Re: Dr. Chandima Wijegunawardena, views & experience about Islam include dress code

[niyas abbas]

Didn't I tell you Chandima! THese so called Buddhist hooligans have nothing but vulgarism when they cannot counter a statement intelligently. This is their trend ... when someone speaks good of Islam or Muslims they start their filth ... this is the way they think they can promote Buddhism and get others to embrace it. 

Thank God we don't have to resort to such failed tactics because our scripture supports us to counter any argument. Since it is pristinely pure scripture revealed to us by the Creator and sustainer of this universe. It is not a Book written down 500 years after its revelation. It was written down as it was revealed. So every letter in it is a fact and uncorrupted. This is unique for the Quran. 

These guys have destroyed the beauty of Buddha's teaching. I have great respect for him. I don't have to use insult on him to gain advantage for Islam. Buddha spoke many things and agrees with Islam. And only Muslims practice panchaseela to the full. There is hardly a Buddhist who practices all five precepts at anytime. 

So Chandima, think twice and embrace this great religion in which event you will be practicing both Buddhism and Islam together. I hope you read my writing on Aluthgama Carnage. If not please read it. Even Hijab was prescribed to you by Buddha. I have given references. 

I am not sure if Chandima's email id is added here. But please forward this to her if anyone knows it. My request for Chandima is to contact me with a personal mail. I would appreciate it very much. Be a Muslimah and dignify Buddha and his great teachings. You will join a society whose majority practice .... No Liquor, No caste segregation, No premarital sex, no prostitution, no gambling ... kindnes to parents and elders, belief in Heaven, Hell, Angels, Maara etc etc ... these are values promoted by Buddha and Islam.

Niyas

On Tuesday, 26 August 2014, 4:42, Chamila Waduge <chamil...@gmail.com> wrote:

Now, Chandima is going to be the next darling in Islamic haven.
Good luck chandima! Coz, you'll hardly get a chance to rest. Those brainless sex fanatic idiots are waiting queuing up for you.

On 25/08/2014 11:52 pm, "niyas abbas" <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear Chandima .... You are a great person who dared to venture out and speak the truth in forum of Buddhist hooligans. These are people who lack wisdom ... the only way they know to counter an evidence based argument is thru' VULGARISM. This is the way tehy try to protect Buddhism. 

Keep it up Chandima. God Almighty will protect you and I pray to Him to bring you tot he fold of TRUTH whichever it is.

We Muslims are all with you. Don't fear these Mahadena Muttas.

Niyas Abbas.

On Saturday, 26 July 2014, 10:16, Janaka Perera <sriyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Azward,

 

Thank you for your intelligent response.  I also appreciate you apologizing on behalf of Sri Lankan Muslims for what Razick said about the Buddha and his teaching – although you are not to blame for Razick’s distortions. 

 

This again draws attention to an issue which I have raised a couple of times in this forum, especially in response to what Muslims like Niyas have been doing.  It is that non-Buddhists must refrain from interpreting Buddhism for Buddhists or saying that Buddhists are ignorant of the Buddha’s teaching; that they are becoming Hindus etc.  That is a matter for Buddhists to decide (excepting a few non-Buddhists who may be true and sincere scholars on the subject).  

 

No doubt, there are similarities between religions but that does NOT make all religions the same. The difference between Abrahamic / monotheistic religions and other teachings like Jainism, Buddhism, Confucianism and Taoism are vast, irrespective of which group is right or wrong. Those who fail to recognize this fact or turn a blind eye to it are either frauds or fools.  

 

Moreover, Buddhism is less of a religion in the widely accepted sense. We do not need religious pickles to build communal harmony. Instead we need to recognize the differences and live with that understanding without offending others as far as possible by our beliefs and practices.

 

Therefore what non-Muslims need to know in particular is what is NOT Islamic in the context what is happening in predominantly Muslim countries.  I see that compared to Sri Lankan Musims their non-Sri Lankan counterparts writing to the forum are more open in their views relating to sectarian differences and conflicts, though some may disagree with the opinions expressed.

 

Regards,

 

Janaka

 

 

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Janka,

You have raised some very valid points and muslims definitely owes  clarification to these point you have raised, the owness of this should have been taken by the SL muslims rather than pushing the responsibility to a person like Dr.Chandima.

At the outset many are of the view that the Sri Lankan Muslims failed to explain the true Islam or their practices to the non-muslims in SL. Like yourself there may be many more who would like clarification to questions you have raised. 

Even before we start this discussion , let me personally apologoise on behalf of the muslims again  to the statements made by this Razick trying to expalin what the Buddha ate and preached. He is neither a  theologist nor someone of authority. In the majority muslims understanding, duty of a muslim is ONLY to explain/tell what Islam is (SL Muslims Failed) BUT NOT try to CONVERT anyone.We believe someone following Islam CANNOt be by compulsion BUT it is also a guidance from Allah.

Islam respects other religioun, the story of this JIZYA circulating (even though misconstrued) is a PROOF  to say that even during the early times of Islam every person was allowed to practise what  he wanted and in the muslim states people were compelled to pay Zakath to the state and non-muslims were exempted. The muslims paying zakath relived the state from the burden of supporting the people  and it was done to an extent like what is now practised in the west with old age support/ child support/ disability support etc. The zakath supported the poor and the governance was able to use their resources to provide other services like security and probably infrastructure etc.  Since the Non-muslims were exempted from zakath as this is a religious tax, the government imposed something called Jizya from the non-muslims for the services provided and that too with certain exemptions  like the sick, low incomed etc. In current day Zakath is  NOT collected by muslim states other than from corporates and the individuals do not pay to the state but take care as an obligation on their own and also Jizya is also not practised any more.

We are almost toward the tail end of ramadan  and the last ten days is supposed to be for repentance from god, calculate the 2.5% charity to the poor and arranging staple food distribution to the poor called fitra....God willing we will start clarifying the concerns you have raised.

May Peace privail in motherlanka and all over the world!  

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Janaka Perera <sriyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Azward,

When we try to explain a religion to those who are not familiar with it the right way to do it is to give a complete picture at least in summary.  It means telling them not only what we think is right about the religion but also what we believe are distortions.  In other words we must try to answer at least the main criticisms instead of simply saying the critics are misguided or they are ignorant.

This is where Chandima has failed, especially because she talking of Islam in general not just Islam in Sri Lanka. She does not explain the different practices and complexities in different Islamic countries and the reasons for them but simply paints a rosy picture all round.

I do not know about the Quran very much.  But I know in general various religious teachings have often been distorted and been given different interpretations / misinterpretations.  Some interpretations may be right and others wrong. It is for the religious authorities to decide which is which.

Chandima makes no mention of the different sects such as Shia, Sunni, Sufi, Wahabi and Ahamadia, no mention of the violent conflicts among them and the reasons for their existence or whether some of them are propagating the wrong Islam.

Therefore the questions I am posing to Chandima are based on (1) my observations (2) on what I read and watch in the media and (3) what I have heard from friends and relatives who have been to different Muslim countries – NOT on what is the Quran. I myself have been to Pakistan.

I am raising only a few issues for the present, because there is no space for all.

In Saudi Arabia I have heard that the Customs authorities do not allow Buddhist or Hindu images into the country. I know my friends have experienced this.   The Saudis also do not allow women to drive cars (whether the ban has been lifted now I do not know).   When I read Saudi newspapers I hardly see any news reports and photos of women involved in social and political activity.

But the situation is entirely different in Muslim countries like Malaysia and Indonesia where Buddhism survives and where women hold high positions and also the authorities are not so strict on the dress code as in Saudi or Sudan.  Needless to say about the vast differences in the legal systems and harsh punishments, all in the name of Islam.

In Sri Lanka when well-known Sinhala novelist and author, the late Martin Wickremasinghe wrote the life of the Buddha in the form of a Sinhala novel Bava Tharanaya several Buddhist monks objected to some of the book’s contents and wanted it banned though the Government did not accede to their request.   But the monks did NOT call for execution of the author unlike the way Iran issued a Fatwa on Salman Rushdie or Muslims elsewhere demanded that  the Danish cartoonist who did a cartoon on Prophet Mohamed be killed.

What does Chandima think of the Taliban which prevented Afghan women from doing jobs, banned women’s education, music, dancing, cinema and TV and blew up the Bamiyan Buddha Statues all in the name of Islam?  Is that Islam or not to her?

Does she want us to accept that all what Thasleema Nasreen and Malala stated are pure fabrications? (That the West exploited Malala’s case for their advantage is a different issue, because the West to some extent is exploiting the Dalai Lama too).

Muslim women fully covering themselves on their own accord is not the issue.  But why in Saudi and under Taliban they all are forced to do so? Is that Islamic or not?

What about the so-called honour killings and female circumcision?  Are these Islamic? What has Chandima got to say about the Muslim who alleged that the Buddha was a cannibal and was severely warned by Sri Lankan courts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZOZLWPFoW4

Chandima should give us a clearer picture of Islam worldwide to us and also what Islam is not by giving examples.

Janaka

 

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On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Janaka,

Yu are a rational thinking person and reflect good breed and proper up-bringing ....appreciate  you share you questions with us as well, when it is convenient to you....we will try and trace Dr. Chandima to answer.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Janaka Perera <sriyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Zuhair, Azward.

Some of what you say may be true. But I intend to raise some different questions which I will pose later, time permitting.

Actually I prefer if Chandima could answer them.

Janaka

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Zuhair <zuha...@gmail.com> wrote:

My dear Janaka.

She work in Saudi Arabia. I am in the Middle East working for 20 years.

Women enjoy enough privilege and security in these places.

In Bahrain 33% of the local employees are women. They have a very good standard of living. In an office environment they enjoy much better position than an average working women in Asia.

It is obvious Dr.Chandima observed it.  Very soon there will be a Bahraini women business delegation will visit Sri Lanka.

I will reply to other email of yours soon.

Keep in touch.

Zuhair

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Janaka Perera <sriyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I too wish to see how Chandima and any other non-Muslims who share her views would respond to this.   

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Mahesh Pathirana <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

This woman Dr.Chandima Wijegunawardana has simply done a pukkali service to the Muslims. Such services would not come free, naturally Muslims are very keen on hiding their true nature of Islam while trying to show off things that Islam never possesses, such as pretended decency, pretended compassion and pretended generosity etc. 

Islam do not allow anybody to expose it's true nature. But they try to buy non-Muslims towards their propaganda activities and I feel this Dr.Chandima is one such example. 

Actually there is no point of talking about Chamdima in front of these few Muslims like Zuhair, Azward and others. But I wish this message would somehow reach Dr.Chandima, so she will be able to get some light of truth in to her ignorant life. 

