Next Release: 1.5.1

[Waldemar Bautista]

As discussed previously, 1.5.1 will be our last 1.x.x release. I will
do the release on Monday, February 28. If there are still some things
you want to include, please do so before the 28th.

1.5.1 changelog so far:
- Minor code cleanup
- Minor UI enhancements
- Session, by default, is now saved in the DB
- Upgraded to CodeIgniter 1.7.3
- Upgraded to jQuery 1.4.4
- Upgraded other JavaScript libraries

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Waldemar Amado Bautista

[Waldemar Bautista]

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Darwin Bautista <dar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Option and Random_Order models, along with their corresponding DB tables
> are no longer needed, right?
> I'm thinking of removing them.

Yes, I think they are not needed anymore. You can remove them.

> Also, since the session data is stored in the DB by default, I think we can
> easily bring back the "random order" feature if there is still demand for
> it.

Yes but as asked by someone when this feature has been discussed, how
random is random? Haha.

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[Darwin Bautista]

The Option and Random_Order models, along with their corresponding DB tables are no longer needed, right?

I'm thinking of removing them.

Also, since the session data is stored in the DB by default, I think we can easily bring back the "random order" feature if there is still demand for it.

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[Waldemar Bautista]

Abstain alert should be added. But I think a simpler wording of the
message should be used.

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[JM C. Bitanga]

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Waldemar Bautista <waldemar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Abstain alert should be added.  But I think a simpler wording of the
message should be used.

Yes, I agree.  I find the current alert message to be too time-consuming for the voter to read.

We need to KISS. 

XD

[Waldemar Bautista]

Suggested message: "By selecting abstain, you are not voting for any
candidate in this position. If that is not the case, then do not
select abstain."

Comments?

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[JM C. Bitanga]

Current ABSTAIN message for reference:

"You are abstaining for this POSITION, thus any votes for this position will not be considered. If you are voting for less than the required number for this position, that is perfectly fine and you need not abstain."

I think the current ABSTAIN message was placed due to problems encountered for positions with multiple candidate selections.  Is it possible to make the message appear only for positions with multiple candidate selections?

I was thinking if there is really a need for an ABSTAIN message as the problem raised by the current message can simply be solved by a good voter education campaign.

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[Carlo Santos]

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:41 PM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Current ABSTAIN message for reference:

"You are abstaining for this POSITION, thus any votes for this position will not be considered. If you are voting for less than the required number for this position, that is perfectly fine and you need not abstain."

I think the current ABSTAIN message was placed due to problems encountered for positions with multiple candidate selections.  Is it possible to make the message appear only for positions with multiple candidate selections?

I was thinking if there is really a need for an ABSTAIN message as the problem raised by the current message can simply be solved by a good voter education campaign.

Then again, we can't really assume that the "good" voter education campaign can reach everyone. I think the shorter version of the abstain message is almost as complete as the previous one.

 

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Waldemar Bautista <waldemar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Suggested message: "By selecting abstain, you are not voting for any
candidate in this position. If that is not the case, then do not
select abstain."

Comments?

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[JM C. Bitanga]

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Carlo Santos <moonse...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you are voting for less than the required number for this position, that is perfectly fine and you need not abstain."

I think this statement is the original issue for the ABSTAIN warning message -- this is what I'm trying to say earlier. ;-)

 

I think the current ABSTAIN message was placed due to problems encountered for positions with multiple candidate selections.  Is it possible to make the message appear only for positions with multiple candidate selections?

I was thinking if there is really a need for an ABSTAIN message as the problem raised by the current message can simply be solved by a good voter education campaign.

Then again, we can't really assume that the "good" voter education campaign can reach everyone.

Is it really that hard to understand the concept of ABSTAIN?

Reading and clicking on the pop-up alert message can be annoying and time-consuming.  I think it is the voters' responsibility to know how to vote correctly.  Producing an official Halalan Voters' guide may help achieve this.

Actually, I would like to suggest that we (UnPLUG) make something like this: http://usg.princeton.edu/officers/elections-center/guide-to-helios.html

[Waldemar Bautista]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:37 AM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it really that hard to understand the concept of ABSTAIN?

Actually, yes. Based on the reactions of some voters from UPD Halalan 2010.

> Reading and clicking on the pop-up alert message can be annoying and
> time-consuming.  I think it is the voters' responsibility to know how to
> vote correctly.  Producing an official Halalan Voters' guide may help
> achieve this.

There is a FAQ at
http://updhalalan.uplug.org/frequently-asked-questions/. There is
also one last year but people kept bringing up the abstain issue while
I haven't heard any complaint this year. Maybe the alert helps?

> Actually, I would like to suggest that we (UnPLUG) make something like
> this: http://usg.princeton.edu/officers/elections-center/guide-to-helios.html

It's 404 and I assume it's a guide. There is a guide to using Halalan
at http://code.google.com/p/halalan/wiki/HowToUse but it's just
waiting for a volunteer to update it.

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[JM C. Bitanga]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Waldemar Bautista <waldemar...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:37 AM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it really that hard to understand the concept of ABSTAIN?

Actually, yes.  Based on the reactions of some voters from UPD Halalan 2010.

