Seeking headphone repair recommendation

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Mike Mazur

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Feb 25, 2012, 3:35:00 AM2/25/12
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Hello,

I have a set of ear buds (with mic) on which the connection between
the audio jack and the cord is broken. When pressure is applied to the
jack in a certain way, the audio is clear, but most of the time the
audio is cut off completely.

Does anyone know a repair shop which can do a good job fixing this? I
imagine some delicate soldering is required. It'd be nice if the
patchwork was finished well, too, and not be too bulky or look
unsightly.

I have a replacement jack, but it's not gold like the original jack,
and it's attached to a large L-shaped "casing." Any suggestions on
shops which would carry quality parts like a headphone jack are much
appreciated.

Thank You!
Mike

Jasper C

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Feb 25, 2012, 10:18:33 AM2/25/12
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It should be a pretty simple job - Most difficult part might simply be
stripping the wire.

Not sure how the mic will complicate things. If it was a
straightforward pair of earbuds, I'd figure you'd want something like
a Neutrik NYS231BG.

And there's a shop that seems to DIY audio gear on the 3rd floor of
Sim Lim Tower, near the escalators. They seem to do mostly speaker
amps though.

nav

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Feb 26, 2012, 6:56:27 AM2/26/12
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You could also try Jaben at Adelphi Mall.

Tay Ray Chuan

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Feb 26, 2012, 7:02:39 AM2/26/12
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Heh Jaben crossed my mind too.

Check their opening hours before going down. They don't follow regular
office hours iirc.

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Mike Mazur

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Feb 26, 2012, 8:41:04 AM2/26/12
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll give Jaben a call and see when
they're open, then drop by. If that fails, I'll go snoop around Sim
Lim Tower.

Thanks!
Mike

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Lucian Teo

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Feb 26, 2012, 10:38:34 AM2/26/12
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Second trying Jaben.

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Antti Nissinen

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Feb 27, 2012, 3:53:13 AM2/27/12
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Sup, sadly it's usually cheaper to buy a new one than get it fixed, unless you are able to fix it yourself. (please correct me if this doesn't apply in Singapore, but I would think it is even more expensive in there..)

Even if you solder it back together it's not going to last as good as the new one, since headphone cables are made so thin. You can add as much shrinking tube, epox glue, silicone or what ever you like, but it's never the same and usually wears or breaks off quite fast with small cables like that. I think High-end headphones are actually worth repairing, but earbuds usually are not.

What I would do, I'd try to solder it back together and if it doesn't work out, buy a new one. After breaking few earbuds and trying to solder them back you start getting it right and then you are able to fix them if you think they are worth it. Even I'm able to fix those things, I usually don't because it's not worth of my time.

Sorry, I don't have any real recommendations where to get them fixed, just wanted to give my opinion

-anacron


Mike Mazur

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Feb 27, 2012, 7:18:30 AM2/27/12
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Hi Antti,

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 16:53, Antti Nissinen <antti.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sup, sadly it's usually cheaper to buy a new one than get it fixed, unless
> you are able to fix it yourself. (please correct me if this doesn't apply in
> Singapore, but I would think it is even more expensive in there..)
>
> Even if you solder it back together it's not going to last as good as the
> new one, since headphone cables are made so thin. You can add as much
> shrinking tube, epox glue, silicone or what ever you like, but it's never
> the same and usually wears or breaks off quite fast with small cables like
> that. I think High-end headphones are actually worth repairing, but earbuds
> usually are not.

Agree. Unfortunately for me, these are not cheap ear buds, but medium-
to high-end in-ear monitors.

I went to Jaben this evening and left my ear buds to get fixed. The
cost is $45 and may take 2-3 weeks, which kinda sucks, but as long as
they come back working I'll be happy. They don't do repairs there, but
have a guy who comes by once in a while and picks up items for repair.

What surprised me a little was that they were going to replace the
jack with a standard audio-only jack. It wasn't until I asked that
they told me this! That would have really ticked me off... thinking
they fixed my headphones, only to discover they neutered the mic.

I did have some TRRS[1] (four-contact) jacks, plus a working cheap
headset with mic which I don't mind destroying to salvage the jack. I
left them for the repair guy.

Here's hoping my ear buds come back in good shape!
Mike


[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector

Alvin Jiang

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Feb 27, 2012, 8:02:19 AM2/27/12
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Out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a session on choosing
headphones?

