Beware of ‘Abdullaah Yusuf ‘Ali Translation
Malhar Zawahir
Beware of ‘Abdullaah Yusuf ‘Ali Translation
Bismillaah Al-Hamdulillaah
As-salamu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa baarakatuhu,
Below is one of the many, many reasons why the people of knowledge have refuted the ‘Abdullaah Yusuf ‘Ali translation. It is not only incorrect, but should be avoided and burned, as it is a fitnah for the Ummah:
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Here is ‘Abdullaah Yusuf ‘Ali’s wicked translation of the 16th aya of Surat al-Hijr:
015.016 It is We Who have set out the zodiacal signs in the heavens, and made them fair-seeming to (all) beholders;
Here is the Divine text (in Arabic):
وَلَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا فِي السَّمَاءِ بُرُوجا ً وَزَيَّنَّاهَا لِلنَّاظِرِينَ
And here is the translation found in The Noble Qur`an:
And indeed, We have put the big stars in the heaven and We beautified it for the beholders. (Al-Hijr 15:16)
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Aoodhoobillaah! This person inserted his corrupt ‘aqidah into his translation. He denied other matters, also: “In his translation, Abdullah Yusuf Ali denies the reality of the virgins of paradise, paradise itself, the reality of the Jinn, and legalizes bank interest (among other deviant views). ” http://www.salafitalk.net/st/uploads/The_Calamities_of_Ahmed_Deedat.pdf
Ikhwaan wa khawaat, I advise you the strongest warning to burn or bury ‘Abdullaah Yusuf ‘Ali’s translation. And – of course, as you already know – do not support this man’s deviance.
The Messenger of Allaah (salallaahu ‘alaihiwasallam) said, “May Allaah curse he who harbors (accomodates) an innovator (Muhdithan)” and in another wording “that which is innovated (Muhdathan).”
May Allaah guide me and you, and forgive us our sins, and rid us of any pride that might prevent us from accepting advice. Ameen.
Related Link:
- http://www.salafitalk.net/ – Breathed into him My (created) soul
Abdeen
All translations of the Quran are NOT perfect. To declare any as fitnah, and to destroy the Quran Translation of Yusuf Ali on this basis is absurd & Sheer craziness. There is a website “salaf-us-saalih.com.on this topic. this has just been copied, and pasted here believing this to be true and expects others to comply with his idiocy.There are good and bad even in these websites.
According to Dr ZakirNaik.. This book contains 2 of the finest translations of the Quran. The 1st translation is by Yusuf Ali .
About 40 years ago, This was the only English Translation available in this country.
Abdullah Yusuf Ali’s Translation of the Quran:An Evaluation
Zaidan Ali JassemCollege of Medicine, King Saud University, KSA
In
Issues in Education 24: 29-52 Abstract
The intention of this paper is to assess, evaluate and appraise AbdullahYusuf Ali’s translation of the Holy Quran, may Allah bless his soul. Ali’s translation enjoys great respect and has a wide circulation among English-speaking Muslims, especially in the Indian sub-continent; it also has received considerable approval from Muslim scholarly circles around the globe, which is evidenced by the revisions it had at the hands of Islamic institutions and academies in various parts of the world.
Conclusion and suggestions for Improvement
This paper has been a brief description and evaluation of the great al-marhoom Ali’s translation of the Holy Quran as edited and revised by the Presidency of Islamic Researches, IFTA, Call and Guidance (1410H) principally and Amana (1989) secondarily. This evaluation is just the tip of the iceberg; it must be followed by further research not only into this translation but also into others, especially those produced by devout Muslim scholars. These must be studied and compared on levels similar to what has been described here. Of course, new levels can be added as our knowledge of the world and the Quran deepens and improves. As to the translations of non-Muslim scholars, these must be approached with great caution. Those that attack Islam must be rejected outright, those that translate in a faithful and neutral manner can be used- but how many and where are they?
