Help for cold feet

[Donna&DavidWebster]

Seems like a silly question, but I'm having the worst time keeping my
feet warm during these chilly rides. I'm already wearing two pairs of
socks with one being wool, tights, and shoe covers.

Anyone out there have a solution for my chronically cold feet? thanks
y'all.

[Salvatore Quattrocchi]

I don't have a solution but have the same problem and would like to hear a
solution.

Thanks,
Sam

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[Pam Blum]

try those toe warmers, you can buy for your feet, like the hand warmers.  They last for hours.  There are also full feet warmers.  You can buy them at REI and places like that.  Right now, BJ's has a box or ~40 hand warmers, with some of the toe warmers included for about $20, a really good price.  I use these for hiking as well and they are great. pam

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[Dave Naderman]

You can also try sandwich bags in your shoe. Put the bag over you socks. I used this trick when racing in cold weather.

 

Dave Naderman

Manager

 

10911 Raven Ridge Rd Ste 107

Raleigh, NC 27614    

919-845-2600

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[Robert Wolfrom]

Sometimes the heavy winter socks make the shoe fit so tightly that the
insulating value is diminished. If you have a slightly larger, looser
fitting shoe it will help. Also, Cannondale makes dual layer socks that keep
the cold out better.
Bob

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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:16 PM
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[dors...@mindspring.com]

Though I have not personally tried them, I purchased some Toasty Feet Insoles from Sahalie.com for a friend for christmas and they have a money back guarantee to keep your feet warm.  I am thinking of trying some myself.  I use shoe covers and thanks to Donna, have bar mitts also.

mary

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try those toe warmers, you can buy for your feet, like the hand warmers.  They last for hours.  There are also full feet warmers.  You can buy them at REI and places like that.  Right now, BJ's has a box or ~40 hand warmers, with some of the toe warmers included for about $20, a really good price.  I use these for hiking as well and they are great. pam
 
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http://www.rei.com/product/777595

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[bselle...@nc.rr.com]

Donna

As stated in a previous e-mail the toe warmers work very well, they are thin enough to fit on top of your toes and fit into your cycling shoes. You can buy them at REI, Dicks for $1.99/pair and I know in the past the Trek store carried them as well. I have been wearing them on every cold ride for the past few years and they have been my only solution the cold feet during winter rides.

Bert

[Dave Naderman]

We will have hand and toe warmers in on Friday.

Dave Naderman
Manager
Trek Bikes of Raleigh

10911 Raven Ridge Rd Ste 107
Raleigh, NC 27614
919-845-2600
www.trekraleigh.com

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[rio...@nc.rr.com]

I am certain that this is an issue of poor feet circulation. Ascertaining cause and effect is the tricky part.

If you have something medical, e.g. Raynaud's syndrome, you have a problem with poor feet circulation that requires medical attention. That would be first and foremost. (Dr. Dougherty; Dr. Puente?)

But, it is much more likely to be something more innocuous. You might be impeding proper feet circulation with what you are wearing. I am not certain what your are referring to when you say that you are wearing wool socks and "tights", as well as booties. But, "tights" sounds like something that would not allow your feet to "breath", and, because they are cramped in too tightly you will always get cold feet.

Once the cold penetrates (and, it is an immutable fact that severe cold will eventually penetrate; great shoes, booties, and socks keep most of it out, but what does get through is the issue for all of us...it is your last line of defense that I think is the issue) the principle of "body heat" is impaired, and what you are wearing actually works against you. It keeps the cold that penetrates in, and, since the feet can't "breath", what little bit of warmth from energy metabolism that actually makes it to the feet cannot assist in warming the toes; especially the little piggy that "had none", and the one that went "wee wee wee, all the way home".

Than again, I might not have the slightest idea of what it could be and just enjoy spewing useless dribble.

[bobpe...@nc.rr.com]

OK

The goal is to maintain cv fitness not ride a road bike in difficult conditions

1. Ride your mb on trails, bundle up, enjoy the view, and ride as hard and as long as u want

2. What's wrong with spin class or cross traiining. Ever hear of zumba?

Bp

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Subject: RE: [Gyros: 14491] Help for cold feet

[Bryan Grimmett]

This is what I use in the winter. They are worth the cost.

 

Sidi Hydro GTX Winter Road Shoe

 

http://www.veltecsportsusa.com/default.aspx?tabid=204&itemno=910010

[Jason S.]

Like Wolf said if you have on too many socks it can cut off the
circulation in your feet. When I take clients mountaineering in cold
weather I tell them to only wear one pair of socks.
Smart Wool makes a pair of super warm mountaineering sock for $20 at
REI.
Of course the best way to keep your feet warm is to ride harder. Get
your heart pumping and your blood flowing.

