
<1vmhb9t0u073r5gk0...@4ax.com>
2013/12/24 08:24:13 I {8} > POST
-------------------------------------------------------
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Cheers,

John B.

[Lu Wei]

On 2013-12-24 10:14, John B. wrote:

> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 I {1} Scheduler starts script "00:00" (next run
> at 12/24/2013 9:00:00 AM)
> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 ERR {1} Script "00:00" not found!

Have you set up a schedule task which runs every hour? Check
Tasks->Setup scheduled tasks...
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Regards,
Lu Wei
PGP key ID: 0x92CCE1EA

[John B.]

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:14:19 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Further to the above, I just found an entry in Scheduler.hst that is
"00:00 02:00 23:59 1111111 60", that is, I believe, a standing
instruction listing the time period that the Server should be active
and the frequency of the downloads.
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Cheers,

John B.

[Lu Wei]

On 2013-12-24 11:54, John B. wrote:

>
> Further to the above, I just found an entry in Scheduler.hst that is
> "00:00 02:00 23:59 1111111 60", that is, I believe, a standing
> instruction listing the time period that the Server should be active
> and the frequency of the downloads.
>

That is the cause. The format should be like:
<taskname> 00:00 23:59 1111111 180
Since you are unlikely to setup a task named "00:00", that entry in
scheduler.hst must be a mistake. You can delete it.

[John B.]

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:31:35 +0800, Lu Wei <luwe...@address.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2013-12-24 10:14, John B. wrote:
>
>> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 I {1} Scheduler starts script "00:00" (next run
>> at 12/24/2013 9:00:00 AM)
>> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 ERR {1} Script "00:00" not found!
>
>Have you set up a schedule task which runs every hour? Check
>Tasks->Setup scheduled tasks...

Yes (I mentioned it in a follow-up to my first post)

It is: "00:00 02:00 23:59 1111111 60"

which certainly seems to match the "00.00" in the missing script
error, but I don't understand the "not found" comment.
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Cheers,

John B.

[Wolfgang Jäth]

Am 24.12.2013 12:10, schrieb John B.:
>
>>> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 I {1} Scheduler starts script "00:00" (next run
>>> at 12/24/2013 9:00:00 AM)
>>> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 ERR {1} Script "00:00" not found!
>>
>>Have you set up a schedule task which runs every hour? Check
>>Tasks->Setup scheduled tasks...
>
> Yes (I mentioned it in a follow-up to my first post)
>
> It is: "00:00 02:00 23:59 1111111 60"
>
> which certainly seems to match the "00.00" in the missing script
> error, but I don't understand the "not found" comment.

At the first position of each entry, Hamster expects the name of a task
file (*.hut). This entry tells him, he shall look for a file called "00:00".

Wolfgang
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[John B.]

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:31:35 +0800, Lu Wei <luwe...@address.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2013-12-24 10:14, John B. wrote:
>
>> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 I {1} Scheduler starts script "00:00" (next run
>> at 12/24/2013 9:00:00 AM)
>> 2013/12/24 08:00:00 ERR {1} Script "00:00" not found!
>
>Have you set up a schedule task which runs every hour? Check
>Tasks->Setup scheduled tasks...

Yes I did, using HControl.exe and the result was the entry in
Scheduler.hst that I mentioned.

I just, a few minutes ago, booted the computer and HService.exe ran
for the first time today. The log shows no errors. However, if things
go as they have been, the second run of the day will result in the
error message that "missing 00.00". I'll make a follow-up to this
message after the second hurly run.


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Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

Is this function ignored when HService.exe starts? I ask as with the
present configuration as soon as I start HService it:
Starts NNTP Server
Starts RECO Served
(user task get news) Start
(newsjob news.albasani.net/albasani/119) Start
(newsjob news.albasani.net/albasani/119) End
(user task get news) End
script "00.00" not found!

I assume that this means that HService will always get the news groups
when it starts but requires the entry in Scheduler.hst to repeat the
act.

As there is a "Get News.hut" which has an entry
"NEWS "news.albasani.net/Albasani/119,119"

Do I change the "00.00" to "Get News.hut"? Or to "NEWS"?

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Cheers,

John B.

[Lu Wei]

On 2013-12-25 19:12, John B. wrote:

> I assume that this means that HService will always get the news groups
> when it starts but requires the entry in Scheduler.hst to repeat the
> act.
>

Whether Hservice will always get the news when starts I don't know, but
scheduled task is surely needed to setup if you want it to retrieve
articles automatically.