In any case, priority should be given to those whose authors have a high competence in both Arabic and English: the higher, the better. Ali’s work is good in general but can be considerably improved. In light of the above description and discussion, here are a few suggestions and proposals that we make to those noble agencies that are concerned with the updating and revision of his work:
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He equated, not interest but, usury with riba and wrote in The Holy Qur'an: Text, Translation and Commentary [Tahrike Tarsile Qur'an, 2nd ed., 1988] footnote #324:
"usury is condemned and prohibited in the strongest possible terms. There can be no question about the prohibition. When we come to the definition of Usury, there is room for difference of opinion. Hadhrat Umar, according to Ibn Kathir, felt some difficulty in the matter, as the Apostle left this world before the details of the question were settled. This was one of the three questions on which he wished he had had more light from the Apostle, the other two being Khilafat and Kalalat. ... Our Ulama, ancient and modern, have worked out a great body of literature on Usury, based mainly on economic conditions as they existed at the rise of Islam. I agree with them on the main principles, but respectfully differ from them on the definition of Usury. As this subject is highly controversial, I shall discuss it, not in this Commentary but on a suitable occasion elsewhere. The definition I would accept would be: undue profit made, not in the way of legitimate trade, out of loans of gold and silver, and necessary articles of food, such as wheat, barley, dates, and salt (according to the list mentioned by the Holy Apostle himself). My definition would include profiteering of all kinds, but exclude economic credit, the creature of modern banking and finance."
This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (This is the irony of our ummah today....mushrooming fatwas, finding fault and running down the learneds to the extent that any verse of the quran is taken and twisted according to ones advantage , let it be for the person gain of an individual or to a governance.Yes, may be there are some fine tunings required in any translation....this is only a translation and remebering that Yusuf Ali's translation was the only available for ages until everyone got savy with the "google shiekhs".Quoted comparison:-
---Yusuf ‘Ali’s - 15:16 Surat al-Hijr...It is We Who have set out the zodiacal signs in the heavens, and made them fair-seeming to (all) beholders;...
Yusuf Ali denies the reality of the virgins of paradise, paradise itself, the reality of the Jinn, and legalizes bank interest (among other deviant views)
---translation found in The Noble Qur`an:...
And indeed, We have put the big stars in the heaven and We beautified it for the beholders. (Al-Hijr 15:16)
......Talking about ZODIAC vs Stars is NOt changing ones Aqeedah to the extent to burn Yusu Ali's translation as called for....and secondly NOT sure where he justifies ribah???We need to do 2 or 3 things before we start commenting on others:1)--Find or translate somethig better , justify and then call any translation to be rejected thereafter.--2) We all need to refrain....making quick comments about burning, destroying etc unless something more authentic is provided.3) LASTLY and NOT least....WE need to balance in the Quran.....If I understood right the Quran has 1/3 Ibaadath + 2/3rd Ahlaaq/ Etiquettes........Currently we have 100% focusing only on the Ibaadath & 0% on the Muaamalthah...lets balnce both or do both 100% starting in our own communities before we make drastic comments.This is ONLY an opinion and NOT subject to debate and waste everyone time UNLESS there is correction to these observation which would be humbly accepted.-----------------------------
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Abdeen <abde...@sltnet.lk> wrote:
Azward Sulaiman
dr.reffai
Malhar Zawahir
My original mail is related to his original work.
Not the one revised & edited by The Presidency of Islamic Researches, IFTA. King Fahd Quran Printing Complex. (Al Madina Saudi Arabia) 1410 A.H.
Even this revised edition has many issues,
since most of the scholars in Saudi Arabia are not English speaking scholars to
check this translation thoroughly. Once they found this problem in the revised
edition, they stopped printing it and start printing The Noble Quran has been translated into the modern English
Language by
Dr. Muhammad
Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali & Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan. Both are scholars of
Islam. Please read the
biography of these scholars and Abdullah Yusuf Ali’s biography & note that
he was NOT a scholar.
After knowing the details about the man's
background, his beliefs, and his education in Christian Missionary schools that
is advisable to leave his original translation/commentary and benefit
from the authentic translation that is safe.
Also Hur translated as Companions. Click here to read about Dr. Naik’s errors with regards to this issue.