[Salvatore Quattrocchi]

I don't think it's a question of riding harder. I ride hard most of the
time. The issue is that my toes get cold because of the air draft through
the shoe. I agree that two pairs of socks is not a good solution, but I
couldn't find any one that sells winter bike socks (I went to several stores
including REI). Most suggested that I purchase booties which cover the
whole foot above the ankle, but it's just my toes that get cold. I tried
the toe covers which don't work well. So I think the best solution I've
seen so far is the toe warmers or using a sandwich bag between the sock and
shoe. I'll try the sandwich bag first and then spring for toe warmers if
that doesn't work.

Thanks,
Sam Quattrocchi
Raleigh, North Carolina

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[Bryan Grimmett]

Ask anyone how has the Sidi winter boots. They work.

[Jeff Snavely]

- DeFeet Blaze wool (mix) socks -- I absolutely love these socks and actually wear them year-round. The extra cusion is great and I can wear them all week without washing and without them smelling. All-Star stocks them.
- shoes that aren't too tight
- substantial shoe covers, not just wind covers. Mine are a really thick set from performance with a rubber sole.


I am tall and have always had cold hands and feet, but this works. I usually don't pull on the covers until it's below freezing, mainly because I'm lazy, but it's almost impossible to get your feet too hot in the winter.

I would guess that your shoes might be too tight if you're wearing all of that and still freezing - unless you're just generally under-dressed.

[slow down]

I have a sure fire fix. I turn up the thermostat, get in my snuggie,
hot chocolate, turn on ESPN.....presto..no cold feet.

>
> Once the cold penetrates (and, it is an immutable fact that severe cold will eventually penetrate; great shoes, booties, and socks keep most of it out, but what does get through is the issue for all of us...it is your last line of defense that I think is the issue) the principle of "body heat" is impaired, and what you are wearing actually works against you. It keeps the cold that penetrates in, and, since the feet can't "breath", what little bit of warmth from energy metabolism that actually makes it to the feet cannot assist in warming the toes; especially the little piggy that "had none", and the one that went "wee wee wee, all the way home".
>
> Than again, I might not have the slightest idea of what it could be and just enjoy spewing useless dribble.  
>
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> ---- Donna&DavidWebster <donna_and_da...@msn.com> wrote:
> > Seems like a silly question, but I'm having the worst time keeping my
> > feet warm during these chilly rides. I'm already wearing two pairs of
> > socks with one being wool, tights, and shoe covers.
>
> > Anyone out there have a solution for my chronically cold feet? thanks
> > y'all.
>
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[Tommy Willis]

I've tried every combination possible (sacks, high dollar booties, multiple socks, etc.) and I have found that a pair of Defeet Wooleators as a base layer and the Smart Wool over those.  The Wooleators are a really thin pair of wool socks that I usually use in the autumn by themselves.  In combination with the Smart Wool, it makes for a relitively thin sock.   I live in Oklahoma (used to live in Raleigh) and read up on stuff here every once in a while. It was about 30 degrees tonight and my feet were very warm.  It's about a $30 solution instead of spending tons of money on booties.

I do have a friend that swears by sticking his feet in garbage sacks or sandwich bags.  Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Tommy Willis
 

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[53x11]

Plastic bags? Wool socks? Toasty Toe/Feet Warmers? Old tech. Might as
well retro fit your bikes with friction shifters and replace your
quick releases with wing nuts.

Get a pair of light weight booties and drop one of these in each
bootie;

http://www.mackspw.com/Item--i-OPTHW100

Happy Trails.

[iamn...@aol.com]

Let me throw in a few suggestions that have not been mentioned yet. First let me say that in the process of trying to get prepared to ride in the cool weather - your feet will do a little sweating. Put some foot powder in the socks that you are going to wear and also in your cycling shoes. Regardless of your sock of choice - your feet will be a little moist and the powder will help keep them warm. Dry feet are warmer feet.You may even consider using insulated water bottles with hot water in 1 or both of your bottles. Gator products @(www.gatorgear.biz) carry a wide range of neoprene products. Check them out. I have some of the socks (have lasted for many years) and with either a liner sock (with foot powder) or just foot powder and the gator sock my feet are very warm. If I need more warmth then I use either the toe cover or full booties. When I buy cycling shoes I always get them 1/2 size larger to accommodate the thin and thick sock range. Sidis do not fit my feet but they make a good shoe. I like my Northwave and Shimano shoes. The Northwave shoes comes with 2 inserts - I leave them both in for the summer and remove 1 insert for the winter thicker socks. Too tight shoes will cause your feet to get cold. The heating pads also work well and are cheap. Anything that will block the wind totally and keep your feet dry will help a lot. Enough for now but more later about helping your hands

Gary Smith

TLC for Bikes

www.tlc4bikes.com

[rio...@nc.rr.com]

Wasn't this a great exchange of ideas? Someone comes up with a concern that is very appropriate, and we all share our thoughts. What works for one does not work for another. But, there have been so many really good suggestions here that I am sure that the Webster's will find one that works for them (I was not sure who wrote the original email).