Ignorant she is, for talking things that she doesn't know about. As I have written in another post, they do this for three reasons, 

01) For their utter ignorance OR 02) For some monetary deal OR 03) For both the above reasons

There are many questions & suspicions arising from her ignorant voice cut. 

01) Firstly, she is not aware that she is not allowed to translate Qur'an like that and it is HARAM. But Zuhair and Azward comfortably talk ignoring this matter. But, usually for Muslims Kabaragoya is always a Thalagoya if it is beneficial to Islam, so with that idea in mind, it is likely that these duo will praise her attempt, but will certainly abandon her and betray her if something goes wrong and the matter (eg., some of her translated verses ) turned out to be exposing Islam 

02) She says that Muslims live exactly within the framework (i.e. commands and guidance) of Qur'an and that framework is so beautiful. And she is also requesting the Sinhala people to read the Qur'an and understand the beauty of it.

This is where the cat jumps out of the bag. A sane non-Muslim woman would never claim such a ignorant statement.   And she further claims that Muslim women have a very good family life and Thaslima Nasreen and Malala are liars for telling that Muslim women have miserable family lives. Here this ignorant woman has overstepped, how can she being a non-Muslim woman, make such a claim, if she has not been guided to say so ( or money talks ??) 

It is very true that the Muslim women have miserable family lives. They simply live in a hell on this earth, silently suffering and cursing their men and Islam. They are not allowed to resist the situation they are living in or to talk the truth about Islam and it's culture. 

She then says she knows that some Muslim businessmen used to give Dan-sal during Poya days. Of course it is done by Muslims as a part of their game "taquiyya" to deceive the Sinhala Buddhist community. 

She even claims that Mohammed (SALLALA) had never banned women's education. What an Islamic scholar she is???

She must actually make her claim in front of the pious Muslims like Taliban or Al-Quida and see what response she would get from those "true Muslims". She comfortably forgets that Malala was shot at her head simply for going to school.

Her claim that Islam has given a very honorable place to women is extremely amusing. She is bringing in some made up hadith in Islam as a proof. One man asked Mohammed (SALLALA) , "Who is the most important person in our life", Mohammed (SALLALA) answered "it is the Mother". Then she claims that all the people there looked face to face in total surprise. (Probably they knew better than Dr.Chandima that Mohammed (SALLALA) hated women and hated his mother, so naturally they must have looked face to face in surprise). She says, that person asked the same question three times and Mohamed ( SALLALA) gave the same answer three times. This is all made up stories about Mohammed (SALLALA)  used as image building tactics. 

Below is how exactly Mohammed treated women. 

Sahih Bukhari Book #9, Hadith #493 Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said to the prophet, "You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs. By Allah! I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in (my) bed between him and the Qibla"

Sahih al-Bukhari : 4138
We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the invasion of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we captured women and girls from among the Banu Al-Mustaaliq and we desired to have sex with them and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus [pulling out the penis before ejaculation]. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said: "How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us? We asked (him) about it and he said: "It is better for you not to do coitus interruptus, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist." 

Sunan Abu Dawud 2150—
The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives (RAPE) in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you except those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” 

This means, Muslims can rape the helpless non-Muslim captive women even in front of their husbands. 

And when a man wishes to discard a wife then all he has to say is "I divorce you" X 03 times, there she is divorced. This is called Talaq in Islam. And what is more hilarious is when that man divorces his wife three times , then he cannot remarry her again unless some other man marry her and then sexually use her and then divorce her so that the first man can remarry the woman.  

Where is the respect & honor for women in Islam????

Dr.Chandima has just played to the tune of the Muslim dealer who has made the deal with her. This is just another propaganda attempt by the Muslims. 

She is blind for not seeing the utter failure of Islamic system, which she praised so much, in all the Islamic societies in this world. Has she seen the beauty of Islam in Iraq?? Has she seen the beauty of Islam in Syria??? Has she seen the beauty of Islam in Nigeria???? has she seen the beauty of Islam in Pakistan & Afghanistan??

We need Dr.Chandima to translate the below Sahada and let the Sinhala people know it's meaning in Sinhala launguage. 

La ilaha illallah, Mohammadur Rasulullah
Meaning : None has the right to be worshipped except Allah, (and I bear witness) that Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah.      

We are anxiously waiting for Dr.Chandima to translate below verses of Qur'an in to Sinhala language and show us the beauty of Islam. 

Qur’an 3:85

And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him. 

Qur’an 60:4        
Indeed there has been an excellent example for you (Muslims) in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people: "Verily, we are free from you..and whatever you worship besides Allah: we rejected you, and there has started between us and you, hostility and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone".

Qur’an 2:252 Foot Note (A.c.) of Noble Qur’aan
Mohammed declared that the war booty (i.e. Looted, Plundered & Robbed wealth from non-Muslims) has been made HALAL to him. 

Qur’an 78:33 – Verily, Allah will reward you with young full-breasted Black eyed, fair, virgins of equal age, with whom Muslims can have sex forever. 

Qur’an 3:151
We shall cast terror in to the hearts of those who disbelieve for they did not believe in Allah........

Qur’an 2:193
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah or and every kind of worship  of anything other than Allah) and until worship is only for Allah (Alone).

 

Qur’an 9:5
So when the sacred months have passed, then slay the Mushrikun (idolaters / Polytheits/ Buddhists / Hindus) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each & every ambush, then if they repent and perform prayer and pay Zakat (meaning if they agree to convert in to Islam), leave their way free“. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 

Quran Verse 13:41 

See they not that We gradually reduce the land (of the disbelievers), by giving it to the believers from it’s

outlying borders, And Allah Judges, there is none to put back His Judgment and He is Swift at reckoning.        

        

We are also waiting for Dr.Chandima to translate the below hadith and let us know the beauty of it.

Hadith-Shahih Bukhari 8:73:151 :
Narrated 'Aisha: Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet married me when I was six years old

 and I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter the house, they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me

Sahih al-Bukhari 1:2:24  - ( Mission statement of Mohammed)

Mohammed said “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say “La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah), and whoever said La ilaha illalaah, Allah will save his property and his life from me.” 

(Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220)

Mohamed boasted that "I have been made victorious through terror" 

I hope Dr.Chandima will feel herself standing naked in public once she realize the true nature of Islam. 

Mahesh Pathirana

 

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Zuhair <zuha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Brother Azward,

Salaams.

Thanks for the link. It is good Dr.Chandima is translating the Qur'an

and it would greatly help Sinhalese speaking Muslims and the rest to 

get a good translation for better understanding. 

It comes at a time when BBS Secretary General had appealed to the Bikkhus to probe the Qur'anic teachings. As we are a country  with

98% literacy rate things can not go that bad like Burma specially

at a time of more interactions between the temples and Mosque while

visits are reciprocated of each others places of worship.

If the trend is sustained and the Govt. take care of Majority concerns and institute regulatory systems to curtail what they see as threats 

by providing clear guidelines conduct of affairs of the minorities.

Wa Al Salaam

Muhammed Zuhair

On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Janaka Perera <sriyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Azward,

Can you send us the e-mail address Chandima Wijegunawardene - if you have it?   We have some questions to ask from her.

JP

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry the link was broken...re-sending....Starting after 1minute in SINHALA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsklEecJxyw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dr. Chandima Wijegunawardena, her views and experience about women & Islam and their dress code and status within Islam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsklEecJxyw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Mahesh

[niyas abbas]

My reply is to the three mahadena Mutthas, Chamila Waduge (I don't know how he is related to Shenali Waduge), Janka Perera & Mahesh Bawwa or Balla (whichever he chooses both means the same).

Chamila wrote his usual kunuharapa (Vulgar words). I don't know if he intended to defend Buddha and Buddhism with those words .... " Good luck chandima! Coz, you'll hardly get a chance to rest. Those brainless sex fanatic idiots are waiting queuing up for you." 

Then came the "wise" words from Janaka who pretends to write in a matured way ... "I wonder whether she (Chandima) will become one of the 72 virgins." In fact he wrote it sarcastically, forgetting the fact that Buddha too promised 550 virgins in heaven to a disciple but these virgins unfortunately are "Dove Footed". Thus, ignorantly this guy is really insulting Buddha. 

Then, Mahesh Goyya wrote his pukkali words "This woman, Dr.Chandima Wijegunawardana has simply done a pukkali service to the Muslims." He doesn't know by these words he flushes Buddhism down the drain. Moreover, he accuses his Buddhist sister of doing pukkali service for a payment. See how small he is. His brain is in the gutters. He also quotes false Hadith from his murtad masters who are considered by Muslims as friends of Satan.  

All these because Chandima, out of her respect and love for Buddha following his example, appreciated Islam and the Muslims with whom she had first hand experience for long periods. I am sure these vulgar Buddhists never had any Muslim friends except some drunkards. People like these three are really the cause of demise of original religion of Buddha. They are like the rudderless sinking boats. They have no goals in front of them. No respect for fellow beings. Sure they are drunkards. Yet they stupidly believe they are protecting Buddhism.

I have proved time and again that Buddha taught precepts that match very well with Islam. The five precepts and Eight Noble Path is very much in line with the teachings of our Beloved Prophet (S). Idol worship was alien to Buddha. Nowhere it is mentioned in your scriptures that Buddha ever raised his hands in front of statues to worship. But today your temples are filled with Hindu deities. Hindus frightened you and made you in to fools so that you will never ever remove those statues out of fear of reprisal from those lifeless gods and goddess. Now these fools say, we Muslims are fools not to allow any statues or even cartoons in front of our worship. They imply by this Buddha was not a wise man. 

Mahesh Goyya says Muslims are intolerant and becomes violent when cartoons are drawn or when someone writes books insulting our Prophet (S). And he boasts that his people don't reactt when someone insults Buddha and distorts Buddhism. He is rather ignorant that this attitude has preserved Islam and its scriptures in the purest form while Buddhism has gone in the path of extinction thru' corruption and deviation. The present day Buddhism is transformed in to a Pagan religion. Go to Kataragama and Devalayas and any temple for that matter ... it has transformed these places in to pagan worship.

Misbehaving Monks are quite common. Gnanasara is a super example. He broke all precepts ... He killed 4 Muslims at Aluthgama by leading the murderous mob. He took alcohol and was prosecuted in courts. He made his people to rob and loot innocent Muslims in Aluthgama and Beruwela. He incited people with lies and vulgar words to kill and set fire to Muslim homes and shops and maimed people. He destroyed Mosques. He didn't protest against the casino bill to be in goods books of corrupt high officials. Same with drug lords. So he is part of the evil traingle. 