I was recently looking for a solution in the $50 - $200 price range and
realized that the plethora of options and marketing crap makes it really
confusing for the average guy looking to enjoy average music in the
urban environment. The best advice any of the specialists could give me
was to try each and every pair. I don't doubt thats the best advice,
but if there's interest I might call on someone to bring demo units (and
enough sanitizing wipes), headphone amps, explain the basics of choosing
headphones and suitability for different types of music/purpose, and
arrange for what they call an "audition".

Let me know if you're interested, or are yourself an enthusiast willing
to shed light (and sound!) on this black magic topic.

Ciaran Lyons

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Feb 27, 2012, 8:35:22 AM2/27/12
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Marco from Instapaper can really talk about headphones: http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=marco.org+headphones


And The Wirecutter is great for in depth reviews about which X is the best to buy: http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/

I don't doubt that a trying-on session would be useful, but I found all of the above links pretty useful and informative.

Cheers,
C.

Alvin Jiang

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Feb 27, 2012, 8:58:11 AM2/27/12
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Thanks!

I already made my choice but I'm hoping someone can share some basics
such as the advantages of in-ear, on-ear and over-ear (from audio
quality to looking like a dork on public transport), as well as the care
and use cases of various types of headphones for various activities like
sports and chucking your cables into a timbuk2 full of various sharp and
hot objects.

In looking for a solution I had to educate myself on technical terms
and the various shortcomings in each headphone design, as well as
tidbits like "monitors" producing accurate sound but not necessarily
noticeably better in the urban environment despite being the choice for
on-stage performers. Sites like Marco's were extremely useful, but if
someone could give me a 1-hour primer I won't have to find out the state
of the art when I shop for my next pair.

Which should be soon, since I decided that the best way to cut through
the crap without an expert at my side was to buy an affordable pair and
experience for myself the wonders of music filling only your head. Until
recently most of my listening was done on my car stereo, which I chose
specifically because it didn't have someone else's name stuck on the
front of it. Anyway, I digress. The $50 headphones have been returned
twice under warranty. I actually like them, and even more so when I can
abuse them and then send them back for a new pair, but I think it's time
I learned to appreciate finer sound quality that hopefully will make me
value my investment such that I wipe them down rather than run them
under water. Yes, I told Philips I do that when I returned them and they
still sent me a replacement.

Oh well, I guess everyone here is happy with whatever they're currently
using :)

On 27.02.2012 21:35, Ciaran Lyons wrote:
> Marco from Instapaper can really talk about headphones:

> http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=marco.org+headphones [4]

> [5]


>
> And The Wirecutter is great for in depth reviews about which X is the

> best to buy: http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/ [6]

>>> [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector [2]
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> Links:
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> [1] mailto:antti.n...@gmail.com
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector
> [3] http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> [4] http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=marco.org+headphones
> [5]
> http://www.marco.org/2012/01/27/sennheiser-hd-380-pro-headphones-review
> [6] http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
> [7] http://hackerspace.sg/chat

Ivan

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Feb 27, 2012, 9:08:01 AM2/27/12
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Alvin Jiang <aji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a session on choosing
> headphones?

I'd be interested in such a session.

- Ivan

Tamas Herman

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Feb 27, 2012, 11:07:37 AM2/27/12
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im also interested, but cant be there in the next ~2 months,
so guys, pls make some notes on
http://pad.hackerspace.sg/p/headphones

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Alvin Jiang

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Feb 27, 2012, 11:29:26 AM2/27/12
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Actually I'm looking for in-ear. I own a QC2 over-ear and several Nokia
on-ears, over-ears and behind-the-neck(bluetooth and wired), but while I
don't listen to Justin Bieber and already look like a dork without the
cans, I'm rather afraid that blocking out all the ambient noise will
result in a car accident.