I wrote a long discourse on circulation that I am sure very few of you actually read in it's entirety. But, the reason that I went into that was I wear the exact same footwear year round. I put on 2 pair of ankle socks (good quality) in the hottest or coldest of riding days. That's it. No booties, no heating inserts...And, I have never had an issue with cold feet on a ride.

Now, my hands are a different story. I must wear mittens on very cold rides. That's all that works for me. The key for me is to capture the large amounts of heat the my body produces through energy metabolism; sort of like the "buddy system" for hikers and backpackers. Only with naked digits instead of naked bodies!


Ok. I am done.

[Donna&DavidWebster]

My feet thank you and I thank you for all the feedback.

On Dec 9, 8:12 am, <riov...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Wasn't this a great exchange of ideas? Someone comes up with a concern that is very appropriate, and we all share our thoughts. What works for one does not work for another. But, there have been so many really good suggestions here that I am sure that the Webster's will find one that works for them (I was not sure who wrote the original email).
>
> I wrote a long discourse on circulation that I am sure very few of you actually read in it's entirety. But, the reason that I went into that was I wear the exact same footwear year round. I put on 2 pair of ankle socks (good quality) in the hottest or coldest of riding days. That's it. No booties, no heating inserts...And, I have never had an issue with cold feet on a ride.
>
> Now, my hands are a different story. I must wear mittens on very cold rides. That's all that works for me. The key for me is to capture the large amounts of heat the my body produces through energy metabolism; sort of like the "buddy system" for hikers and backpackers. Only with naked digits instead of naked bodies!
>
> Ok. I am done.
>
>
>
> ---- iamnof...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Let me throw in a few suggestions that have not been mentioned yet. First let me say that in the process of trying to get prepared to ride in the cool weather - your feet will do a little sweating. Put some foot powder in the socks that you are going to wear and also in your cycling shoes. Regardless of your sock of choice - your feet will be a little moist and the powder will help keep them warm. Dry feet are warmer feet.You may even consider using insulated water bottles with hot water in 1 or both of your bottles. Gator products @(www.gatorgear.biz) carry a wide range of neoprene products. Check them out. I have some of the socks (have lasted for many years) and with either a liner sock (with foot powder) or just foot powder and the gator sock my feet are very warm. If I need more warmth then I use either the toe cover or full booties. When I buy cycling shoes I always get them 1/2 size larger to accommodate the thin and thick sock range. Sidis do not fit my feet but they make a good shoe. I like my Northwave and Shimano shoes. The Northwave shoes comes with 2 inserts - I leave them both in for the summer and remove 1 insert for the winter thicker socks. Too tight shoes will cause your feet to get cold. The heating pads also work well and are cheap. Anything that will block the wind totally and keep your feet dry will help a lot. Enough for now but more later about helping your hands
>
> > Gary Smith
> > TLC for Bikes
> >www.tlc4bikes.com
>
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> > To: gy...@googlegroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:45 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Gyros: 14502] Re: Help for cold feet
>
> > Ask anyone how has the Sidi winter boots. They work.
>

[mary dorsey]

Me too, I got a couple of good pointers as well.
mary

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Donna&DavidWebster

[Donna&DavidWebster]

or should I say feetback??

[Salvatore Quattrocchi]

I just got back from picking up my Gyros Jersey and then a 21 mile ride @ 48
degrees.

First, the Jerseys are extraordinary. I can't wait until the weather warms
up so I can wear it. Thanks Tony for a job well done.

Second, while at the Trek store Toney suggested that I try the Grabber Toe
Warmers which are applied between the socks and shoes either the top or
bottom of the foot. He recommended that I apply them on the top so that's
what I did. I also used shoe toe covers that I have used before without the
toe warmers which didn't work very well. I must say the warmers made a huge
positive difference. My toes stayed warm throughout and, in fact, I hated
taking the them off once I got home. So a second thanks to Tony and all of
you that made similar suggestions. For me this works.

Sam Quattrocchi
Raleigh, North Carolina
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[mary dorsey]

I think I'm gonna try that also!
Thanks for the report.

mary

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