Greetings HackerspaceSGers!

[Yongsheng]

Hello all,

I'm from the states (Milwaukee, Wisconsin) visiting/possibly moving to
SG. I came here out of interest for the startup scene in SG, as well
as for the adventure of living in foreign environments. Primarily
though, I'm interested in finding partners to run a new startup with
(or joining one if you'd like to pitch me!).

In the past I've developed a laboratory information management system
(think crud application for scientists) for my alma mater (University
of Wisconsin-Madison) and more recently I built a smart grid data
aggregation and reporting system for my most recent/current employer.
The former was built on a typical LAMP stack, while the latter was
built on a number of technologies such as Python, C#, Postgresql, and
Google Web Toolkit.

Anyways, hopefully ya'll treat me nice enough. I look forward to
meeting all of you!

[Martin]

Awesome! You will like Singapore! The startup scene is quite nice over here.

Have a look at http://connections.sg/ to get a gist of some places and names you should know.

You might also want to import the hackerspace.sg calendar (http://hackerspace.sg/calendar/) into your Google calendar. 

There are tons of user groups and meetups happening every week here. You will never get bored.

Best regards,

Martin

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[Archibald 'Archer' DENG]

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thanks for the connection.sg link

-Archer

[Meng Weng Wong]

I wonder if there's room for a sort of artists co-op model which creates a corporate umbrella for individual contributors who all pretty much do their own thing.

[archer deng]

I am watching October Sky <movie>.
I figured the way you go forward, if that is your aim, is an overwhelming personal obsession to teach yourself something. And, not mine too much if you don't have the Answer just yet. Just as long as each time your in doubt, you keep carrying your Question that little bit further.

It is a grand movie. 

Suggestions of a Hackerspace being stacked atop a TechShop just keep floating around my mind.

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[Yongsheng]

Yes I agree...that connections.sg link is boss.



On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, Archibald 'Archer' DENG <arch.deng...@gmail.com>
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> > <http://hackerspace.sg> calendar (http://hackerspace.sg/calendar/)

[Alvin Jiang]

I proposed an enterprise spinoff of hackerspace a couple of months back
- those members involved in hackerspace I spoke to were quite supportive
of the idea (where individuals can do their thing, bill through the
organisation less a % for management fees and licence fee for
hackerspace), but I never found enough people who were interested to use
such a structure. If there's sufficient interest I'm happy to drive this
again.

On 13/7/2011 4:16 PM, Meng Weng Wong wrote:
> I wonder if there's room for a sort of artists co-op model which creates
> a corporate umbrella for individual contributors who all pretty much do
> their own thing.
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> On Jul 13, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Archibald 'Archer' DENG wrote:
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>> On 7/13/11 11:33 AM, Martin wrote:
>>> Awesome! You will like Singapore! The startup scene is quite nice
>>> over here.
>>>
>>> Have a look at http://connections.sg/ to get a gist of some places
>>> and names you should know.
>>> You might also want to import the hackerspace.sg

>>> <http://hackerspace.sg/> calendar (http://hackerspace.sg/calendar/)

>>> into your Google calendar.
>>> There are tons of user groups and meetups happening every week here.
>>> You will never get bored.
>

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[archer deng]

Hey Alvin

Is there a reference link i can get at to read about your Proposal several months back.

These messages have a nagging way of losing steam except with the core contributors to them.

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Guys guys. The answer to our problem is OPTIMUS PRIME.

A TechShop doesn't necessarily have to a Brick and Mortar Building.

Allow me to reference.

PUB - Public Utilities Board uses converted containers into off station monitoring stations.

Fire Stations have several types of vehicle 'WorksShops" that are fully-equipped and ready.

So small team of operators, logistics man to find power and water and site mobility and if we stack the PODS or put them in a row, rigging a roof to allow a buffer of air to take of the heat. You got a mobile base of operations.

How do I know this? I was doing this.

Why is mobile worthy of H-space consideration? Because of scalability. Need to more shop space. Buy a new container and begin conversion into a pod.

