Hello everyone, this is my first question to the group.

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Tekknowology

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Mar 29, 2026, 5:29:26 PM (4 days ago) Mar 29
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With the help of AI, just thought I would put that out there first.  I have been interested in the PyLap software.  I have it working and With the help of AI I have been trying to bring the datasets closer to real time.  I think I can pull data on a regular basis and derive the data that it uses.  It is a little hard to use, just say'n.  So I created a web service to act as a front end to my current instance.  Now this seems to be going in a direction that we could put this on a server somewhere, but I've never done that.  I am trying to take the WSPR data and PSK reports to see if I can make the ray traces for a given call sign for a given time frame and extrapolate that with simulated data.  Has anyone had any luck translating this data?  My goal is to maybe make this available to the ham community to be able to have ray traces for say a POTA activation along side your map of QSOs.  This is very alpha but it sort of works.   Here is current iteration of what I am working on.  Screenshot 2026-03-29 at 5.25.58 PM.png
Not sure if this is properly using the data for what I want either.  Feedback is encouraged.  

Chris Bricker [W9TEK]

Greg Beam

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Mar 29, 2026, 5:58:33 PM (4 days ago) Mar 29
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Great project — you're tackling exactly the right problem. Making ray tracing accessible to everyday operators (especially POTA / SOTA / IOTA activators) would be a real contribution to the community.
                                                                                                                                                                                       
A few things that might help from our end:

Data feeds:
We've built a set of open-source MCP servers (qso-graph.io) that provide exactly the data you're pulling manually — solar indices (SFI, Kp, Bz) updated every 15 minutes, WSPR beacon data, and POTA park/spot information. They're pip-installable and work with Claude, ChatGPT, Copilot, or any MCP client. If you're using AI to help with development, these tools let the AI query propagation data directly.

Pre-built datasets:
We publish propagation signature datasets on SourceForge (sourceforge.net/projects/ionis-ai/) — 175M+ aggregated signatures from WSPR, RBN, PSK Reporter, and contest logs, with solar conditions joined. SQLite format, ready to use. These might save you the ETL work of building your own pipeline from raw spots.

IRI ionospheric data:
PHaRLAP needs ionospheric electron density profiles. We maintain a 164M-row IRI lookup table that maps (lat, lon, hour, month, SFI) to ionospheric parameters. Happy to share the methodology if that's useful for your ray trace inputs.

Web hosting:
For getting your web service public, Vercel (vercel.com) does free static site hosting with auto-deploy from GitHub. We just deployed a DXpedition propagation analysis demo this way — Next.js frontend, static data files, zero server cost. If your PyLap frontend is web-based, same approach would work. ( https://dxpedition-demo.vercel.app/predictions )

POTA integration:
Our pota-mcp server provides live activator spots, park info, and scheduled activations via API. Could feed directly into your ray trace visualization — show the activator's park location, then overlay the predicted ray paths.

We're also working on comparing ML-based propagation predictions against VOACAP and real observations. Our first analysis (3Y0K Bouvet Island) just went live at (https://dxpedition-demo.vercel.app/predictions) if you want to see propagation data presented interactively.

Would be glad to collaborate or share data. The more people working on accessible propagation tools, the better.
 
73, Greg, KI7MT

Kristina Collins

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Mar 29, 2026, 6:04:27 PM (4 days ago) Mar 29
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Skimming this thread only briefly, but a quick note: For site hosting, this might go very well on a github.io page. Looks intriguing!


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Tekknowology

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Mar 29, 2026, 7:30:40 PM (4 days ago) Mar 29
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YES!  I want all the data.  I am building this so that it intelligently pulls data based on update schedules.  I am trying to be a good steward of the data and not hammer people's servers.  

You should see my satellite rotor I'm building.  I think there is the potential for real time ionosphere data.  All I gotta say is most rotors are AzEl.  I am adding polarization.  There is alot of stuff I am building into that.  Stay tuned.  Reach out if anyone wants to talk about either of these projects of mine.  
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