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All,
Here are my WSPR spot observations from 80- to 10-meters on 20231231, with solar flare time approximately 21:50Z
80-meters was affected from 21:46 to 21:58 (blackout - no spots recorded).

40 meters was affected at distances from 669 [km] to 1590 [km] during the 21:56 cycle.
There is also an unrelated deep fade at around 16:30.

20-meters was affected at distances from 2000 [km] to 3500 [km] for cycles at 20:48, 20:58 and 22:08.
There is also an unrelated deep fade at around 16:00 and an unrelated shallow fade around 18:38.

15-meters was affected at distances from 3144 [km] to 3489 [km] for the cycle at 21:50.

10-meters was not affected.

73,
Jim KX4TD
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Further to the effects of the flare:
Looking at the AUSTIN ionosonde for 20231231: Looking at the charts, in both the fo and hmE traces, readings were lost for twenty minutes starting at at time 2200Z and ending at time 2220Z. The most common reason for this is absorption in the D-region decreasing the signal to noise.


Conclusion:
The solar flare caused increased absorption in the D-region. This increased absorption led to a blackout on 80 meters and lesser degradation of HF propagation on the higher frequency bands.
The Austin ionosonde readings followed the same pattern with greatest effect on the E-layer, and little to no effect on the F-layers.
This pattern is consistent with the “absorption is proportional to the wavelength squared” rule of thumb.
73,
Jim KX4TD



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Hi Phil and All,
I’ve been reading the postings by the HamSCI group about this New Year Eve flare event with interest. Please know that the same event has also generated a lot of interest among the Radio JOVE group (cc’d). When I first saw the question raised about the possibility of solar radio bursts occurring during this flare/SID interval, I had hoped that someone from Radio JOVE would respond. Hopefully without stealing someone’s thunder, with your latest message I’d like to at least point out that several Radio JOVE observers did report the detection of small groups of radio bursts (15-30 MHz) during the interval with the stronger bursts observed at 21:47:20 UT. This might be a good opportunity for HamSCI and Radio JOVE to collaborate.
Shing
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Hi Gwyn and Darrel,
(Apologies to others for rewinding the thread a bit.). Gwyn mentioned: "At that site, 12 and 10 m are limited by local noise, so absorption not seen, but those two bands show what may be a solar noise burst."
My distinguished colleague Alan EE Rogers, whom I'm sure Darrel knows very well, operates the precisely calibrated EDGES system in the quiet western Australia desert. EDGES has measured a fundamental high-redshift cosmological signature of the early universe in an observational tour de force:
The system, EDGES-3, makes absolutely calibrated noise temperature measurements, averaged over the sky, in the bands just below commercial FM. Antenna chromaticity is precisely accounted for and the frequency response is calibrated at the >1 part in 10,000 or better level. The system actually continuously samples about 40 MHz to over 120 MHz, but calibration is not correct below 50 MHz and above the FM band (or at least Alan cautions).
So I asked Alan and sure enough, on 31 December 2023, the system caught a spectacular signature of the radio burst associated with the X5 solar flare arrival. This plot is the entire UT day in the main EDGES band from a bit below 50 MHz to 80 MHz:

X axis is UTC, and Y axis is frequency in MHz. Color represents absolute noise temperature in Kelvin. The top line plot is average temperature across frequency in K. The impulsive flare signature is quite obvious if you expand the plot. For orientation, local time in western Australia is UTC + 8 so sunset occurs about 08 UTC and sunrise time is evident. You can also nicely see some qualitative response below 50 MHz which is sporadic E at or after sunset reflecting low VHF transmissions into the antenna.
Alan kindly zoomed in to the time of the flare and produced a wider < 50 to 120 MHz coverage:

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Hi Phil,
Since you asked, I’ve taken the liberty of compiling some Radio JOVE and HamSCI data for comparison:

It would be good if there are more HamSCI data from distributed stations, but they would also need to be cross-calibrated so that their absorption spectra can be quantitatively compared.
Thouhgts/comments?
Shing
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Hi Gwyn,
Thanks much for sending the data from various stations. There‘s much for me to learn about how to understand/interpret these data. Do you also have the location info (long & lat) for the transmitter(s) and various receiving stations?
Thanks,
Shing
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Hi Phil, Shing
I'm so pleased to see the 31 Dec 2023 solar noise burst in the EDGES-3 data. It spurred me to look at data at four sites, KPH, KFS as well as KA7OEI-1 and VK7JJ, Tasmania, WsprDaemon's closest station to the EDGES-3 site in Western Australia.
Graphs at 28.125 MHz, 24.925 MHz and 21.097 MHz and commentary are shown in an attachment.
While accepting the wild assumptions I would appreciate access to the EDGES-3 numerical data for this period so that I can attempt a system-level calibration for KPH, KFS and KA7OEI-1 as in the last point on my graphic. I attach an Excel file for the data I've
used for these plots, as you may find it useful Shing. Note that all my times are the start times of 110 second averaging intervals.
Cross-calibration has proven difficult, but at least with KPH, KFS and KA7OEI-1 we have the combination of excellent low noise sites, highly committed individuals and the same type of antenna.
It would also be good to look out for SRBs this summer from the Devon Island EDGES installation to repeat the 'calibration'. The 17 August 2022 SRB observed at Devon Island (EDGES
MEMO #397) was observed as a 2 dB rise in noise level at KPH at 14:42 UTC on 28.125 MHz.
At the risk of overload, I have produced crude maps of peak excess absorption at 7.04 MHz and 14.097 MHz from the signal level changes of WSPR spots at known low local noise receivers. All paths were one-hop, checked by looking at frequency spread. The necessity
for that frequency spread check is nicely illustrated at 10.14 MHz as an NVIS path reverted to non-ionospheric resulting in a flat-bottomed 40 dB dip.
73
Gwyn G3ZIL


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Thanks! I’ll replace the old one.
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Hi Jonathan,
Thank you for your message. Tom Ashcraft is also one of our avid and productive Radio JOVE observers. Indeed, he often posts his high-quality observations to the Radio JOVE group.
Cheers,
Shing
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