On 28/02/2012 00:19, Norman Kasiri wrote:
> Hi Alvin,
> Have you heard of this brand named Grado? I got the lowest model, SR60
> and I still love the sound after using it for about eight years. It
> cost about 120 sgd....the only thing I don't like us after putting them
> on for about an hour, your ears suffer mild discomfort. And oh, the
> design is open, meaning don't listen to Justin Bieber in public, unless
> you enjoy weird stares from people.
>
> I will be at Hspace tomorrow if you want to listen to it.
>
> Norman
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Alvin Jiang
> Sent: 27/2/2012 9:58 PM
> To: hacker...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HackerspaceSG] Re: Seeking headphone repair recommendation

>> On Monday, February 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Alvin Jiang wrote:
>>
>>> Out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a session on choosing
>>>
>>> headphones?
>>>

Norman Kasiri

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Feb 27, 2012, 11:19:46 AM2/27/12
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Norman

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Jasper C

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Feb 28, 2012, 10:40:35 AM2/28/12
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On Feb 27, 9:02 pm, Alvin Jiang <aji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity would anyone be interested in a session on choosing
> headphones?

I'd be interested, though as you've noted the problem in SG would be
sweatyheaditis... I've got a small amp I could bring though.


> In looking for a solution I had to educate myself on technical terms
> and the various shortcomings in each headphone design, as well as
> tidbits like "monitors" producing accurate sound but not necessarily
> noticeably better in the urban environment despite being the choice for
> on-stage performers. Sites like Marco's were extremely useful, but if
> someone could give me a 1-hour primer I won't have to find out the state
> of the art when I shop for my next pair.
>
> Which should be soon, since I decided that the best way to cut through
> the crap without an expert at my side was to buy an affordable pair and
> experience for myself the wonders of music filling only your head. Until
> recently most of my listening was done on my car stereo, which I chose
> specifically because it didn't have someone else's name stuck on the
> front of it. Anyway, I digress. The $50 headphones have been returned
> twice under warranty. I actually like them, and even more so when I can
> abuse them and then send them back for a new pair, but I think it's time
> I learned to appreciate finer sound quality that hopefully will make me
> value my investment such that I wipe them down rather than run them
> under water. Yes, I told Philips I do that when I returned them and they
> still sent me a replacement.

The best headphones are the ones *you* enjoy listening to. :)

Years ago I was looking at buying a pair of Sennheisers, ended up with
the HD 495 which sounded fantastic. But I also tried out the HD 590
and HD 600, since the shop had them all on a test stand. Preferred
the 590 over the 600 even though the latter is supposed to be top of
the line. Both of those were way out of my budget though.



Tamas Herman

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Feb 28, 2012, 11:29:02 AM2/28/12
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i had the chance a few yrs ago to try a cheap (below 100 SGD)
but surround headset pair. the mac has recognized it by default,
since it had a simple usb connector. i could only play ac3 stuff
on it w vlc, but that was something really different from any other
audio experience i had before. pink floyd sounded like im standing
at the middle of a concert. and it was not that fake concert hall
feeling u could just put on top of anything w a sound blaster live! ;)

im wondering whats happening on this front these days.
im still just seeing stereo mp3s all over the place…
even totally electronically authored music is not surround...

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tom

Tamas Herman

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Feb 28, 2012, 12:27:00 PM2/28/12
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talking about head phones, mr nonstop, the uber professional dubstep dancer has just made an advertisement for http://audio-technica.com/ head phones. see at the campaing site: http://www.xceltalent.com/

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tom


for other nonstop fans, here is a quite ~2months old video which has just caught my attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhEAs2pfL5c
he dances on the great fire^H^H^H^Hwal of china :) see more on his utube user page: http://www.youtube.com/user/WHZGUD2


Lucian Teo

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Feb 28, 2012, 7:01:39 PM2/28/12
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I have used Westones in-ear monitors for years and love them. They
have different models ranging from 100+ - 500+, but the comfort and
sound isolation is pretty good. I wear them while shooting M16s during
range practice in reservist.

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Mike Mazur

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Mar 20, 2012, 8:37:19 AM3/20/12
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Hi,

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:18, Mike Mazur <mma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I went to Jaben this evening and left my ear buds to get fixed. The
> cost is $45 and may take 2-3 weeks, which kinda sucks, but as long as
> they come back working I'll be happy. They don't do repairs there, but
> have a guy who comes by once in a while and picks up items for repair.

I called Jaben today to see how the repair was coming along. They told
me their repair guy can't fix the headphones because of the mic. Fair
enough, I guess I'll check out Sim Lim Tower next.

Mike

ntt

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Mar 22, 2012, 9:09:08 AM3/22/12
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Shoot I'm too late for this.. 

I just fixed a couple of my own headphones today at hackerspace, using the soldering iron here..

Could have fixed for you also..

-ntt
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