He says “So the word Hur is rightly translated by Muhammad Asad as spouse and also by Abdullah Yousuf Alee as companion. So Hur actually means a companion or a spouse. It has no gender. Further a man will get a good lady with big beautiful eyes and for a woman she will get a good man with big beautiful eyes”
The translation of the Glorious Qur’an by Muhammad Asad
Fatal errors and flagrant false beliefs in the Translation of the Qur’an by Muhammad Asad
Brother this issue is not simple as many of us
think.
Muhammad bin Jarir reported that Ibn 'Abbas said that the Prophet (Sallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said,
[Whoever explains the Qur'an with his opinion or with what he has no knowledge of,then let him assume his seat in the Fire.]
At-Tirmidhi, An-Nasa'i and Abu Dawud also recorded this Hadith. At-Tirmidhi said, "Hasan".
Explaining what One has Knowledge of, Silence otherwise
The Salaf used to refrain from explaining what they had no knowledge of. For instance, Ibn Jarir (At-Tabari) reported that Abu Ma'mar said that Abu Bakr As-Siddiq said, “Which land will carry me and which heaven will shade me if I said about Allah's Book that which I have no knowledge of? "
At-Tabari 1:78
Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (d.728H) - rahimahullaah - said:
"When some
people asked Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal that
they felt uneasy about criticizing people, he replied: "If I were to
remain silent, how would the ignorant masses know the truth from
falsehood?" Those who introduce heretical writings which oppose the
Qur'aan and the Sunnah and those who innovate in matters of worship, then it is
obligatory that they be exposed and that the Muslims be warned against them -
by unanimous agreement of the Muslims Scholars. In fact, when Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal was asked about a person
who fasted, preyed and secluded himself in the mosque for worship; if he was
dearer to him than a person who spoke out against ahlul-bid'ah (the
innovators), he replied: "When he fasts and prays and secludes himself,
then he does so for the benefit of his own self. However, when he speaks out
against the innovators, he does so for the benefit of the Muslims in general,
and this is more virtuous." So it is clear that openly opposing the
innovators is of general benefit to the Muslims and is considered one of the
types of jihaad in the path of Allaah. Since purifying the religion of
Allaah and defending it from their attacks is a collective obligation - as is
agreed upon by the Scholars. For Allaah did not raise up some people to oppose
the innovators, then the religion would suffer harm, corruption and deviation.
Indeed, this type of corruption is even greater then the corruption resulting
from the disbelievers conquering the Muslims. Since when the disbelievers
conquer the Muslims, they do not corrupt their hearts, nor their religion,
except after some time. Whereas the innovators corrupt the hearts from the very
beginning."
May Allah Save us!
Malhar Zawahir
This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (I dont deny that there is ambiguity or in-coreectness.....All what I am saying is let us highlight issues that crosses you which you feel ambiguous RATHER than strong statement/ Appeals to burn all Yusuf Ali translation or this ulema is kuffur or that ulema is kuffur.....For average people like me I cannot distinguish for eg....There is some refutation of Nouman Ali khan saying his Aqeedah is not perfect....for sake of discussion let us agree BUT Is he preaching any Kufr ...NO ...May be he is NOT strong in foundation as some others. The good thing is people like Nouman Ali can relate to the youth of the USA ...unfortunately Ulemas who have not lived in the west cannot relate a situation which exists there.Just to relate an experience, I had attended a conference in Oman whilst ago organized by JP MOrgan just before they merged with ChaseManhattan. Some of the key matter was....ME being a net lender will become a net borrower and the bank interst is Not the Riba what is spoken in Quran and the interest is the cost or benfit of the business venture....Questioanable....But this is what these big bans are coming to the ME and doing and our authorities are convinced with these......This is in line with the famous hadees....A time will come even the air one breathes will be mixed with interest and we are there now.Bottom line is LEt us Restrain making harsh statement s and Fatwas BUT educate in the most noble way our Prophet sal taught us.....to educate the ummah rather than breaking into groupe after groups as we are now....in this day everything seems justifiable with the name of islam in front from what is happening in the ME to the interests etc etc.MAy Allah guide us all in the right path and the
dr.reffai
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Where did u read Yusuf Ali's biography? Wikipedia is full of lies and slander.
