P.J - Sri Lankan visa cancalation

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Ameer Maharoof

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Azward Sulaiman

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Nov 7, 2015, 12:33:03 PM11/7/15
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IF  PJ coming  can cause division...what Azath Sally did is right....In another note..Azath Sally is the person who spread rumours about SALAFI/ WAHABI extremism to BBS Gnanasara.

....yes he voiced for the community during Althgama riots...CONFUSED where do you draw the line...one side someone tries to protect the community on another side creating a wedge in the community????...May Allah guide us all.

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Abdeen

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Nov 9, 2015, 7:09:46 AM11/9/15
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p.j. is an  erudite islamic lecturer!

Azath Sally and his progenies probably don’t believe in Huq. ا

Valuable knowledge has been deprived!

It is said that the Allegations against him is unfounded.

Satan is gaining all the way.?

So rush not into conclusions, think well before such attacks.

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Abdeen

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Nov 11, 2015, 7:37:37 AM11/11/15
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Assalamualaikum brother,

You seem to relish at this so much, you have praised Allah swt. for this.!

Are you sure what you are doing is correct and just.? Or led astray or for popularity.

Was he a real danger to the community,

It is said that some years back Hon. Alavi Moulana had deported him.!!

What is the truth about what he is supposed to have uttered against anyone.

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Azward Sulaiman

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Nov 11, 2015, 10:37:05 AM11/11/15
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To my understanding ...PJ is not preaching anything against the Aqeedah and he openly preaches against grave worship..when most mowlavis in SL  do not promote grave worship BUT do not preach openly  probably to maintain harmony in our turbulent enviornment.

People who promote grave worship in SL saw this as a threat for their survival and our own muslims started to spread rumours of....extremism spreading in SL.....branding everyone who opposed grave worship  like  Salafis / wahabi/ PJ etc..... among the buddhist extremist.

Gnanasara himself said this in an open stage whilst ago during the peak of disturbances, stating he has been informed about muslim extremism  in SL by muslim friends.

Allah knows best...May Allah guide us all towards the  right path  and unite us purely for his sake.

Azward Sulaiman

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Nov 11, 2015, 2:17:09 PM11/11/15
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Jazakhallah khair for the enlightenment on PJ which many of us did not know.

On the same note we have so many enemies within us...this is one refuting the sahee haddes and then we have another force in SL ..muslim grave worshippers who would go to the buddhist extreme and spread rumours of.... Extremism within SL...as Salafis/ Wahabies etcetc

 Gnanasara himself said this in an open stage whilst ago during the peak of disturbances, stating he has been informed about muslim extremism  in SL by muslim friends.

Allah save us...wher are we heading???...do you call it the sign of the hour or  something has happened to the muslims across the world????


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Deviations and words of Kufr of P Jainul Abideen (PJ), Tamilnadu, India

by AbdurRahman.org

IMPORTANT VIEW OF PJ & TNTJ WHICH DIFFER FROM AHLUS SUNNAH

1. P. Zainul Abideen (P.J) says that there are Mistakes in the Qur’an. And according to him, the Qur’an is preserved in the recitation only not in written form. For all this 1400 years, muslims have been using the written Quran with spelling and gramatical mistakes, though the recitation is correct and preserved.

2. P. Zainul Abideen (P.J) rejects 50 ahaadeeth from Saheehul Bukhari and Saheeh Muslim, saying that it contradicts the Quran. Later he rejected many saheeh hadeeth saying that it contradicts with sound logic and nature.

3. P. Zainul Abideen (P.J) says that only once Zakat given in a life time on a particular wealth is sufficient; and that one need not give Zakaath on it again every year.

4. P. Zainul Abideen (P.J) puts forward his view ahead of the understanding of the Sahaabaa, and thereby contradicts the methodology of the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah. Also he condemns and defames the sahabah. Eg: He said about Umar (rali) that Umar (rali) had got "Confusion in belief" when he heard that the Prophet(S) died. He also had said that Amr bin Al Aas was "Criminal minded". When people made this an issue and condemned him, he still said, " If someone does the same act of Amr bin Al Ass, we will surely say he is Criminal minded. So what is wong in What I said?""
He puts forward the mistakes of Sahabah and claims that we can understand Quran and Sunnah, better than the sahabah. He says that the Salafees are doing taqleed of sahabah.