 If this is the example of a practicing Buddhist Monk ... who wants to be part of that religion. And these three are no different either. Only choice a good Buddhist to practice Buddha's aspirations is through Islam.

[niyas abbas]

On Saturday, 30 August 2014, 1:53, niyas abbas <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Tell me which army went to Indonesia and Malaysia (and Sri Lanika or Maldives) to convert at the point of the sword ... Hundreds of millions embraced this great religion leaving their pagan belief ... There are no records in history of such armies but it tells of Arab and Muslim traders whose truthful, modest & humble behaviour on the guidelines of Quran and the examples of our Beloved Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) won hearts. This is why historians say Islam won hearts by the sword of the pen. The pen became more powerful than the sword when presenting Islam.  

Tell me man ... history and news depends on who writes it and who propagates it ... today the entire zionist controlled international media is biased against the spread of Islam. So show one Buddhist or a Buddhist monk who embraced Islam in Sri Lanka was forced. Bring proof ... we will return him to you. Are we Muslims so powerful that BBS, who destroyed Aluthgama, is so powerless to "save them"?

Victor too is writing here like the Mahadena Muttas ... where have you been incubating all these years .... You have become old and exhausted fighting a failed war with Islam. You are defending Mahesh who is the worst mutt in this forum.

Remember Islam is powered by the Lord of this Universe. He created you and me and every thing in this universe. He sustains it and monitors it. He will sure call you to account for your lies and hatred. And the the result will be "horrible" to you in the state you are in ... Buddha too confirmed this in Tripitaka... ie., if you believed in it. You need to accept Him as your Creator and Lord ... and obey His commands to the letter which is inscribed in His Book and He himself took the task of preserving it to the letter so that no one will have an excuse to say it is corrupted like your tripitaka or the Bible. Quran is un-corruptible. Because Allah took the task of protecting it Himself  "It is We who sent down this reminder (Quran) and We are its protectors". It stood the test for the past 1435 years and it has just ONE VERSION. 

It inscribes that if anyone kills one innocent human, he will make him inherit hell with the charge of having killed a whole humanity. It is such a Book of Justice. It has a formula .. DO NOT OPPRESS and DO NOT GET OPPRESSED. So there is permission to fight back oppression. This is what our fighter are doing today. If anyone accuses anyone of committing actions against this rule don't add the title of Islam to it. If American, British or Zionist forces enter an Islamic land to occupy and rape & kill its citizens don't expect them to receive them with bouquet of flowers.

In the on going war in Gaza your Yehudi friends killed thousands of innocent women and children yet the soldiers of Allah killed 65 soldiers only. Simply showing pictures of children and calling them Christian children being slaughtered by Muslims will not digest in the minds of the wise. 

CIA agent Malala was made a heroine by USA but ever since the same Americans have killed many Malalas on daily basis by their drone attacks .... why doesn't the same media show picture of fragmented bodies of those Malalas? Because this is the way they try to win the war against Islam. Lies lies and lies ...  But intelligent people keep entering Islam by seeing these lies. Thanks to BBS now Monks are reading the Quran like at no other times. They are truly amazed ... they blame us for hiding this treasure trove of information. This is Alalh's way of warning us of our negligence to pass His message to the Buddhists. Now Allah did it thru' Gnanasara Thero. "Allahu Khairul Maakireen" He is indeed the best of planners.

Thank you for reading thru' this whole writing. Embrace Islam and save your self from the punishment in Hell. Scrutinize the Quran and take your decisions. Do not see the actions of media actors of so called "Muslims" to Judge Islam. If we take Gnanasara or Wiratu as our example of a Buddhist ... O my God ... who will embrace Buddhism even Buddhists will take a flight to another world?

Victor .. over to you!

Niyas

On Friday, 29 August 2014, 14:04, Dr Victor Gunasekara <vgu...@uqconnect.net> wrote:

Mahesh Pathirana has given the full quotes from the Koran and his interpretation is correct. But Muslims today attach even more importance to the deeds of the Prophet Muhammad than to the ambiguous statements in the Koran.  In the dozen or so years after Muhammad assumed his rule, both military and civil, over his Muslim followers after his exile to Yatrib (Medina) he committed all those acts that we see today done by the Jihardists.  These are amply given not only in the Hadith but also in the writings of the Muslim historians and scholars.  I think more exposure should be given to these even more that to the statements in the Koran.

VG

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From: Chamila Waduge <chamil...@gmail.com>
Sent: 28 August 2014 22:31
To: Mahesh Pathirana
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Subject: Re: Dr. Chandima Wijegunawardena, views & experience about Islam include dress code

 

Well done Mahesh..!      Answer him Niyas.  if not you become just a dumb ass suicide bomber.

Nothing else they can do without picking up bits and pieces from Quran. Hatred & violence is everywhere in that outdated book of the suicide bombers.

Abubakar Bagdadi deserved to be the leader of the Muslims because he follows the Quran 100% 

These people in this forum never argue or reply straight honestly about the matters in Quran.  

They deserve to hit the head on the ground a few times a day. as they are useless.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Mahesh Pathirana <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Niyas the PIG, 

You proved again that you are a donkey and I knew very well as to how the Muslims would respond to my challenge and that is why I clearly told you NOT TO BRING PARTS OF VERSES . I think you Muslims must go back to your Mullas and tell the Mullas that now the non-Muslims have come to know all the tricks those Mullas have taught the Muslims and tell your Mullas to find some new tricks to cheat the non-Muslims. 

You Donkey, why did you hide the first part of that verse??? Here comes your verse in full form, including the first part that you were forced to hide from the public ( you knew that if you sent the full verse, it will look like your pant is removed and you will stand naked in front of us)   

Qur'an 5:32

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for spreading mischief in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.  And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

So Donkey in the right context, this message was not a divine command to the Muslims, but it was simply a recount of a rule that was given to the Jews. So, here "whoever" does not mean any one, "whoever" here means "any of the Jew". 

And look at the clause included in this verse, killing is allowed in case of spreading "mischief", what is this Mischief?? Mischief here is worshiping of any other god other than Allah, so murder is allowed if somebody had worshiped any god other than Allah. How merciful???

And any application to Muslims would have to apply only to Muslims - as in Muslim on Muslim murder within the brotherhood of believers.  In fact, the context of the verse is the murder of Abel by Cain.
Muhammad affirmed that while a Muslim may be punished with death for killing a fellow Muslim, they should never be slain for killing a non-believer. 

So it is well proved that the above verse is just a recount of some rule of the Jews and that the Verse in the Qur'an has not directly commanded it to the Muslims. 

Now if the Quran says that every life ( lives of anybody irrespective of their faith in any religion)  through 5:32, I bring you the verse 5:33 below, which reveals the true nature of Islam. 

Qur'an 5:33

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Then you explain how Islam has guided you to respect the human lives through the below verses. 

Qur’an 2:193
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah or and every kind of worship  of anything other than Allah) and until worship is only for Allah (Alone). 

Qur’an 9:5

So when the sacred months have passed, then slay the Mushrikun (idolaters / Polytheits/ Buddhists / Hindus) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each & every ambush, then if they repent and perform prayer and pay Zakat (meaning if they agree to convert to Islam), leave their way free“. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 

So, do not come with your half baked, deceitful outdated lies and deception. Come to us with more profession and logical answers..

Before I end my mail, I need to ask you and other Muslims , whether that "part of a verse" is the only "majestic Islamic Teachings" you could find in your whole Islam????

My challenge is still open for you Niyas Donkey and any other Muslim...  

Come to me with your "Islamic Teachings" , we need to see your "Islamic Teachings", make sure you don't bring parts and pieces of verses ( we need you to come with the complete verses) and also you bring the reference of the Qur'an & Hadith... whatever you proudly want to show us as your "Islamic teachings"

Hereafter we will not argue with you on any other matter, unless you first show us your Islamic teachings from the Qur'an & Hadiths / Sunnah ....of course with the correct references. 

Show us your Islamic teachings ....This is a challenge ..

Mahesh 

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM, niyas abbas <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Simple Mahesh Goyya ....

You asked a childish question .... "Show us your "Islamic Teachings" from the Qur'an," Read 5:32 If you kill one innocent human being, it is considered by Allah as if he killed a whole humanity. He will be punished in hell for this crime. So Gnanasara will be punished for 4 human generations for his murder of 4 innocent Muslims by hooligans under his command. That is one ... for his lying he will be punished over and above this ... for his destroying mosques and homes and shops ... wow ... you count his punishment ... what about his kasippu drinking habit ... and other crimes ... which you and I don't know ....

And Mahesh gona will keep company with him for sure ....

On Wednesday, 27 August 2014, 10:36, Mahesh Pathirana <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Azward, Niyas and any and all Muslims in this forum and people like Dr.Chandima, who talk things they do not know. 

The objective of our discussions must be to eradicate religious violence and hatred and any kind of destruction by the followers of one religion against the followers of anther religion. There is no pint of useless debates or arguments in religious matters if one party does not admit the truth the other party is proving. 

It is very clear to the whole world that ISIS ( now IS) is an Islamic organization which has threatened the peace of the whole world and most importantly they follow the path of Mohammed and the commands of Islam / Allah / Mohammed . 

When they massacre innocent people in Islamic countries by following the same path of Islam and Mohammed / Allah , Muslims living among us is trying to deceive us by claiming that IS is not Islamic and they are not Muslims etc..etc..

Now forget about IS. We request all the Muslims who present in this forum to do one simple thing.

Show us your "Islamic Teachings" from the Qur'an, Hadiths and Sunnah. We need to see how useful they are to the progress of this world and to the mankind and how useful they are to preserve peace and harmony among people of different faiths.

So, show us your teachings / verses / Commands with their respective references to these 03 sources (Qur'an, Hadiths and Sunnah) . 

Make sure you do not bring parts & portion of verses. 

Mahesh 

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

REPEAT...you are EITHER Naive or totally ignorant.... Therefore further discussion on this matter with you may be futile...Lets me use my  time a little more productivly

Regards

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Chamila Waduge <chamil...@gmail.com> wrote:

Azward,

As per the article you've attached, exactly world today needs is a new ISLAM. just crap that old outdated Koran. it's the crap that book contains of all extremism which makes Muslims hate others and try to destroy other societies. and also makes problems in Muslim society dividing them apart. and also makes others hate Muslims. 

Just Crap all the satanic verses from Koran. then there will be no room to make most Muslims terrorists anymore.

Try to accept human rights based legal system to govern the society meeting with everyone's requirements.