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Malhar Zawahir <malh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dr.Reffai
Malhar Zawahir
He writes, after quoting a passage from Qutb's commentary az-Zilal (7/269) (في ظلال القرآن طبعة عيسى الحلبي الثانية), and he is essentially summarizing the main points from what he quoted from Qutb:
The Book Pertaining to the Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour (Kitab Al-Fitan wa Ashrat As-Sa`ah) ![]()
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Abu Nadra reported:" We were in the company of Jabir b. 'Abdulldh that he saidit may happen that the people of Iraq may not send their qafiz and dirhams (their measures of food stuff and their money). We said: Who would be responsible for it? He said: The non_Arabs would prevent them. He again said: There is the possibility that the people of Syria may not send their dinar and mudd. We said: Who would be responsible for it? He said This prevention would be made by the Romans. He (Jabir b. Abdullab) kept quiet for a while and then reported Allah', s Messengdt (may peas be upon him) having said There would be a caliph in the last (period) of my Ummah who would freely give handfuls of wealth to thd people wiothout counting it. I said to Abu Nadra and Abu al-'Ala: DO you mean 'Umarb. 'Abd al-Aziz?They said: No (he would be Imam Mahdi.).[Muslim :: Book 41 : Hadith 6961]
Bukhari :Book 1 :Volume 3 :Hadith 85 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "(Religious) knowledge will be taken away (by the death of religious scholars) ignorance (in religion) and afflictions will appear; and Harj will increase." It was asked, "What is Harj, O Allah's Apostle?" He replied by beckoning with his hand indicating "killing." (Fateh-al-Bari Page 192, Vol. 1) May Allah Grant us Beneficial Knowledge Save us from this Fitna!Malhar Zawahir
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Assalaamu AlaikumBrother Malhar Zawahir is now saying that he was referring to the original translation by Yusuf Ali and not the revised one by IFTA. Shouldn't he have mentioned this in his first post itself
instead of creating confusion in the minds of the readers particularly because it is now about 25 years since the revised edition came into being which would essentially mean the original translation must have become extinct years ago?
Also, he has stated that “Even this revised edition has many issues, since most of the scholars in Saudi Arabia are not English speaking scholars to check this translation thoroughly”He seems to be concerned that 1400 years after the revelation of th Holy Qur'an, we still do not have a proper English translation of the Holy Book. Does it mean, all those who depended on the English translation, which cannot be a small number by any stretch of imagination, didn't have a proper understanding of the Holy Book all these years?
Then, what about the Arabs, in whose language the Holy Book has been revealed? Have they got a proper understanding? The Muslim world, the Arab Muslim world in particular, has been in turmoil particularly in the last decade or two with millions killed and wounded and many more millions terrorised into fleeing their homes in Iraq to a life of squalor in camps and, of late, in Libya, Egypt and Syria with Muslims killing fellow Muslims in the name of Islam. Would this be happening if the Arabs, particularly those from rich countries like the Gulf states understood the Holy Book properly?
Who helped in the brutal invasion of Iraq by the Nasaaraas led by the US? Is it not the Saudis, Kuwaitis, Qataris and Bahrainis? If, just if, one of these countries paid any heed to the Holy Qur'an, would millions of Iraqis have been killed, wounded and displaced and would that country be still bleeding 11 years after the brutal invasion? Doesn't Allah (Swt) Warn in Surah 5 v. 51 against taking the Yehudis and Nasaaraas as Auliya? Here is an English translation of the verse..
"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliya' of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliya'), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust". (Mohsin Khan)
Doesn't the 1915 Treaty of Darin, signed by king Ibn Saud with the British making the country a British protectorate contravene the above verse?
Doesn't the secret Agreement between king Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud and US President Roosevelt aboard the vessel USS. Quincy in 1945 to provide Saudi Arabia military security — military assistance, training and a military base at Dhahran in Saudi Arabia - contravene the above verse?
Didn't these Agreements make it easy for the British and the Americans to create the zionist entity in Palestine thereby causing unending suffering for millions of Palestinians for over six decades not to mention the humiliation to the worldwide Muslim Ummah?
Because the Gulf states led by Saudi Arabia have been aligning with the Yehudis and Nasaaraas in violation of Allah's (Swt) Command in 5:51, the Ummah has been undergoing severe hardships beginning with Palestine and now engulfing many Arab countries. The enemies of Islam have become so emboldened by the abject failure of the wealthy Arab countries, that even in wretchedly poor Myanmar, the extremist Buddhists had no qualms about attacking the Muslims there and even Sri Lanka seems to be following the same path.