Ah... if that's the case, perhaps in a future release, we should remove the ABSTAIN option and replace it with a hidden auto-abstain feature for positions where no candidate(s) is/are selected?

 

> Reading and clicking on the pop-up alert message can be annoying and
> time-consuming.  I think it is the voters' responsibility to know how to
> vote correctly.  Producing an official Halalan Voters' guide may help
> achieve this.

There is a FAQ at
http://updhalalan.uplug.org/frequently-asked-questions/.  There is
also one last year but people kept bringing up the abstain issue while
I haven't heard any complaint this year.  Maybe the alert helps?

> Actually, I would like to suggest that we (UnPLUG) make something like
> this: http://usg.princeton.edu/officers/elections-center/guide-to-helios.html

It's 404 and I assume it's a guide.  

It seems that they have updated the links (both links point to same thing):

• http://usg.princeton.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=230:guide-to-helios&catid=78:elections&Itemid=115
• http://usg.princeton.edu/usg-senate/elections-center/guide-to-helios.html

[Waldemar Bautista]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:08 AM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah... if that's the case, perhaps in a future release, we should remove the
> ABSTAIN option and replace it with a hidden auto-abstain feature for
> positions where no candidate(s) is/are selected?

I believe voters should still declare if they want to abstain. The
system should not do it for them.

> It seems that they have updated the links (both links point to same thing):
>
> http://usg.princeton.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=230:guide-to-helios&catid=78:elections&Itemid=115
> http://usg.princeton.edu/usg-senate/elections-center/guide-to-helios.html

Okay. Thanks. Will let UnPLUG know of this.

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[Rystraum Gamonez]

How about additional visual cues in abstaining, as well as the pop-up message?
Something like, if they click on abstain, the message pops up and then if they go
ahead and abstain, all the other candidates in that position disappears. At least,
if they don't read the pop-up, there is a visual cue on what abstaining actually does.
If they unclick abstain, then all the other candidates gets displayed again.

Of course, this would be a Javascript implementation so non-javascript users would
not see this feature.

Rystraum F. Gamonez

Waldemar Amado Bautista

[JM C. Bitanga]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Waldemar Bautista <waldemar...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:08 AM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah... if that's the case, perhaps in a future release, we should remove the
> ABSTAIN option and replace it with a hidden auto-abstain feature for
> positions where no candidate(s) is/are selected?

I believe voters should still declare if they want to abstain.  The
system should not do it for them.

Ok, let's not label it "auto-abstain" but allow the "No candidates selected" be submitted as a ballot for confirmation.  Is that ok or is it difficult to implement?

[Waldemar Bautista]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Rystraum Gamonez
<ryst...@rystraum.com> wrote:
> How about additional visual cues in abstaining, as well as the pop-up
> message?
> Something like, if they click on abstain, the message pops up and then if
> they go
> ahead and abstain, all the other candidates in that position disappears. At
> least,
> if they don't read the pop-up, there is a visual cue on what abstaining
> actually does.
> If they unclick abstain, then all the other candidates gets displayed again.

As of now, the checkboxes disappear if you clicked abstain. I think
that's enough to notify the voters of what they have done.
Disappearing candidates may distort the ballot, I think.

> Of course, this would be a Javascript implementation so non-javascript users
> would
> not see this feature.

Halalan requires JavaScript. Hehe. But nothing bad will happen if it
is disabled.

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[Waldemar Bautista]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, let's not label it "auto-abstain" but allow the "No candidates selected"
> be submitted as a ballot for confirmation.  Is that ok or is it difficult to
> implement?

That's not difficult to implement but the thing is, the voter may just
have forgotten to select a candidate and not necessarily going for
abstain. Another thing is there is an abstain option in the manual
ballot.

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[JM C. Bitanga]

Ok. last one :-)

Is it possible to make the ABSTAIN alert message show only once i.e. it won't appear again the next time ABSTAIN is selected?

[Waldemar Bautista]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:37 AM, JM C. Bitanga <jmcbi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to make the ABSTAIN alert message show only once i.e. it
> won't appear again the next time ABSTAIN is selected?

Yes, it's possible. This is a good compromise. I'm gonna try to
implement this.

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[Darwin Bautista]

We can implement it by using a cookie (via jQuery.cookie), I think.

[Waldemar Bautista]

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Darwin Bautista <dar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We can implement it by using a cookie (via jQuery.cookie), I think.

Yup, I used that. Changes are at
http://code.google.com/p/halalan/source/detail?r=dae1ac64ec32c78e17eee0b01ed2e5746cfff95c.

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[Carlo Santos]

Hi,

I know it's already too late for 1.5.1 but maybe for future releases, a voter search can be added. At the very least even just a simple one. Thanks.

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[Waldemar Bautista]

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Carlo Santos <moonse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know it's already too late for 1.5.1 but maybe for future releases, a
> voter search can be added. At the very least even just a simple one. Thanks.

Thanks for mentioning that. I included it in the goals [1] for Halalan 2.0.0.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/halalan/wiki/Halalan2Goals

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[Carlo Santos]

Also, maybe the alert message can be limited to show only when the position allows multiple candidates to be voted.

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