5. P. Zainul Abideen (P.J) denies Black Magic – Sihar, even if there are ahaadeeth found in Saheeh Bukhari and other books of hadeeth. He says that Sihr in Quran means "Trickery".  He challenges those who believe in Sihr ,to make Sihr upon him and prove that Sihr really exists.

6. He denies that Jinn can enter human beings. He rejects the hadeeth that support this view and makes taweel of Quran verses to suit his thoughts.

7. He recently, from 2010, suddenly said that he and his supporters discussed and came to a decision that "Evil Eye" is a superstition and belief in it is Shirk and Whoever believes EVil eye even after his explanation, are mushriks.

8. He claims recently that Belief in Sihr , is Shirk. And whoever believes that Sihr is more than trickery, even after getting his explanations, then he is a mushrik, and should not be prayed behind and should not be married.

9. He claims that Even if Bukhari, Muslim Imams believed in Sihr, they cannot be judged mushriks, as they did not get the explanation of PJ, as how it becomes shirk. If they had got his explanations and still belived in Sihr , then they would be mushriks also.

10. He made a translation of Quran and translated the verse "sihr" to "trickery" and fools around the common people who do not know arabic.

There are many more blunders of PJ, but I have just given the most deviated things.

Around 100,000 people of Tamilnadu, India, follow him as a great imam and think that His explanations are correct .

Note : In the early life of PJ, he studied islam in a deobandi school and then became a murtad denying the existance of Allah. Then later he accepted islam and started first preaching against Shirk and Bidah. Then he started all these above devient things.

The following is a letter made long ago from Tamil students of knowledge to the Mufti Aal Shiekh. Recently he has becomes more devient than the points mentioned in this letter.Mufti Aal Sheikh invited him to saudi. But he denyed coming to Saudi saying that he has some work to do. He claims to his people that Mufti actually called him as a cheif guest.

PDF - Letter made long ago from Tamil students of knowledge to the Mufti Aal Shiekh regPJ Jainul Abideen

Post Courtesy: Masoud bin Ahmed/Rajeef Musthafa

URL: http://wp.me/p1Vkb3-rg

Abdeen

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Nov 12, 2015, 12:37:21 AM11/12/15
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Assalamualaikum,

In the past, Prophets and many scholars were disbelieved,tortured.humiliated and even murdered arising out of many such disputes, but Islam has been well established and growing in strength   day  by day.

However, arising out of this, arose many sects  (now more than 73) and they are well established in Sri Lanka. Including  the Kadiyanis of  Mirza Gulam Ahamed who was sponsored by the Jews, so with many other sects. Most popular among them are the Tabligue Jamaat  of Ilyas  of India  which has gained a firm foothold even in the  Jemiyathul Ulama, Jamaathay  Islam etc. They are all surviving today and seem to be very prosperous; without any opposition!

In the case of P.J. who is very well versed in Tawheed and gifted talented speaker (Allah’s Gift) has come to a stage where he is explaining different views on certain Ahadith (Buhary and Muslim etc) but he has not embarked on any Shirk like the grave worshippers in Sri Lanka. If he has erred he would be pardoned but not so with the grave worshippers.

Vital point is – why is he invited to this country at this stage.  From my understanding, it is in connection with a publication of the QURAN in Sinhalese. So why ban him from this country ???

Go to the internet and type  P.J. Jainul Abideen and get all the informations about him.

P.J is one of the top most Islamic scholars of this era. ... P. Jainul Abideen is an Islamic scholar of highest eminence and a very powerful orator in Tamil. 

See: Attachment on tawheed.

Stiff opposition to TN muslim preacher Jainul Abideen's visit to Lanka

2015-11-08 14:48:50

     

http://www.dailymirror.lk/media/images/hwwizvj9.jpgThe Sri Lankan government is likely to deny entry to Moulvi P Jainul Abideen, better known as PJ, the founder and star speaker of the fundamentalist Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath (TNTJ).