The Islamophobes have become very active now thanks to the pathetic state of the Muslim countries with Muslims killing fellow Muslims in the name of Islam with Arab Muslim countries themselves supporting one group or the other. So much so, they deride Islamic Teachings, Allah(Swt), our Beloved Prophet (Sal) and Jihad.
So, what is important today? Is it the proper understanding of the Holy Qur'an through English or the strict following of the Holy Book by Arab Muslims who understand the language? The answer is plain and simple.
It will be best if brother Malhar Zawahir will stop nit-picking like the Saudi salafis and concentrate on the REAL issues facing the Ummah. For a start, why doesn't he focus on making the Arabs follow the Holy Qur'an correctly?
Wassalaam
Brother Malhar Zawahir is now saying that he was referring to the original translation by Yusuf Ali and not the revised one by IFTA. Shouldn't he have mentioned this in his first post itself
instead of creating confusion in the minds of the readers particularly because it is now 20 years since the revised edition came into being which would essentially mean the original translation must have become extinct years ago?
Also, he has stated that “Even this revised edition has many issues, since most of the scholars in Saudi Arabia are not English speaking scholars to check this translation thoroughly”
It will be interesting to know whether the "many issues" in the "revised edition" that he referred to were according to his own reckoning or that of others.
He seems to be concerned that
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10:100- No soul can believe except by the Will of Allah and He will place Doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand. 1481 1482
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I don't know why we should be so stubborn to drink the murky water instead of clean safe water from a water well.
لاحول ولا قوة إلا بالله
Brother,
you raised an important point regarding killing taking place all over the Muslim/ Arab world.
Who are the evil scholars brain wash them to kill their own Muslim brothers and Sisters?
Few years before when I send some information regarding Sayyid Qutub's evil Tafsir of Quran “Fi Thilal al-Quran”, I got the same kind of refutation.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi on Sayyid Qutb: All Muslims Are Apostates (Kuffaar, Mushrikeen) Except Those Who Agree With My Ideology and Join My Group
Yusuf al-Qardawi is one of the most prominent of the contemporary figureheads of al-Ikhwan al-Muslimeen and he has written many times on the movements ofTakfir. We see a couple of trends amongst todays Ikhwanis. Seeing that the ideologies of Takfir found in Qutb's books are harmful to their cause, a group amongst them (like al-Qaradawi) are trying to distance the Ikhwaan from these teachings. He is opposed by others, who try to downplay the issue of Takfir and argue that the books of Sayyid Qutb have been fundamental to the Ikhwaani movement, and that they have an important role to play. We'll leave them to argue about these issues, but here is a statement of al-Qaradawi taken from an article published on 4th May 2004 called (هل يكفّر "سيد قطب" مسلمي اليوم؟) in which he outlines the ideology of Takfir in the works of Sayyid Qutb.
He writes, after quoting a passage from Qutb's commentary az-Zilal (7/269) (في ظلال القرآن طبعة عيسى الحلبي الثانية), and he is essentially summarizing the main points from what he quoted from Qutb:
النص واضح تمام الوضوح: إن الكاتب لا يعتبر مسلما إلا من آمن بفكرته هذه، وهي الفئة التي يسميها "العصبة المسلمة"، وهي التي يجب أن تشعر بأنها وحدها هي "الأمة المسلمة"، وأن ما حولها ومن حولها ممن لم يدخلوا فيما دخلت فيه جاهلية وأهل جاهلية، أي هم مشركون وكفار، ليس لهم في الإسلام نصيب، وإن كانوا يصلون ويصومون ويزكون ويحجون! فكأنما المسلمون جميعا بمثابة مشركي مكة عند البعثة المحمدية، وكأنما دعوته بمثابة دعوة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم؛ من آمن بها دخل في الإسلام، ومن لم يؤمن بها فهو جاهلي كافر حلال الدم!!