> As there is a "Get News.hut" which has an entry
> "NEWS "news.albasani.net/Albasani/119,119"
>
> Do I change the "00.00" to "Get News.hut"? Or to "NEWS"?
>

Change the "00.00" to "Get News.hut" will do, I think, and you'd better
do it through Hcontrol's menu Tasks->Setup scheduled tasks... , in case
you make any error editing the file.

[John B.]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:31:46 +0800, Lu Wei <luwe...@address.invalid>
wrote:

The "Get News.hut" didn't work and the error then was "Get not found"
However, I have tried copying the "Get News.hud" to GetNews.hud" and
am trying that at the moment.

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Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:48:29 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Using a copy of Get News.hud that I renamed "GetNews" didn't work
either and I suspect that I may need to write the actual get the news
script.

But the application does work flawlessly when it first starts so it
still does the job :-)
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Cheers,

John B.

[Lu Wei]

On 2013-12-27 9:13, John B. wrote:

>>> Change the "00.00" to "Get News.hut" will do, I think, and you'd better
>>> do it through Hcontrol's menu Tasks->Setup scheduled tasks... , in case
>>> you make any error editing the file.
>>
>> The "Get News.hut" didn't work and the error then was "Get not found"
>> However, I have tried copying the "Get News.hud" to GetNews.hud" and
>> am trying that at the moment.
>
> Using a copy of Get News.hud that I renamed "GetNews" didn't work
> either and I suspect that I may need to write the actual get the news
> script.
>
> But the application does work flawlessly when it first starts so it
> still does the job :-)
>

Maybe file name containing space should be surrounded by ""; anyway, as
I said you'd better do it through Hcontrol's menu "Tasks->Setup
scheduled tasks". And before that, you should setup a user task through
menu "Tasks->Setup user tasks", because only user task or script can be
added to scheduled task.

As a mature program you should expect that any normal operation could be
done through GUI.

[John B.]

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:11:29 +0800, Lu Wei <luwe...@address.invalid>
wrote:

The "fix" was to copy the "Get News.hut" file to a "getnews.hut" file
and use that file name in the Scheduler.hst file. It works splendidly
now.

I'm not so sure about the "mature program you should expect that any
normal operation could be done through GUI" statement though as Linux
certainly must be considered mature, if not aged, being based on a
system that was designed in 1969 and still using config files that are
edited manually :-)
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Cheers,

John B.

[Wolfgang Jäth]

Yes; that's one of the enduring teething troubles of Linux and other
unix based systems (the german term is 'Kinderkrankheit', which means as
well 'childrens disease', and thereby gives a much better pun to the
expression 'mature' ;-) ).

Wolfgang
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[John B.]

I can't argue except to say that the first computer I ever saw used a
card reader to receive instructions so the addition of a terminal to
communicate with the machine was a startling innovation. Using a
terminal seems "natural" to me :-)

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Cheers,

John B.

[Wolfgang Jäth]

I know them well, too.

> so the addition of a terminal to
> communicate with the machine was a startling innovation.

Yes; it *was*; back then. Back then, bow and arrow was a huge
improvement compared to e. g. stone clubs; do you think /today/ someone
still goes to war with bow and arrow? ;-)

> Using a
> terminal seems "natural" to me :-)

Well, I'm afraid I have to inform you about there was a lot of progress
between the 1970'ies and today. <big grin>

Wolfgang
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[John B.]

I'm not so sure that I agree. Certainly a lot of simple click, click,
opening of applications but if one wishes to, oh say move all of the
.txt files to a new directory called .textMesg which is in the
/imadethismyself directory rather then in the /home/<user> directory
it is simpler from the command line.
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Cheers,

John B.

[Wolfgang Jäth]

At least, with click, cklick you cant make much smelling pistakes ... <g>

But yes, there /is/ (and will ever be) a amall amount of operations
which are easier to perform by a command line or the like.

Wolfgang
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[John B.]

I also understand that most large database servers are managed without
resorting to a GUI desktop :-)
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Cheers,

John B.

[Lu Wei]

On 2014-1-1 18:50, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 08:52:31 +0100, Wolfgang J�th
> <jawo.ml...@arcor.de> wrote:

> ...

Seems I have triggered a subject prone to argument, which is normal as a
question without absolute answer. I think it be better to phrase it
"intuitive" than "mature".

As to me, in fact I would rather do the same thing as you do; but I was
not sure I am talking to an advanced user! :)

[John B.]

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:10:17 +0800, Lu Wei <luwe...@address.invalid>
wrote:

Advanced is really a relative term. I am certainly more advanced then
my 11 year old granddaughter but equally rather untutored compared to
some I have met :-)
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Cheers,

John B.