Just listen to John Lennon's "imagine" 

Takecare!

 

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chamila...Below is to re-clarify your ignorance...article by a non-muslim:

The new world order needs a new Islam

by Sandhya Jain

on 26 Aug 2014

http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=3309

The stunning success of the rabid Sunni group, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), in seizing territory in both nations since June calls for careful scrutiny to discern the reasons for its sudden comeback. Some events have occurred in rapid succession. First, terror was unleashed on‘Shia and other heretics’ and their holy sites destroyed. Second, its leader, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, proclaimed himself ‘caliph’ Ibrahim of an amorphous Islamic State. Third, photographs have surfaced of al-Baghdadi in the company of Arizona Senator John McCain (Guardian, Reuters and Der Spiegel report that ISIS was trained by American professionals for two years in Safawi, Jordan, with French and British advisors; McCain visited them here).

 

Fourth, after the beheading of American journalist James Foley, British authorities identified the killer as John from Tower Hamlets,RAED ON if interested....

http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=3309

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Azward Sulaiman <azw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Chamila,

Until this mail you wrote, I was under the impression that you were a  PARTIAL Islam basher.....now you are depicting that you are EITHER Naive or totally ignorant.

The whole world knows that ISIS / AlQaeda etc are organized by vested interest and this subject has been over-klled.

Rizana Nafeek ....No Srilanka muslim backed beheading of Rizana Nafeek....Many appealed for the fact that she was UNDER-AGED, besides the real story was not known. Besides the issue of Rizana , perse Capital punishment in Sri Lanka will be ONLY solution to combat all the DRUGS freely flowig in the country...NOw you can SCREAM...We don't need shariah!...My friend law similar to Shariah can be a solution to many issues we face in motherlanka.

Yes 83,was day light robbery by the goons in the name of protecting buddhism...same thing we saw in Aluthgama  in June 2014.

Whether we agree or NOT....every individual has some intelligence to rationalize what is right or what is wrong....Everything the media churns out is not the truth....Believe you understand this.

Regards

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Chamila Waduge <chamil...@gmail.com> wrote:

Azward, 

that Bagdadi label suits all the Muslims in Srilanka who backed beheading of Rizana Nafeek. They said they can't go against sharia law by protesting the verdict. it was not Gnanasara or Virathu who beheaded that poor girl.  Only Buddhists raised the voice against it. 

Gnanasara and Virathu are raising voices to protect the country from being invaded by muslims.

Those 88 or 83 were not religious riots. still nothing can be compared to bombings and mass killings going on in middle east everyday. thousands of muslims get killed, get robed and raped each and everyday by other muslims.

Don't blame the west for this menace.  

I don't want you to agree with me. you keep preaching ur blood thirsty god.

Tell me why both killer and the victim shout "Allaho akbar" when the murder is occurred? as u can see very very often.

 

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Zuhair <zuha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chamila, well said.

Those so called Muslims in Syria and Iraq (next will be Libya) practicing the Panchaseela same as the  Virathu, Rajakeeya Panditha Ghanasara and so called Buddhist who killed people in 1988/89  and 1983 in Sri Lanka.

List is too long to say how the Racist  and secularist manipulated the religions meet their own ends.

It is not correct to slander a respected educated women of high standing just because she holds an opposite view. In this respect Chamila looks like Abubaker Bagadadi of ISIS, who consider anyone opposes him is an enemy.

If you are a Buddhist have a look at this.

"Right Speech" in Noble Eightfold Path.

Either speak Dhamma, or keep noble silence: Udana 2.2

(The Udana, the third book of the Khuddaka Nikaya)

Have a nice day.

Regards

Zuhair

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Chamila Waduge <chamil...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes we often see these days how Muslims practice panchaseela in Iraq & Syria. Those purest blood thirsty ISIS Muslims are practicing all precepts. and what happened to Bamiyan Buddha statues? that's how muslims respect other religions.

And we know how Muslim countries treat non muslims in those places. Just blood thirsty idiots.. you all will be sucking blood of each other Shias & Sunnis, just to have pleasure in Haven with women like Chandima.

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Mahesh Bawwa,

You are calling me a Pig but do you know that PIG is far better than you and me! A Pig has no chance of going to hell. Yet if I call you a pig I will be insulting the whole piggery world. Now let us forgot who I am ... pig or fool or idiot or gonbass or whatever and focus on the subject professionally. 

Now read this well my brother - Under Islam the murder of one son of Adam Habil  by the other son Qabil makes Qabil inherit the sins of all murders committed on innocent by humans until end of this world. Same with the Jews in 5:32 ... and it applies to Muslims of today too ... and you being an un-believer, are not exempted from this rule either. Gnanasara and his hooligan gangsters will take responsibility for the FOUR innocent lives taken on that fateful June 15th carnage at Aluthgama. There  is no escape for him, unless he embraces Islam and repents to Allah.

Jewish stories mentioned in the Quran are not for the Jews but they are lessons and warnings to the Muslims. ie., "If you do the same mistakes We (Allah) will punish you the way We (Allah) punished the Jews." Man ... remember Quran is for Muslims not for the Jews.

I don't blame you for wrongly interpreting the Quran. You are bound to do it for two reasons ...    1. Ignorance 2. Your evil motive to tarnish Islam with any lies.  

The sad part is that you have never tried to explain to us Buddhism and prove me wrong with citations from your scripture as we do. We always respond to you professionally and respectfully to your allegations from references from our scriptures and yours and we often proved the excellence of original Buddhism and Islam. But while doing this we have never downgraded Buddhism or its author Buddha in anyway. I always uphold the teachings of Buddha and give great respect for his stature. As Muslims we are not permitted to insult a personality like Buddha unlike you people who spill filth out of your mouths against our Beloved Prophet (S) who is considered by friends and fore alike as The Greatest Human to have set foot on this earth.. This is the difference between us and you. This is why Buddhism is on the path of Demise and Islam is on the path of nobility. People flock to Islam and Gnanasara & Wiratu are trying hard to stop this tide. But their behaviour methodology adopted sends out pungent smell of Buddhism. Nowadays Buddhists seems to look for salvation elsewhere, Islam and Christianity. Decent & humble Monks are embarrassed by his fiery filthy speeches.  

But you and all your friends (including Shamika, Victor, Sachitra, Shenali considered somewhat knowledgeable ) get scared when I write good about Buddha and Buddhism. They see it as BAD and dangerous. They think that if they appreciate my writing, then, many Buddhists may use the facility of Islam to practice Buddhism, envisaged by Buddha 2500 years ago. They know very well that when they do this:

1. They will easily get rid of intentions to kill minorities.(Pāṇātipātā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi)
2. Avoid looting of Muslim shops and homes as they did in Aluthgama & avoid looting of national wealth (Adinnādānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi) 
3. Refrain from any form of premarital sex or commit adultery (Kāmesumicchācāra veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.)
4. Completely stop lying from platforms against Islam and Muslims (Musāvādā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.)
5. And simply and easily achieve the most detrimental impossible task of getting rid of age old kassipu habits. (Surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.)
   

Even many Buddhist monks break all these five precepts on daily basis.

In addition to these you will also shed your low caste labels hung around your necks and will join the only available caste. ie., The Super Caste. Your women folk will dress exactly according to :

Anguttara Nikàya 1. Ekakanipàta I. Cittapariyadana Vagga

In this situation Buddha will be the happiest person about the right choice of his disciples.

I hope I explained your points well. Please respond if you need more information.

Niyas

. 

On Thursday, 28 August 2014, 14:41, Mahesh Pathirana <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Niyas the PIG, 

You proved again that you are a donkey and I knew very well as to how the Muslims would respond to my challenge and that is why I clearly told you NOT TO BRING PARTS OF VERSES . I think you Muslims must go back to your Mullas and tell the Mullas that now the non-Muslims have come to know all the tricks those Mullas have taught the Muslims and tell your Mullas to find some new tricks to cheat the non-Muslims. 

You Donkey, why did you hide the first part of that verse??? Here comes your verse in full form, including the first part that you were forced to hide from the public ( you knew that if you sent the full verse, it will look like your pant is removed and you will stand naked in front of us)   

Qur'an 5:32

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for spreading mischief in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.  And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

So Donkey in the right context, this message was not a divine command to the Muslims, but it was simply a recount of a rule that was given to the Jews. So, here "whoever" does not mean any one, "whoever" here means "any of the Jew". 

And look at the clause included in this verse, killing is allowed in case of spreading "mischief", what is this Mischief?? Mischief here is worshiping of any other god other than Allah, so murder is allowed if somebody had worshiped any god other than Allah. How merciful???

And any application to Muslims would have to apply only to Muslims - as in Muslim on Muslim murder within the brotherhood of believers.  In fact, the context of the verse is the murder of Abel by Cain.
Muhammad affirmed that while a Muslim may be punished with death for killing a fellow Muslim, they should never be slain for killing a non-believer. 

So it is well proved that the above verse is just a recount of some rule of the Jews and that the Verse in the Qur'an has not directly commanded it to the Muslims. 

Now if the Quran says that every life ( lives of anybody irrespective of their faith in any religion)  through 5:32, I bring you the verse 5:33 below, which reveals the true nature of Islam. 

Qur'an 5:33

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Then you explain how Islam has guided you to respect the human lives through the below verses. 

Qur’an 2:193
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah or and every kind of worship  of anything other than Allah) and until worship is only for Allah (Alone). 

Qur’an 9:5

Regards

Zuhair

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[Abdeen]

Mr.Niyas Abbas,

Assalamualaikum,

Please read and understand and try to refrain from this type of mails which is going public.You are trying to protect Islam, leave this to Allah. Otherwise resort to person to person mail only.

They are calling you names such as : Pig, Donkey, half baked, deceitful, outdated lier and deception, dumb ass suicide bomber etc.,

 Disparaging remarks you make against our community are: Today our community is involved mostly in in-fighting. We are the comedians among the Non-Muslim community whether in parliament or outside. Our community members are engaged in illegal trades and actions. Best form of Da'wa is not the thousands of words we spill out but the modesty of behaviour and etiquette that we display in front of humanity. And so on.

Today you have come out with another new unauthenticated story:Under Islam the murder of one son of Adam Habil  by the other son Qabil makes Qabil inherit the sins of all murders committed on innocent by humans until end of this world.!