The text is clear, and completely apparent: The writer (Qutb) does not consider [anyone] to be a Muslim except whoever believes in this ideology of his, and this is the group that he calls the "Muslim Vanguard", and this [group] is the one for which it is obligatory to realize that it alone is the "Muslim Ummah", and that whatever is around it and whoever is around it, from those who have not entered into what [this group] has entered into, is [itself] Jaahiliyyah and [those people are] the people ofJaahiliyyah, meaning they are Mushriks and Kuffar, they do not have any share of Islaam, even if they pray, fast, give zakah, and make the pilgrimage. It is as if all the Muslims are equivalent to the Mushriks of Makkah at the time of the sending of Muhammad (as a Messenger), and it is as if his da'wah is equivalent to the da'wah of Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam), whoever believed in that da'wah entered into Islaam and whoever did not believe in it, then he is a Jaahiliyy, Kaafir, whose blood is permissible to shed!!
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This is the irony of our ummah today....mushrooming fatwas, finding fault and running down the learneds to the extent that any verse of the quran is taken and twisted according to ones advantage , let it be for the person gain of an individual or to a governance.
Yes, may be there are some fine tunings required in any translation....this is only a translation and remebering that Yusuf Ali's translation was the only available for ages until everyone got savy with the "google shiekhs".
Quoted comparison:
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Yusuf ‘Ali’s - 15:16 Surat al-Hijr...It is We Who have set out the zodiacal signs in the heavens, and made them fair-seeming to (all) beholders;...
Yusuf Ali denies the reality of the virgins of paradise, paradise itself, the reality of the Jinn, and legalizes bank interest (among other deviant views)
---translation found in The Noble Qur`an:
...
And indeed, We have put the big stars in the heaven and We beautified it for the beholders. (Al-Hijr 15:16)
......Talking about ZODIAC vs Stars is NOt changing ones Aqeedah to the extent to burn Yusu Ali's translation as called for....and secondly NOT sure where he justifies ribah???
We need to do 2 or 3 things before we start commenting on others:
1)--Find or translate somethig better , justify and then call any translation to be rejected thereafter.
--2) We all need to refrain....making quick comments about burning, destroying etc unless something more authentic is provided.
3) LASTLY and NOT least....WE need to balance in the Quran.....If I understood right the Quran has 1/3 Ibaadath + 2/3rd Ahlaaq/ Etiquettes........Currently we have 100% focusing only on the Ibaadath & 0% on the Muaamalthah...lets balnce both or do both 100% starting in our own communities before we make drastic comments.
This is ONLY an opinion and NOT subject to debate and waste everyone time UNLESS there is correction to these observation which would be humbly accepted.
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﴿وَلَوْ شَآءَ رَبُّكَ لآمَنَ مَن فِى الاٌّرْضِ كُلُّهُمْ جَمِيعًا أَفَأَنتَ تُكْرِهُ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَكُونُواْ مُؤْمِنِينَ - وَمَا كَانَ لِنَفْسٍ أَن تُؤْمِنَ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَيَجْعَلُ الرِّجْسَ عَلَى الَّذِينَ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ ﴾
(10:99 - And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you then compel mankind, until they become believers.)
(10:100 - It is not for any person to believe, except by the leave of Allah, and He will put the Rijs on those who do not reason.)
It is not Part of Allah's Decree to compel Belief
Allah said:
﴿وَلَوْ شَآءَ رَبُّكَ﴾
(And had your Lord willed) meaning `O Muhammad, if it had been the will of your Lord, He would make all the people of the earth believe in what you have brought to them. But Allah has wisdom in what He does.' Similarly, Allah said:
﴿وَلَوْ شَآءَ رَبُّكَ لَجَعَلَ النَّاسَ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلاَ يَزَالُونَ مُخْتَلِفِينَ ﴾
﴿إِلاَّ مَن رَّحِمَ رَبُّكَ وَلِذلِكَ خَلَقَهُمْ وَتَمَّتْ كَلِمَةُ رَبِّكَ لاّمْلاّنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ ﴾
(And if your Lord had so willed, He could surely have made mankind one Ummah, but they will not cease to disagree. Except him on whom your Lord has bestowed His mercy and for that did He create them. And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled (His saying): "Surely, I shall fill Hell with Jinn and men all together.'') (11:118-119) He also said,
﴿أَفَلَمْ يَاْيْـَسِ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ أَن لَّوْ يَشَآءُ اللَّهُ لَهَدَى النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا﴾
(Have not then those who believed yet known that had Allah willed, He could have guided all mankind) (13:31) Therefore, Allah said:
﴿أَفَأَنتَ تُكْرِهُ النَّاسَ﴾
(So, will you then compel mankind) and force them to believe.
