enable shadowing on multiple accounts at once?

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Brian, Seiler

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Sep 30, 2014, 8:34:42 AM9/30/14
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Haiku masters,
Is there a way to select multiple accounts at once and enable shadowing?
I want to enable shadowing for ALL of my teachers.

Best regards,


Brian T. Seiler
Director of Technology
St. Edward High School
13500 Detroit Ave.
Lakewood, OH 44107
P. (216) 221-3776 Ext. 210
F. (216) 221-4609

Justin Goff

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Oct 1, 2014, 9:36:27 AM10/1/14
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Hi, Brian!

Great question! For privacy reasons, we generally recommend against granting special Permissions, including Shadowing, broadly across an entire domain. This is one reason why we require Domain Administrators to assign special Permissions manually, one user at a time.

With that said, we're definitely open to hearing your thoughts on the topic. Would you say a little more about why you're interested in allowing all teachers to Shadow all other teachers? I suspect there might be a different way to meet this need in the future.

Thanks so much for your feedback!

Cheers,
Justin 

Brian, Seiler

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Oct 1, 2014, 10:22:05 AM10/1/14
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Justin,
Why wouldn't we want to allow teachers to see each others' web pages? That's just collaboration, sharing and team-teaching, basically. There shouldn't be anything private on a haiku page as far as I know. Is there some aspect I'm overlooking?

I understand why we shouldn't make pages public, for student privacy issues, for sure. But any faculty member should be able to see another's web pages, at least that's part of our culture here at SEHS.


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Brian T. Seiler
Director of Technology
St. Edward High School
13500 Detroit Ave.
Lakewood, OH 44107
P. (216) 221-3776 Ext. 210
F. (216) 221-4609

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Justin Goff

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Oct 1, 2014, 10:38:21 AM10/1/14
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Hi, Brian!

Shadowing has the potential to let a user see student grades and student work, as well as student enrollment in the Roster and, by implication, parent-child relationships. In other words, it can give the user access to more than just the Pages section of the class.

Down the road, we're more likely to try to meet this need for collaboration and team teaching through some kind of "Public to Domain" or "Public to Organization" option that would make the Pages section of a class visible to all users (or all users with a certain Role) in the applicable Domain or Organization. At the moment, we're a little wary of making it easier to assign Permissions in bulk if that need can be met through a more secure approach.

Would a "Public to Domain" or a "Public to Organization" option meet the need you're describing? If not, let me know!

Cheers,
Justin

Lyford Rome

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Oct 1, 2014, 6:00:03 PM10/1/14
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Hi Justin,

Please work on that Public to Domain feature - that would be great for non-academics too like clubs and student government!

Lyford Rome
Upper School Educational Technologist
 



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Allison Hart

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Oct 16, 2014, 12:02:52 AM10/16/14
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We'd LOVE public to Domain, but only for teachers  - not for students/parents (at least the ability to set that separately)

nich...@setonmontessori.org

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Nov 11, 2014, 1:15:59 PM11/11/14
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Hi Brian,

If it is for collaboration do the teachers need to make changes to each others pages? If not,  I would create a section for teachers and add them as students. That way you can give them full access for their section while limiting the students if need be. If you are wanting them to manipulate the course, you are opening a slippery slope. That gives them to add and delete without permission. I have had courses with a lot of teachers in it and things got deleted. Nothing huge and not maliciously, but still a pain for it to be added again. Also, in a shadow you do not know who did the add or delete. If you add them as a teacher you do. Also if you have them as students you have them sharing through the library. That would also help build that up for you. Sorry for the ramble.

Best,

Nick

Brian, Seiler

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Nov 25, 2014, 10:41:34 AM11/25/14
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Nicholas, some good points. We, of course, do not want teachers editing each others' pages, whether purposely or otherwise, unless the folks involved are team-teaching. We just want the ability to automatically turn on shadowing for all classes for users of a particular role, in this case, teachers. I think there needs to be a setting that lies somewhere in between making a class completely public and making it completely locked down. I remember with the very-limited Edline software all classes in the school were visible.


Best regards,


Brian T. Seiler
Director of Technology
St. Edward High School
13500 Detroit Ave.
Lakewood, OH 44107
P. (216) 221-3776 Ext. 210
F. (216) 221-4609

Carolyn Oates

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Nov 25, 2014, 2:52:14 PM11/25/14
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Hi,
We could use this "shadowing" or public domain for those wanting to look at class before signing up to use for their area.

Additionally this also fits with the need to have a grader permission where they can grade, but not change the class.

Thanks, Carolyn
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