A powerful section of Lankan Muslims who fear that PJ’s presence in the island will disturb intra-Muslim and inter-religious harmony are putting pressure on the government to cancel his visa. Earlier in 2005, PJ was deported on the same grounds.

PJ had been invited by the Sri Lanka Thawheed Jamaat (SLTJ) for the release of the Sinhala translation of the Koran on November 8.

The All Ceylon Jamiyyathul Ulama (ACJU) issued a statement appealing to the SLTJ not to send PJ in the interest of peace and communal harmony. Some went to the court alleging that the Sinhala translation has grievous flaws and sought an injunction. Express learns that the Defence Secretary has advised the immigration authorities to review his case in the light of the objections.

PJ is not liked by sections of Lankan Muslims because he is campaigning against certain popular practices which he considers un-Islamic.

For example he is against worship of graves of saints (dargas). He expresses sharp views against Muslim sects like the Ahmadiyas and Shias.

His opponents allege that the Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath  and Sri Lanka Thawheed Jamaat  have accepted crores of rupees from Saudi Arabia for spreading Wahabi Islam. Others accuse him of criticising nearly a hundred Hadiths (sayings of Prophet Mohammad).  

But the Sri Lanka Thawheed Jamaat  General Secretary R Abdur Razik says that PJ, Tamil Nadu Thowheed Jamath  and SLTJ are only promoting true Islam, unadulterated by non-Islamic influences.

Razik has challenged the All Ceylon Jamayyathul Ulama to an open debate on this. He asks why the ACJU has never protested against the arrival of non-Muslim preachers or preachers from various Muslim sects like the Ahmadiyas, Bohras and Shias. Why target only PJ? And there are also Muslims who say that as Lanka is a democracy with freedom of expression, PJ should not be barred.

It is not clear as to which view has majority support among Lankan Muslims, but what is undeniable is that some politically influential people are against PJ and his brand of Islam.

- See more at: http://www.dailymirror.lk/94435/stiff-opposition-to-tn-muslim-preacher-jainul-abideen-s-visit-to-lanka#sthash.cEtPZEQ9.dpuf

 

 

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P.J - Sri Lankan visa cancalation

 

Jazakhallah khair for the enlightenment on PJ which many of us did not know.

 

On the same note we have so many enemies within us...this is one refuting the sahee haddes and then we have another force in SL ..muslim grave worshippers who would go to the buddhist extreme and spread rumours of.... Extremism within SL...as Salafis/ Wahabies etcetc

 

 Gnanasara himself said this in an open stage whilst ago during the peak of disturbances, stating he has been informed about muslim extremism  in SL by muslim friends.

 

Allah save us...wher are we heading???...do you call it the sign of the hour or  something has happened to the muslims across the world????

 

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Azward Sulaiman

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Nov 12, 2015, 9:55:33 AM11/12/15
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Subahanallah...again and again we have east & west opinions...this is the main cause  for our division. For sure there must be some ulema who can have a face to face discussion with PJ  and explain his  the actual stand...this can be done in private and  communicated to AVOID the wedging differences arising in our community.

Br. Abdeen is defending PL as not teaching shirk & Learned VS Br. Malhar gives the other extreme..PJ) says...Mistakes in the Qur’an,  rejects 50 ahaadeeth from Saheeh,  once Zakat given in a life time etc etc.

Can some ulema  clarify what is the REAL TRUTH... to AVOID the community breaking up further & further....for the sole purpose of UNITY and not expecting uniformity.

dr.reffai

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Nov 12, 2015, 8:03:30 PM11/12/15
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This is very old matter running for years.  P.j. totally avoids discussions. If he rejects hathees that's serious enough but he calls anyone not following his ideas kafirs. He says one cannot pray behind them, cannot marry them etc. Etc.

Azeem Jamaldeen

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Nov 15, 2015, 10:09:26 AM11/15/15
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I'm wondering why this discussion is pulling out this much with useless manner.

If you guys know what is the corrective paths follow that.

Thawheed people consider about PJ and if you are true believer of Prophet Mohammed and his hadeeth follow that principles.

There are no leaders after our beloved Prophet Muhammed. You have your own knowledge to pick the right thing. We don't have to fight to give opportunities to the politicians to make another tool to their political career.

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