﴿حَتَّى يَكُونُواْ مُؤْمِنِينَ﴾
(until they become believers.) meaning, it is not for you to do that. You are not commanded to do that either. It is Allah Who
﴿يُضِلُّ مَن يَشَآءُ وَيَهْدِى مَن يَشَآءُ﴾
(sends astray whom He wills, and guides whom He wills.)(35:8).
﴿فَلاَ تَذْهَبْ نَفْسُكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَسَرَتٍ﴾
(So do not destroy yourself in sorrow for them.)
﴿لَّيْسَ عَلَيْكَ هُدَاهُمْ وَلَـكِنَّ اللَّهَ يَهْدِى مَن يَشَآءُ﴾
(It is not up to you to guide them, but Allah guides whom He wills.)﴿2:272﴾.
﴿لَعَلَّكَ بَـخِعٌ نَّفْسَكَ أَلاَّ يَكُونُواْ مُؤْمِنِينَ ﴾
(It may be that you would kill yourself with grief because they are not believers.) ﴿26:3﴾
﴿إِنَّكَ لاَ تَهْدِى مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ﴾
(you guide not who you like..) ﴿28:56﴾
﴿فَإِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ الْبَلَـغُ وَعَلَيْنَا الْحِسَابُ﴾
(Your duty is only to convey, and it is up to Us to reckon. ) ﴿13:40﴾
﴿فَذَكِّرْ إِنَّمَآ أَنتَ مُذَكِّرٌ - لَّسْتَ عَلَيْهِم بِمُسَيْطِرٍ ﴾
(So remind, you are only one who reminds. You are not a dictator over them.) ﴿88:21-22﴾ There are other Ayat besides these which prove that Allah is the doer of what He wants, guiding whom He wills, leading whom He wills to stray, all out of His knowledge, wisdom, and justice. Similarly, He said,
﴿وَمَا كَانَ لِنَفْسٍ أَن تُؤْمِنَ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَيَجْعَلُ الرِّجْسَ عَلَى الَّذِينَ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ ﴾
(It is not for any person to believe, except by the leave of Allah, and He will put the Rijs) That is, disorder and misguidance
﴿عَلَى الَّذِينَ لاَ يَعْقِلُونَ﴾
(upon those who do not reason) meaning, Allah's proofs and evidences, and He is the Just in all matters, guiding whom He wills to guide, and leading whom He wills astray.
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Subject: Re: [jamatheislami] Re: HalaalSL
► Beware of ‘Abdullaah Yusuf ‘Ali Translation
I don't know why we should be so stubborn to drink the murky water instead of clean safe water from a water well.
لاحول ولا قوة إلا بالله
Brother,
you raised an important point regarding killing taking place all over the Muslim/ Arab world.
Who are the evil scholars brain wash them to kill their own Muslim brothers and Sisters?
Few years before when I send some information regarding Sayyid Qutub's evil Tafsir of Quran “Fi Thilal al-Quran”, I got the same kind of refutation.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi on Sayyid Qutb: All Muslims Are Apostates (Kuffaar, Mushrikeen) Except Those Who Agree With My Ideology and Join My Group
Yusuf al-Qardawi is one of the most prominent of the contemporary figureheads of al-Ikhwan al-Muslimeen and he has written many times on the movements ofTakfir. We see a couple of trends amongst todays Ikhwanis. Seeing that the ideologies of Takfir found in Qutb's books are harmful to their cause, a group amongst them (like al-Qaradawi) are trying to distance the Ikhwaan from these teachings. He is opposed by others, who try to downplay the issue of Takfir and argue that the books of Sayyid Qutb have been fundamental to the Ikhwaani movement, and that they have an important role to play. We'll leave them to argue about these issues, but here is a statement of al-Qaradawi taken from an article published on 4th May 2004 called (هل يكفّر "سيد قطب" مسلمي اليوم؟) in which he outlines the ideology of Takfir in the works of Sayyid Qutb.