6:108-Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did. 936

Item (4) above,  is really meant for you. – to combat what is wrong and cannot be mended: all for the purpose of leading to the truth and gradually letting in spiritual light where there was darkness before. If that is not done with discretion and the skill of a spiritual Teacher, there may be not only a reaction  of obstinacy, but an unseemly show of dishonor to the true God and His Truth, and doubts would spread among the weaker brethren whose faith is shallow and infirm.  What happens to individuals is true collectively of nations or groups of people. They think in their self obsession that their own ideas are right.God in His infinite  compassion bears with them, and asks those who are purer ideas of faith not to vilify the weaknesses of their neighbours, lest the neighbours in their turn  vilify the real truth and make matters  even worse than before. In so far as there is active evil, He will deal with it in His own way.  Ofcourse the righteous man must not hide his light under a bushel, or compromise with evil, or refuse to establish right living, where he has the power to do so.

5:77-Say: "O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper) trespassing beyond the truth nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by who misled many and strayed (themselves) from the even way. 785

Done in good faith.

abdeen

 

 

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Subject: HalaalSL ► Re: Dr. Chandima Wijegunawardena, views & experience about Islam include dress code

 

Mahesh Bawwa,

 

You are calling me a Pig but do you know that PIG is far better than you and me! A Pig has no chance of going to hell. Yet if I call you a pig I will be insulting the whole piggery world. Now let us forgot who I am ... pig or fool or idiot or gonbass or whatever and focus on the subject professionally. 

 

Now read this well my brother - Under Islam the murder of one son of Adam Habil  by the other son Qabil makes Qabil inherit the sins of all murders committed on innocent by humans until end of this world. Same with the Jews in 5:32 ... and it applies to Muslims of today too ... and you being an un-believer, are not exempted from this rule either. Gnanasara and his hooligan gangsters will take responsibility for the FOUR innocent lives taken on that fateful June 15th carnage at Aluthgama. There  is no escape for him, unless he embraces Islam and repents to Allah.

 

Jewish stories mentioned in the Quran are not for the Jews but they are lessons and warnings to the Muslims. ie., "If you do the same mistakes We (Allah) will punish you the way We (Allah) punished the Jews." Man ... remember Quran is for Muslims not for the Jews.

 

I don't blame you for wrongly interpreting the Quran. You are bound to do it for two reasons ...    1. Ignorance 2. Your evil motive to tarnish Islam with any lies.  

 

The sad part is that you have never tried to explain to us Buddhism and prove me wrong with citations from your scripture as we do. We always respond to you professionally and respectfully to your allegations from references from our scriptures and yours and we often proved the excellence of original Buddhism and Islam. But while doing this we have never downgraded Buddhism or its author Buddha in anyway. I always uphold the teachings of Buddha and give great respect for his stature. As Muslims we are not permitted to insult a personality like Buddha unlike you people who spill filth out of your mouths against our Beloved Prophet (S) who is considered by friends and fore alike as The Greatest Human to have set foot on this earth.. This is the difference between us and you. This is why Buddhism is on the path of Demise and Islam is on the path of nobility. People flock to Islam and Gnanasara & Wiratu are trying hard to stop this tide. But their behaviour methodology adopted sends out pungent smell of Buddhism. Nowadays Buddhists seems to look for salvation elsewhere, Islam and Christianity. Decent & humble Monks are embarrassed by his fiery filthy speeches.  

 

But you and all your friends (including Shamika, Victor, Sachitra, Shenali considered somewhat knowledgeable ) get scared when I write good about Buddha and Buddhism. They see it as BAD and dangerous. They think that if they appreciate my writing, then, many Buddhists may use the facility of Islam to practice Buddhism, envisaged by Buddha 2500 years ago. They know very well that when they do this:

1.     They will easily get rid of intentions to kill minorities.(Pāṇātipātā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi)

2.     Avoid looting of Muslim shops and homes as they did in Aluthgama & avoid looting of national wealth (Adinnādānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi) 

3.     Refrain from any form of premarital sex or commit adultery (Kāmesumicchācāra veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.)

4.     Completely stop lying from platforms against Islam and Muslims (Musāvādā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.)

5.     And simply and easily achieve the most detrimental impossible task of getting rid of age old kassipu habits. (Surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.)

Regards

 

Zuhair

 

 

 

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[niyas abbas]

Buddha didn't go anywhere ... his soul is preserved by Allah and hopefully Allah will let his soul know that thousands of his disciples are leaving paganism and  are now joining the right way. This trend will speed up, thanks to Gnanasara. In one of his lectures to a large crowd of monks he was insisting that they all should read the Quran. Now copies of Quran is running out of stock. 

One of our Daa'i's (preachers) told us yesterday  that one Monk he met recently wanted him to download Surah Ar Rahmaan Ch 55 to his mobile. When he asked why, he said, "Whenever, I feel troubled, I listen to it and I achieve tranquility, though I don't understand a word of it" He said he had it before and it got deleted. I wish he gave him a copy of the Sinhala translation of the Quran to read the meaning of Ar Rahmaan. It is indeed one of the most beautiful of Surahs in the Quran.  I can gurantee that if he will read it with sincerity by the time he finishes reading it, insha Allah, he will be a Muslim. Every Buddhist should read it. 

If you have the courage you can listen to this most beautiful recital with animation and translation. If you do, you will see why we Muslims are so obsessed with this Book.. 

Just click here and see the beauty go thru' the whole recital, its not long sure you will enjoy it .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aGyhiPA8hU 

It's so cooling .... May Alalh grant this peace to all our Non-Muslim brothers and sisters including our writers here who out of ignorance have been insulting these beautiful words .... 

Niyas

On Sunday, 31 August 2014, 4:51, Janaka Perera <sriyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

“In this situation Buddha will be the happiest person about the right choice of his disciples”.

 

Ha ha ha, How can the Buddha be happiest when he does not exist?  He passed away over 2500 years ago.

[Abdeen]

From the Qur’an-KAFIROON

109:1-Say: O ye that reject Faith!

109:2-I worship not that which ye worship

109:3-Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109:4-And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship

109:5-Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109:6-To you be your Way and to me mine

mßÉfþoh 109: w,a ld*srEka ^m%;slafIam lrkakka&

wiSñ; ohdj yd wiuiu wkqlïmdfjka hq;= w,a,dyaf.a kdufhka

1-6' ^kìfhaæ m%;slafIam lrk ulaldjdiSkag& Tn fufia mjikq(

m%;slafIam lrkafkksæ Tn kuÈk ±h ud kuÈkafka ke;' ud

kuÈk ;eke;a;d Tn keuÿfõ ke;' ^tA wkaougu& ñka miqjo"

Tn kuÈk ±h ud kuÈkafkl= fkdj' ud kuÈkakdg ñka miqj

Tn kuÈkakka fkdj' Tnf.a ^wmrdOhkag wh;a& M,úmdl

Tng;a" uf.a ^l%shdjkag wh;a& M,úmdl ug;a ,efnkafkah'

abdeen

 

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Subject: Re: HalaalSL ► Re: Dr. Chandima Wijegunawardena, views & experience about Islam include dress code

 

If Niyas thinks he is ‘protecting’ Islam it is his business. What gets our goat is his attempt to teach us Buddhism!

 

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Chamila Waduge <chamil...@gmail.com> wrote:

On a recent TV program, a group of girls were interviewed here in Australia.

Those girls refused to wear the burca or scarf against the will of there parents.

 

Apparently, what those girls (including a law graduate) claimed, one of the reasons was

"people come to a pre assumption that they are stupid and uneducated when ever they happened to go to other places or meet with strangers. And sometimes people are trying to ignore and avoid talking to them which a massive disadvantage for the carrier development.

 

i think it's fare enough for those girls to think like that, seeing the conflicts and restrictions for human rights in Muslim community.

In Sydney those devisions of Muslims have already started bloody violence.

( Search for: "Today tonight - troubled sydney suberbs") 

 

Regards!

 

 

 

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[Abdeen]

From the Qur’an-KAFIROON

109:1-Say: O ye that reject Faith!

109:2-I worship not that which ye worship

109:3-Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109:4-And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship

109:5-Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109:6-To you be your Way and to me mine

mßÉfþoh 109: w,a ld*srEka ^m%;slafIam lrkakka&

wiSñ; ohdj yd wiuiu wkqlïmdfjka hq;= w,a,dyaf.a kdufhka

1-6' ^kìfhaæ m%;slafIam lrk ulaldjdiSkag& Tn fufia mjikq(

m%;slafIam lrkafkksæ Tn kuÈk ±h ud kuÈkafka ke;' ud

kuÈk ;eke;a;d Tn keuÿfõ ke;' ^tA wkaougu& ñka miqjo"

Tn kuÈk ±h ud kuÈkafkl= fkdj' ud kuÈkakdg ñka miqj

Tn kuÈkakka fkdj' Tnf.a ^wmrdOhkag wh;a& M,úmdl

Tng;a" uf.a ^l%shdjkag wh;a& M,úmdl ug;a ,efnkafkah'

abdeen

 

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Subject: Re: HalaalSL ► Re: Dr. Chandima Wijegunawardena, views & experience about Islam include dress code

 

On a recent TV program, a group of girls were interviewed here in Australia.

Those girls refused to wear the burca or scarf against the will of there parents.

 

Apparently, what those girls (including a law graduate) claimed, one of the reasons was

"people come to a pre assumption that they are stupid and uneducated when ever they happened to go to other places or meet with strangers. And sometimes people are trying to ignore and avoid talking to them which a massive disadvantage for the carrier development.

 

i think it's fare enough for those girls to think like that, seeing the conflicts and restrictions for human rights in Muslim community.

In Sydney those devisions of Muslims have already started bloody violence.

( Search for: "Today tonight - troubled sydney suberbs") 

 

Regards!

 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Abdeen <abde...@sltnet.lk> wrote:

[niyas abbas]

On Friday, 5 September 2014, 0:21, niyas abbas <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

DAYA MAKES AN ISSUE WITH A MUSLIM GETTING CAUGHT WITH LIQUOR ...

Daya and Mahesh ...... for you people, whiskey is a heavenly drink .... it is available everywhere in this so called "holy Buddhist" land.... Without people like Rizvan you will be missing the high quality stuff.  Yet as Muslims are concerned high quality whiskey is no different to  Arakku and kassippu, found in bars around  your temples, hospitals and schools ... now our Buddhist govt, using their "great" wisdom decided to have Arakku shops in the villages so that your people will not booze on "salary day" in the city and fall in the drains and let somebody loot their whole salary. Now they can go to their village, booze  and safely "crawl" to their homes. A great idea. So what mistake has Rizvan done in your eyes?