If TechShop is after BIG CONSTRUCTIONS and PROTOTYPING, instead of only to be occupied with the things of hobbyist.

IF TechShop is going to attract the attention and heat of heavy finance for it's hatchery of Start-Ups and their produce. We need to think bigger.

Mobile Base of Operations. 

Don't squawk about feasibility. That's my domain. 

Just ask yourself this, in city that is fast becoming the most expensive real estate in the world, and with the ambitions of fiercely intelligent teams of collaborators. 

Does this sound feasible. Nothing to it. Like running a carnival. My ex-girlfriend's daddy been doing for the last 20 years in Singapore.

Now, forum, break this idea or aid it. But be earnest. 

Cheers

- Archer

btw, Ben, I'm still working on the ways for the yacht construction facility in Batam.

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[archer deng]

the most important thing in a post-apocalyptic civilization.

is a technical workshop. personnel care and sustaining aside.

a technical shop. is where technology is constructed and wielded.

it catapults a people group to new heights of Civilization.

any RTS game player gets this.

for the community and individual, access to a TechShop will means offshoots in strange and unexpected manifestations.

Lo-and-Behold, there is such a thing where mathematics and metal is bent around visions.

The world is not merely the cool wafting of air-conditioning, herman miller chairs, female interns in designer fashions.

The world is metal. You ore it, smelt it and make it.

i forgotten this. exoteric knowledge, conventional teaching has pass me by. i must remember how to work metal.

what a relief to get it written out.

-Archer

[Jiang Fung Wong]

Hi Yongsheng,

Wow

>Python, C#, Postgresql and Google Web Toolkit.

C# is the odd one out in the list. Don't you think?

I have yet to know a developer who is skilled in both Python and C#, I myself is one. An awesome combination of languages from two different worlds.

Cheers,

Jiang Fung

Twitter @kakarukeys

LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/jianfong

[Martin]

I used C# for 5 years before converting to Python...

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[Yongsheng]

Good eye! In reality if I could start that project over, I probably
would've went with Python for the part that was written in C#. But as
some things are fairly ingrained in certain corporate cultures, I just
went with the flow. Not that C# is a bad language (imo it's a
slightly better Java), but I think the future of Python is much
brighter.

Also I can't say I'm super skilled in either, but at some point most
OO languages are similar enough to the point where grokking one means
you can grok the rest...at least that's the approach I like to take!

[Meng Weng Wong]

On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Yongsheng wrote:

Also I can't say I'm super skilled in either, but at some point most
OO languages are similar enough to the point where grokking one means you can grok the rest...at least that's the approach I like to take!

I think you meant to say that all inheritors of the superclass of object-oriented languages express the same public interfaces.

[Yongsheng]

That's awesome. I wish I had thought of that one.........

[Mingming Wang]

I also think/found Python is better for Startups than Java/.Net, more agile and elegant. 

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[Jiang Fung Wong]

Python supports imperative and functional paradigms in additional to OO. I find it natural to write Python program mixing the 3 styles, using each at its most suitable area of use. 

You could write a Python program all in classes and objects like C#, but you will have wasted the expressive power of Python this way. And sure, Python is more agile and elegant. C# is heading towards this direction by being more dynamic with the introduction of some dynamic features in .NET 3.5 and 4, something Guildo has achieved 10 years ago.

I find that I only need C# when I want to write Windows application. Not that Python does not support windows programming, but pywin32 / py2exe is such a pain in the a**.

[Benjamin Scherrey]

FWIW if you really wanna write Windows Thick Client apps in Python then simply code in IronPython. You'll have access to all the same apis and .Net objects that you have in C# but they'll appear as Python objects.

  -- Ben

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[Jiang Fung Wong]

Thanks Ben. Will find out if it can be packaged into installer and distributed.

[Kim Yong]

Jim Huggin used to be a M$ developer working on IronPython. But Jim had left M$ for Google last year. Not sure if Iron Python is still actively developed

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[Meng Weng Wong]

Iron Python * 10^100 = Rusty Python

[Kenny Shen]

+1 haha

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