He writes, after quoting a passage from Qutb's commentary az-Zilal (7/269) (في ظلال القرآن طبعة عيسى الحلبي الثانية), and he is essentially summarizing the main points from what he quoted from Qutb:
النص واضح تمام الوضوح: إن الكاتب لا يعتبر مسلما إلا من آمن بفكرته هذه، وهي الفئة التي يسميها "العصبة المسلمة"، وهي التي يجب أن تشعر بأنها وحدها هي "الأمة المسلمة"، وأن ما حولها ومن حولها ممن لم يدخلوا فيما دخلت فيه جاهلية وأهل جاهلية، أي هم مشركون وكفار، ليس لهم في الإسلام نصيب، وإن كانوا يصلون ويصومون ويزكون ويحجون! فكأنما المسلمون جميعا بمثابة مشركي مكة عند البعثة المحمدية، وكأنما دعوته بمثابة دعوة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم؛ من آمن بها دخل في الإسلام، ومن لم يؤمن بها فهو جاهلي كافر حلال الدم!!
The text is clear, and completely apparent: The writer (Qutb) does not consider [anyone] to be a Muslim except whoever believes in this ideology of his, and this is the group that he calls the "Muslim Vanguard", and this [group] is the one for which it is obligatory to realize that it alone is the "Muslim Ummah", and that whatever is around it and whoever is around it, from those who have not entered into what [this group] has entered into, is [itself] Jaahiliyyah and [those people are] the people ofJaahiliyyah, meaning they are Mushriks and Kuffar, they do not have any share of Islaam, even if they pray, fast, give zakah, and make the pilgrimage. It is as if all the Muslims are equivalent to the Mushriks of Makkah at the time of the sending of Muhammad (as a Messenger), and it is as if his da'wah is equivalent to the da'wah of Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam), whoever believed in that da'wah entered into Islaam and whoever did not believe in it, then he is a Jaahiliyy, Kaafir, whose blood is permissible to shed!!
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Yusry
Fully agree.
Besides Malhar Zawahir’s personal opinion, is there any other scholar or agency who is condemning Yusuf Ali’s translation? (Outside the Saudi nexus)
Those who are so eager to go deep into the purported background of Yusuf Ali and condemn him, are not very eager to delve into the background and history of the presenters of the new translations they quote, their masters who were installed by the Zionists in 1920, and to know how the seats of current learning in our 2 most holiest cities are zionized and politicized to suit the whims of a ‘kept’ ruler.
The newer translations probably came after we developed GPS, so the significance of the zodiac, the stars and the system of navigation used by man from the time he decided to travel, till the 20th century, cannot be appreciated enough, and now suddenly becomes a point to start burning the Holy Quran.
Regarding usuri, its interesting to note that there were no banks 1400 years ago, yet today, despite every bank dealing in compound interest, (we know who controls and runs the banking industry) we knowingly deal with them, yet without a single clear fatwa on whether a muslim could or should have dealings with these institutions or not.
We call a genuine scholar wicked for saying zodiac instead of stars; but can we have a ruling that any dealing with banks or institution dealing in interest is haraam?
Ask a muslim about Islamic banking today, and sadly you will get a thesis on why Islamic banking is not acceptable to him, and will start talking about the merits of dealing with banks that give him good service, fast cash, easy loans, better ROI etc etc.
I don’t think profiteering has got anything to do with interest. If you can afford something, even at a huge mark up, you buy it. But when someone is put in perpetual debt and the person pays many times more than he borrowed, that is interest, which is being discussed.
Why exclude economic loans? Arent we aware of our national debt, or the 14 Trillion of the USA, which will never get paid, and what will happen to all the indebted economies of the world if they just decide to do so?
For business loans there are many instruments in use in Islamic banking which are compliant with Sharia.
May Allah SWT shower His choicest Blessings upon Yusuf Ali and his descendents, and may peace be upon our Holy Prophet Muhammed (Sal.Al.Was)
Best regards
AYM
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