No! Muslims have no use for such kasippu dens .... nor the HQ whiskey which Rizvan supplies ....  This Rizvan guy ... if it is true, that he did this filthy business, should never be allowed to get out of the jail. He should be treated with Shariah punishment so that other such Rizvans will never dream of doing such dirty business. Ofcourse as the news reads, his clients are obviously people in high places, such as, parliament, Police, high Officials etc. Sure they are not Muslims. Our concern and anger is, how can this man, being a Muslim, commit such a crime destroying Buddhist families, by his "legal" business (I mean Alcohol is not banned in SL like in Arabia). Its inexcusable, this man must be subjected to Shariah punishment. This is the way you can save your society. If orders come from high places and set them free, as always happen with drug dealers, don't blame us. He brings these because you buy it. Butcher slaughters cows because you eat it. Simple logic.

DayaH ... thank you for the article. Bring us more where Muslims are the culprit. Let us expose their identity and let our community boycott and spit on their face. So that they will not do it again and other Muslims will think ten times before they start such a business.

Now coming to Mahesh's wisdom ... I will take just one .... This guy says .... "The first verse 2:219 simply says Alcohol has BENEFITS and sin both. And the verse has not forbidden the alcohol."

He didn't know the context to these versus .... This verse continues to say " ... sin is greater than the benefit (in Alcohol)"

Let me give you an example. Knife too has benefits and sins ... Benefit - you can cut the bread. Sins - you can kill a man. Allah says in the knife benefit is greater than sin. Therefore knife is permitted to use. Alcohol is prohibited. 

Mahesh is right .... Pre Islamic Arabs were the worst drunks. They were drunk 24x7. Buddhist drunkards will be in the shade compared to them... Islam came and eradicated it gradually forever ... Let me explain .... it was unimaginable ..... initially people prayed while they were drunk ... their faith was not strong ... then when they gained momentum in faith first step came... 4:43 "O' you who believe, approach not prayers while in the state of intoxication ..." . 

So the believers immediately responded, I am sure the Buddhist knows very well how hard it would be for him ... Their faith in Allah, made them stop drinking some time before prayer time approached. After a while when they happily adopted this ... verse 2:219 was revealed, "They ask thee(O, Muhammad) concerning intoxicants and gambling, say in them are great sins and some benefit but sin is greater than benefit...." Still Alcohol was not banned per'se as Mahesh claims. But they are groomed for the big event in history of sobriety.

By the way our Prophet never ever tasted alcohol in his life time. In fact no Prophet did it. Not even Buddha. He banned alcohol as all prophets did. He made it the fifth precept ... though rarely a Buddhist respects it.

Then came the final death blow to Satan, in 5:90 "O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination, of Satan's handwork, avoid such (abomination), that ye may prosper." 

When this verse was revealed in Madina, word went around like wildfire that Allah revealed a verse PROHIBITING alcohol .... When the Muslim heard this ... Instantly emptied the container he raised to drink ... Ones who already had it in their mouth spat it out as if they had poison in their mouth. Such was the success. That day the drains in Madina carried the burden of intoxicants for the last time as if there was flash floods. This addiction was wiped out by Islam in an instant in this manner never to return as a habit in Islamic society so much so we are titled with Sober Society. When the Arabs threw their stocks of intoxicants, it was not the fear of punishment that kindled them to do so but their extreme love and respect for the words of Allah. It was as if every letter of the Revelation ran in their blood. 

This is the way Allah prepared them step by step and then when the right time came HE issued the command. Subhanallah - Glory be to Allah! SO the lies of Mahesh is exposed. This proof alone should be sufficient for a wise Buddhist to embrace the fifth precept of Buddha thru' Islam  Surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi ..... I undertake the training rule to abstain from fermented drink that causes heedlessness. 

Laws of punishments came later when new Muslims started flocking to Islam with weak faith. Even today with such easy access to alcohol in Sri Lanka very few Muslims, perhaps <1%, consume it. That too because of influence of friendship with alcoholic non-Muslims. If Alcohol consumption in Arabia has increased it is because of the large non-Muslim populations moving in there to get benefits of the lucrative job opportunities. Yes, there are a few Muslims ... but they are insignificant. For your information most kasippu makers in Arabia are Sri Lankan Buddhists. We see them in news papers often taken for imprisonment.

WINE IN HEAVEN

Mahesh talks of "wine" in heaven. Yes these are not intoxicants but a delicious drink that doesn't make you dazed and doesn't cause you to argue or become violent like the drunkards of this world. No chance for beating their companions.  It doesn't make you sweat nor calls you to use the toilet. One will hear only exchange of Peace. You should all try to achieve that fete by embracing the truth. Follow the Five Precepts Buddha preached for you. If you did, you will be just like an ordinary Muslim.

Thank you Mahesh Goyya for making my task easy by gathering all Quranic references in to your writing. I hope the other readers will benefit from my writing. If so please do write back. I am not expecting any acknowledgment from these foolish people like Mahesh, Daya etc.. In fact they are an asset for me. For they give me the opportunity to explain Islam to other wise readers.

Muslims should copy the portion I wrote on prohibition of intoxicants and preserve it so that when Mahesh and the likes bring the same allegations once again as they always do, you can copy and paste these answers in order that you save much time.

No Buddhist should consider my writing as insult to them. My intention is never that. I respect Buddha and his teachings as I always stand.

Niyas

On Thursday, 4 September 2014, 16:28, Mahesh Pathirana <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Niyas Abbas, 

Nobody is wondering why Islam has forbidden alcohol, Niyas Gon bas,  because, Allah HAS NEVER FORBIDDEN alcohol. I challenge you , you show me any verse in the Qur'an which has "Forbidden" alcohol. You can't... and Allah has not forbidden Alcohol...

Just look t the three Qur'anic verses you have brought us Donkey. None of these verses has "forbidden" alcohol. The first verse 2:219 simply says Alcohol has BENEFITS and sin both. And the verse has not forbidden the alcohol. Then verse 5:90 is telling that it is a hand work of Satan, yet the verse has not "forbidden" alcohol. WHY????

The reason is that Mohammed and Muslims were actually drunkards and they used to drink Alcohol in barrels. 

Look Niyas, you can't deceive the world with your lies any longer. 

And if you call these Qur'anic verses have "forbidden" alcohol (when actually no words included in these verses forbidding alcohol), you can consider now Sri Lanka has banned Cigarettes completely , simply because now the government has brought a severe warning against smoking.  

Below are the proofs, 

Sahih Muslim – Hadith # 3753

Narrated by Gaber bin Abdulla:
We were with the messenger of Allah (PBUH) and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: “Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?” He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out for looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace be upon him) asked: “Have you fermented it, even with one piece of ferment?”. He (Gaber) said “yes” and he (Muhammed) said "Alla O Akbar" and drank.

 

Qur’an 4:43''Do not approach prayers while you are drunk'' 

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 324:

Narrated Ali:

I got a she-camel in my share of the war booty on the day (of the battle) of Badr, and the Prophet had given me a she-camel from the Khumus. When I intended to marry Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle, I had an appointment with a goldsmith from the tribe of Bani Qainuqa' to go with me to bring Idhkhir (i.e. grass of pleasant smell) and sell it to the goldsmiths and spend its price on my wedding party. I was collecting for my she-camels equipment of saddles, sacks and ropes while my two she-camels were kneeling down beside the room of an Ansari man. I returned after collecting whatever I collected, to see the humps of my two she-camels cut off and their flanks cut open and some portion of their livers was taken out. When I saw that state of my two she-camels, I could not help weeping. I asked, "Who has done this?" The people replied, "Hamza bin Abdul Muttalib who is staying with some Ansari drunks in this house." I went away till I reached the Prophet and Zaid bin Haritha was with him. The Prophet noticed on my face the effect of what I had suffered, so the Prophet asked. "What is wrong with you." I replied, "O Allah's Apostle! I have never seen such a day as today. Hamza attacked my two she-camels, cut off their humps, and ripped open their flanks, and he is sitting there in a house in the company of some drunks." The Prophet then asked for his covering sheet, put it on, and set out walking followed by me and Zaid bin Haritha till he came to the house where Hamza was. He asked permission to enter, and they allowed him, and they were drunk. Allah's Apostle started rebuking Hamza for what he had done, but Hamza was drunk and his eyes were red. Hamza looked at Allah's Apostle and then he raised his eyes, looking at his knees, then he raised up his eyes looking at his umbilicus, and again he raised up his eyes look in at his face. Hamza then said, "Aren't you but the slaves of my father?" Allah's Apostle realized that he was drunk, so Allah's Apostle retreated, and we went out with him.

Now look Niyas, your Allah has NOT FORBIDDEN ALCOHOL, that is why many Muslims drink Alcohol, what's more.........Allah has even included ALCOHOL as a STARTER in his main menu for the Muslims in the Heaven... 

Qur’an 52:23 – There they shall pass from hand to hand a wine cup

Qur’an 78:34 – And a full cup of wine

Qur’an 76:17 –

 And they will be given to drink there of a cup of Wine mixed with Ginger

And remember, your Allah has included ever-young white boys with Pearl like anuses after dinner for you Muslims in Allah's Sex Paradise...

Qur’an 76:19 –

And round about them will boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would

think them scattered Pearls.

So, drink some Alcohol and then have a young boy tonight.......you Muslim Sex maniac 

Mahesh 

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:35 AM, niyas abbas <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Any wonder why Islam forbids alcohol?

A man was once asked why he did not drink, and he replied, 'By God, I am not happy with my mind when it is sound, so why should I corrupt it even further?' - The Seventy-seven Branches of Faith - Imam Al-Bayhaqi, The Quillian Press - (1996, ISBN 1 872038 03 4) - Page 31

Alcohol is detrimental to your health especially your liver. Alcohol befogs the mind and prevents rational thinking. Alcohol causes road accidents and innocent lives lost. Alcohol increases the occurance of domestic violence. Alcohol addiction causes financial ruin.

The Holy Quran, 2.219: They ask thee concerning wine and gambling. Say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider.

The Holy Quran, 5.90: O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination, - of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination) , that ye may prosper.

The Holy Quran, 5.91: Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?

Many of grow up in societies where drinking is second nature to most people. Alcohol is staple in some societies, among an increasing number of people. It is also becoming an irreplaceable component of "having fun" and partying. No get together seems complete without alcohol. Tequila shots over the bar counter, vodka and vodka lime for beginners.

"Let's go have fun tonight" is being replaced by "Let's go get pissed drunk tonight."

It can be difficult to deal with an environment where peer pressure is overpowering - which is almost always is. But consider this: Drunk people embarrass themselves in public and in front of friends. They have little control their actions or their words. One friend of mine nearly died because he walked onto a busy street in his drunken stupor. Another friend was raped by her boyfriend while she was asleep/hungover.

You have a million reasons to stop drinking - not just for yourself but for your friends and family...and especially the innocent stranger who might get hurt by your actions during a drunken stupor. You'll feel healthier - it's a guarantee and you'll save money to do other cool stuff.

God gives us instructions because He is All Knowing. Everything in Islam has a practical and healthy reason behind it..some of which we are aware of and others we're not but they're for our own good. God says in the Holy Quran - there is some good in alcohol but the bad outweighs the good.

Related Readings:

About Alcohol The American Scene And The Islamic Perspective So drunk, she does not recall the tragedy One glass too many My Friend Drinks Want a Baby? Say NO to Drinks! Islamic & Christians Perspectives Compared Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) Nat'l Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependance

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TRUTH HAS COME AND FALSEHOOD HAS VANISHED

"Invite (all) to the way of the Lord With wisdom and Beautiful preaching And argue with them in ways that are Best and most gracious"


Peace Be Upon All Of You

On Tuesday, 2 September 2014, 19:28, Zuhair <zuha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dr. Daya is perfectly correct. Though not sure about the sources.

And, the statistics from US, the largest boozer and sex trader excluded 

our learned  Dr. for some unknown reason.

With the increasing influx of of Non-Muslims migrating to the MENA and tourism boom has increased the Alcohol consumption. In the six countries of the Gulf  more than 50% of the residence are not Muslims.

This does n't mean anyway in countries like  Sri Lanka, Thailand and other non-Muslim countries are on a decrease in consume of alcohol.

We believe these are signs of beginning of the end.

Regards

Zuhair

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Daya Hewapathirane <daya.hewa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Alcohol use in predominantly Muslim regions of the world increased by 25 percent between 2005 and 2010.

 

Statistics provided by research group Euromonitor International reported a constant increase in the use of alcohol in several countries where the Muslim religion, which prohibits the use of any product capable of affecting behaviour (drugs included), is dominant. Quoting the survey, Le Monde reported that between 2005 and 2010 the average consumption by the French dropped from 104.2 litres of alcohol per year to 96.7, while in the same period in the Middle East and Africa area it increased by 25%, from 11.7 billion litres to 15.2 billion.

 

 

“The Gulf is an important market for us to continue growing,” said Jane Ewing, Diageo’s general manager for the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region. The London-based maker of Johnnie Walker whisky and Smirnoff vodka posted a 16 per cent rise in regional net sales last year [2010] and expects sales to double in the next five years in the MENA region. The Gulf Arab region alone accounted for 44 per cent of Diageo’s total sales in MENA, with the United Arab Emirates and Lebanon being its two largest markets.

 

 

According to the study [cited by the Alriyadyh Arabic language daily], Arab countries spend more than $10 billion on Viagra and other anti-impotence medicines every year and that Saudi Arabia [ranked sixth largest consumer of sex drugs] alone spends over $1.5 billion [10 times more than Russia although the population in Russia is more than 10 times the Saudis]. It is followed by Egypt and the UAE, which spend about $one billion and $500 million respectively.

 

2012 study finds alcohol consumption has nearly doubled in the Muslim world between 2001 and 2011, and the rise in alcohol-sales is “unlikely to be accounted for by non-Muslims and foreigners alone.” In fact, Muslims have played a “direct” role in the rise of alcohol consumption, and drinking alcohol is “becoming a common part of many lives in the Islamic world.”

 

While alcohol consumption is supposedly forbidden, the Muslim world has seen nearly double the increase in alcohol consumption in the past decade, according to a new study.

Across the Islamic world, The Economist magazine said, consumption is on the rise, with an increase of some 72 percent between 2001 and 2011.

“I believe it 100 percent,” said Egyptian lawyer Ahmed, who regularly joins his friends at a bar after work for a beer.

“We just like to enjoy ourselves and this whole religion thing has not been something that hinders us,” he told Bikyamasr.com.

 

Surprisingly, the Islamic world’s increase in boozing has been as the rest of the world has only grown in its alcohol consumption by some 30 percent.

The magazine, in its report on the new figures, said that the “rise [in alcohol-sales in the Middle East] is unlikely to be accounted for by non-Muslims and foreigners alone.”

 

Muslims are just as likely to partake in drinking as their non-Muslim counterparts. Granted, there are some Muslims who maintain abstinence to drinking, but the magazine and others believe Muslims have had a direct role in the rise of alcohol.

 

Although a taboo in many Muslim countries, more so in places like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Pakistan where it is legally banned, drinking is still commonplace.

 

In other places, such as Lebanon, Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia and Egypt it is legal to consume alcohol and bars are often crowded.
. . .

While there are some countries where drinking is lower, overall drinking is becoming a common part of many lives in the Islamic world, from Morocco to Indonesia.

According to the UN's Office on Drugs and Crime, in 2009 over 23.6 tons of fake Captagon were seized in the Middle East.

 

Europe

Turkish criminal groups facilitate the trafficking of heroin from Afghanistan, the largest opium–producing country in the world, to Europe. In 2009, it was reported that the heroin supply to Europe was controlled by 138 Turkish networks. Europol stated in its 2011 Organised Crime Threat Assessment report that:

The majority of illicit heroin entering the EU continues to be sourced from Afghanistan via Turkey and the Balkans ...

Turkish and Albanian-speaking criminal groups remain the most prominent in trafficking heroin to and within the EU.

 

Turks are controlling major part of the black drug market in Europe - about 93%. The reports of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime says 110 tons of heroine entered Europe in 2009, while 80% came by a route lying through Turkey.

 

Afghanistan

Afghanistan, as of March 2010, is the largest illicit opium producer of the world, ahead of Burma, and Pakistan has a clinical role to play in this statistic.

In 2007, Afghanistan produced an extraordinary 8,200 tonnes of opium (34% more than in 2006), becoming practically the exclusive supplier of the world’s deadliest drug (93% of the global opiates market), according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) Afghanistan Opium Survey 2007.

Being one of the world’s largest opium and heroin producer, the labour demand needed to cater to this extensive poppy harvesting and cultivation is met in an invariably peculiar way.

Hundreds of madrassa students from Chaman and adjoining tribal regions of Balochistan are engaged by Afghan farmers for poppy cultivation in Afghanistan’s two major heroin-producing provinces of Helmand and Kandahar for the past three months.
. . .

A 2007 UN report revealed that leaving aside 19th century China, which had a population at that time 15 times larger than today’s Afghanistan, no other country in the world had ever produced narcotics on such a deadly scale.^[11]

August 2011

The UNODC says Afghanistan has around one million heroin and opium addicts out of a population of 30 million, making it the world's top user per capita.

No estimates are available on how many women are addicted to opium or heroin. Nejat estimates around 60,000 women in Afghanistan regularly take illegal drugs, including hashish and marijuana
. . .
Afghanistan's female narcotics problem is now filling the country's largest women's prison, Badam Bagh or "Almond Orchard", on the outskirts of Kabul.

Of its 164 inmates, 64 are opium and heroin users, double what it was when the clinic started in 2008

 

 

Viagra, a well-known erectile dysfunction drug, has long been in demand in the country.
. . .

According to the BBC, up to 2 million pills can be legally imported into Afghanistan each year, but ministry officials believe at least 4 million pills are being consumed nationwide.

Indeed, given the notoriously porous nature of Afghanistan's borders, some believe that the number of tablets that are flooding into the country could be even higher.

As Afghanistan only has an estimated adult male population of 9 million, it seems that demand for Viagra is exceedingly high.

Why Afghan men appear to have such a pressing need for the aphrodisiac has been the source of some speculation.
. . .

Some have also pointed to the fact that Afghan men can have as many as four, often younger, wives at any given time.

 

 

Afghan officials estimate that the Taliban earned about $100 million between 2011 and 2012 from the opium poppy industry

 

Algeria

In Algeria, where alcohol is not prohibited except during Ramadan (6.8 litres per year per person in 2010), consumption increase [between 2005 and 2010] by 7% in terms of value and 3% in volume.

 

 

Nearly 2,000 pubs and other alcoholic drink outlets have been closed in Algeria in the past three years, particularly in the Algiers area, according to a source from the alcoholic beverage producers' association. In Tizi Ouzou, ten orders to shut down pubs were enforced by the police in September alone. In the capital, the authorities unleashed a real war on bars and pubs.

 

Germany

[According to annual report of the German police] The number of residents of not German nationality suspected of organizing criminal gangs reached 471,067, while 106,396 out of them were Turks. As to drug trafficking, 26.6% of Germany’s drug dealers are Turks, 21.9% of those engaged in cocaine trafficking are Turks as well.

 

Iran

more than 100 executions this year alone were for drug-related offences.

 

 

Behind its façade of Muslim piety, Iran is one of the most drug-addled countries in the world.
. . .
The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) reports that Iran has 1.2 million "drug-dependent users," and that 2.26 percent of the population aged 15-64 is addicted to opiates.

 

 

Only China executed more people in 2011 than Iran. More than have the 600 plus victims of the death penalty were convicted of drugs offences.

 

 

Iran, where home-brewers and party-goers in Tehran drink 1.02 liters [of pure alcohol] per capita a year, even though it is not officially allowed.

 

 

Lebanon

Lebanon, where one person drinks about 2.23 liters of pure alcohol a year.

 

 

Malaysia

World Health Organisation (WHO) has named Malaysia as the world's tenth largest consumer of alcohol.

 

A new WHO report has said Malaysia spent over 500 million dollars (RM1.5bil) on alcohol with a per capita consumption of seven litres, while its beer consumption is 11 litres per capita, The Star reports.

Deputy Women, Family and Community Development Minister Heng Seai Kie expressed concern that this problem is getting serious.

 

 

Pakistan

 

Pakistan’s first comprehensive survey on drug use, conducted with the help of the U.N.’s anti-narcotics agency, reveals that a substantial portion of the country’s population suffers from the devastating consequences of substance use.

 

U.N. officials say the extensive survey of drug use in Pakistan is the first of its kind in south and west Asia, and provides a baseline for the government to plan effective polices to deal with the growing problem.

 

The research estimates that nearly six percent - or 6.4 million adult Pakistanis - used drugs in the last 12 months. It says cannabis, or marijuana, is the most commonly consumed drug in the country, with four million people users.

 

 

Afghanistan is the world’s largest producer of opium – heroin’s main ingredient – and accounts for 90 per cent of the global supply. Roughly 40 per cent of it is smuggled through Pakistan.

 

Russia

The pan-Islamic terrorists in Chechnya and the innumerable organised Chechen crime mafia groups operating in Chechnya and outside have never been short of funds. It is believed that their main sources of funding are: 1. Narcotics (essentially heroin) smuggling: US $ 800 million per annum.

 

Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is the world’s sixth largest consumer of sex drugs as domestic demand is as much as 10 times that in Russia, according to [Alriyadyh Arabic language daily].
. . .

“Saudis are the sixth largest consumers of sex drugs in the world…their consumption is as much as 10 times that of Russia although the population in that country is more than 10 times the Saudis,” it said.
. . .

Saudi Arabia alone spends over $1.5 billion [on Viagra and other anti-impotence medicines every year].

 

Tunisia

Tunisia, where despite the lack of prohibition the purchase of wine or whisky is viewed as socially inappropriate behaviour, between 2004 and 2009 money spent on alcohol increased from 27.8 to 44.8 million dinars, or from 18 to 31 million euros.

 

Turkey

During the 5-year [Euromonitor International] survey period [2005 - 2010] the Turks [alcohol consumption] increased from 18.3 to 20.5 litres per person

 

United Arab Emirates

During the 5-year [Euromonitor International] survey period [2005 - 2010]... UAE citizens [alcohol consumption increased] from 30.4 to 36.8 litres.

 

United Kingdom

The size of the UK market for heroin is estimated at between 18 and 23 metric tonnes per annum. Mr Coates told us that Turkish organised crime groups dominate the heroin market in the UK, of which they are probably responsible for around 70%.

 

 During our visit to Turkey, we were advised by the Turkish Authorities that, of the 95% of drugs in Turkey which are destined for abroad, a “significant proportion” is intended for the UK.^[24] Most of the heroin entering the UK does so via the Balkan route, generally arriving by lorry or by deep sea container.

 

 

According to law enforcers, about 90% of imported heroin is of Turkish origin. The Turks engaged in heroin business are mainly concentrated in the eastern part of London. They have links with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Zuhair <zuha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dr. Daya. Thank you for bringing the "Tambiya" so called "Muslim" to the book. I will post a list of  so called "Buddhist" for your info soon.

Unfortunately, Sri Lankan law is so weak and any crime of this nature simply escape.

You all know what happened to the drug container came with reference to  secretary of a ministry etc.  There are many fellows with Sinhalese names too get caught, though the names are not revealed by the press.

So, Dr.Daya, if you want to uplift Buddhist value ,

you need to expose the all criminals irrespective religion.

Otherwise, you are committing the crime of deception.

Regards

Zuhair

On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Daya Hewapathirane <daya.hewa...@gmail.com> wrote:

MUSLIM  INVOLEMENT IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES - Mohamed Kamaldeen Rizvan REMANDED

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Top liquor den busted

Over Rs. 100m worth imported liquor, cigarettes seized:                                                                                By Kurulu Kariyakarawana

(Extracts from detailed information published in Sunday Observer of August 31, 2014)

Organised Crime and Anti Vice Division of the Police Department which is reputed for daring raids and arrests of high profile criminals in the recent past received a tip off three weeks ago about a secret storage of imported liquor in Colombo.

The anonymous caller revealed how a high scale liquor business has been in operation for many months in the heart of Colombo under the nose of the law enforcement authorities.

The detectives doing initial background study learnt that expensive imported liquor are being sold to a network of prominent people at duty free rates. These personnel consisted of powerful politicians, leading businessmen and senior police and Customs officials.

Eight men including the millionaire businessman were arrested by the police at the crime scene who recovered the storage worth millions of rupees.

The value of the spirits has been estimated at Rs. 80 million and the cigarettes were valued at Rs. 20 million. The value of the entire stock is roughly estimated at Rs. 100 million, the police said.

On Friday seven suspects were bailed out and the owner Mohamed Kamaldeen Rizvan was re-remanded until next Thursday.

 

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Courtesy -   Linked in                                                                                                                                           Mohamed Rizwan Kamaldeen                                                                                                                                           Head of Finance at Abdul Rahim Al Zarooni Group

United Arab Emirates                                                                                                                                                     Real Estate                                                                                                                                                             Education – Zahira College Colombo

On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:19 PM, niyas abbas <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Saturday, 30 August 2014, 1:53, "niyas abbas niyas...@yahoo.co.uk [political_analysts]" <political...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Tell me which army went to Indonesia and Malaysia (and Sri Lanika or Maldives) to convert at the point of the sword ... Hundreds of millions embraced this great religion leaving their pagan belief ... There are no records in history of such armies but it tells of Arab and Muslim traders whose truthful, modest & humble behaviour on the guidelines of Quran and the examples of our Beloved Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) won hearts. This is why historians say Islam won hearts by the sword of the pen. The pen became more powerful than the sword when presenting Islam.  

Tell me man ... history and news depends on who writes it and who propagates it ... today the entire zionist controlled international media is biased against the spread of Islam. So show one Buddhist or a Buddhist monk who embraced Islam in Sri Lanka was forced. Bring proof ... we will return him to you. Are we Muslims so powerful that BBS, who destroyed Aluthgama, is so powerless to "save them"?

Victor too is writing here like the Mahadena Muttas ... where have you been incubating all these years .... You have become old and exhausted fighting a failed war with Islam. You are defending Mahesh who is the worst mutt in this forum.

Remember Islam is powered by the Lord of this Universe. He created you and me and every thing in this universe. He sustains it and monitors it. He will sure call you to account for your lies and hatred. And the the result will be "horrible" to you in the state you are in ... Buddha too confirmed this in Tripitaka... ie., if you believed in it. You need to accept Him as your Creator and Lord ... and obey His commands to the letter which is inscribed in His Book and He himself took the task of preserving it to the letter so that no one will have an excuse to say it is corrupted like your tripitaka or the Bible. Quran is un-corruptible. Because Allah took the task of protecting it Himself  "It is We who sent down this reminder (Quran) and We are its protectors". It stood the test for the past 1435 years and it has just ONE VERSION. 

It inscribes that if anyone kills one innocent human, he will make him inherit hell with the charge of having killed a whole humanity. It is such a Book of Justice. It has a formula .. DO NOT OPPRESS and DO NOT GET OPPRESSED. So there is permission to fight back oppression. This is what our fighter are doing today. If anyone accuses anyone of committing actions against this rule don't add the title of Islam to it. If American, British or Zionist forces enter an Islamic land to occupy and rape & kill its citizens don't expect them to receive them with bouquet of flowers.

In the on going war in Gaza your Yehudi friends killed thousands of innocent women and children yet the soldiers of Allah killed 65 soldiers only. Simply showing pictures of children and calling them Christian children being slaughtered by Muslims will not digest in the minds of the wise. 

CIA agent Malala was made a heroine by USA but ever since the same Americans have killed many Malalas on daily basis by their drone attacks .... why doesn't the same media show picture of fragmented bodies of those Malalas? Because this is the way they try to win the war against Islam. Lies lies and lies ...  But intelligent people keep entering Islam by seeing these lies. Thanks to BBS now Monks are reading the Quran like at no other times. They are truly amazed ... they blame us for hiding this treasure trove of information. This is Alalh's way of warning us of our negligence to pass His message to the Buddhists. Now Allah did it thru' Gnanasara Thero. "Allahu Khairul Maakireen" He is indeed the best of planners.

Thank you for reading thru' this whole writing. Embrace Islam and save your self from the punishment in Hell. Scrutinize the Quran and take your decisions. Do not see the actions of media actors of so called "Muslims" to Judge Islam. If we take Gnanasara or Wiratu as our example of a Buddhist ... O my God ... who will embrace Buddhism?

Victor .. over to you!

Niyas

On Friday, 29 August 2014, 14:04, Dr Victor Gunasekara <vgu...@uqconnect.net> wrote:

Mahesh Pathirana has given the full quotes from the Koran and his interpretation is correct. But Muslims today attach even more importance to the deeds of the Prophet Muhammad than to the ambiguous statements in the Koran.  In the dozen or so years after Muhammad assumed his rule, both military and civil, over his Muslim followers after his exile to Yatrib (Medina) he committed all those acts that we see today done by the Jihardists.  These are amply given not only in the Hadith but also in the writings of the Muslim historians and scholars.  I think more exposure should be given to these even more that to the statements in the Koran.

VG

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Well done Mahesh..!      Answer him Niyas.  if not you become just a dumb ass suicide bomber.

Nothing else they can do without picking up bits and pieces from Quran. Hatred & violence is everywhere in that outdated book of the suicide bombers.

Abubakar Bagdadi deserved to be the leader of the Muslims because he follows the Quran 100% 

These people in this forum never argue or reply straight honestly about the matters in Quran.  

They deserve to hit the head on the ground a few times a day. as they are useless.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Mahesh Pathirana <mahesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Niyas the PIG, 

You proved again that you are a donkey and I knew very well as to how the Muslims would respond to my challenge and that is why I clearly told you NOT TO BRING PARTS OF VERSES . I think you Muslims must go back to your Mullas and tell the Mullas that now the non-Muslims have come to know all the tricks those Mullas have taught the Muslims and tell your Mullas to find some new tricks to cheat the non-Muslims. 

You Donkey, why did you hide the first part of that verse??? Here comes your verse in full form, including the first part that you were forced to hide from the public ( you knew that if you sent the full verse, it will look like your pant is removed and you will stand naked in front of us)   

Qur'an 5:32

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for spreading mischief in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.  And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

So Donkey in the right context, this message was not a divine command to the Muslims, but it was simply a recount of a rule that was given to the Jews. So, here "whoever" does not mean any one, "whoever" here means "any of the Jew". 

And look at the clause included in this verse, killing is allowed in case of spreading "mischief", what is this Mischief?? Mischief here is worshiping of any other god other than Allah, so murder is allowed if somebody had worshiped any god other than Allah. How merciful???

And any application to Muslims would have to apply only to Muslims - as in Muslim on Muslim murder within the brotherhood of believers.  In fact, the context of the verse is the murder of Abel by Cain.
Muhammad affirmed that while a Muslim may be punished with death for killing a fellow Muslim, they should never be slain for killing a non-believer. 

So it is well proved that the above verse is just a recount of some rule of the Jews and that the Verse in the Qur'an has not directly commanded it to the Muslims. 

Now if the Quran says that every life ( lives of anybody irrespective of their faith in any religion)  through 5:32, I bring you the verse 5:33 below, which reveals the true nature of Islam. 

Qur'an 5:33

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Then you explain how Islam has guided you to respect the human lives through the below verses. 

Qur’an 2:193
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah or and every kind of worship  of anything other than Allah) and until worship is only for Allah (Alone). 

Qur’an 9:5

Regards

Zuhair

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