I do hope this is a short-lived issue. It seems to be a Windows issue, Fusion didn't change at all, even though Apple have fixed that crashing bug (finally). I have not tried UTM with Windows again recently, so I don't know if it was affected similarly.
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I ran into this problem while helping my friend install Windows 11 on his M1 MacBook Pro. If you don't want to use OCR, try connecting a USB audio device directly to the virtual machine. As far as I know, this is something Microsoft has to fix by adding drivers to the installation media, so the good old fallback of using a USB device should always work.
Thanks for the suggestions! Are there any installer prompts that VOCR is known to get stuck on that I should be aware of? @Chris Which USB audio devices have you had success with? Any that are known to not work with the installer due to missing drivers? Also, provided I went the USB sound device route, is it a matter of simply connecting the device within Fusion and the installer will then use it? Or does one need to ensure the 'sound card' virtual device is disconnected prior to connecting the USB sound device?
Is it worth it to run windows as a VM on the newer MacBooks? I am going to need a new computer before long. I would like to use a Mac for the commonality of hardware, but I need windows for work. What are the known issues?
As mentioned above I have an m2 pro mac with 3 usb c ports. This is important. Because I am a weird self-proclamed audiophile I always carry around either a usb c to jack or a usb a to jack adapter to use the windows base boost with 9db on every systems I can. Vocalizer voices and music sound amazing..... Anyway.
If you specifically have only usb c ports on your mac, don't guess and just purchase a usb c to jack and connect it hoping it'll solve that. I think it's technically possible but haven't found a reliable way. What you need to do instead is connect an usb a to jack adapter, to a usb a to usb c adapter plugged onto the mac, so the mac will actually detect it specifically as an external audio device that you could root to the guest vm while hearing voiceover and mac sound in your internal speaker. Then, with your earphones far from your ears (as you can't really control the volume as far as I know at this installation step), just turn on the narrator after rooting this external sound card to the vm and you'll hear the narrator and be able to proceed with the installation. It seems that with the emulation of x64 with utm narrator actually roots properly with whatever primary sound device but this thing is so slow that it's just not worth it having as the main vm, I wasn't able to bypass the tpm step with the iso from blind-help anyway.
So after the installation is complete and windoes is booted normally narrator should already work fine through mac speaker, if not just start narrator again and install the spice tools. Please be aware though , as I discover myself, the webdav .... network shared drive in the spice tools is broken specifically when you install office apps, you will have to uninstall it and get the x64 package from utm website and not the arm64.
@Cowboy Whether or not buying mac is worth it is beyond the scope of this topic but you should have a pretty good idea if you scroll through the feedbacks and applevise users feelings about macos and voiceover on this very website. I'd just say for now that don't expect it to be the same good, stable voiceover as ios, that's it. If you think so you'll be disappointed and willing to throw your mac to the nearest wall after... 1 month so you have a real experience with it. Generally though: academia? Not worth the pain honestly but I am surviving college life (non computer science program) with it since 2023 and just the battery life is definitely worth the purchase. Developer? Safe to go. DAW? I don't know the topic enough but if reaper sucks, worth buying mac. General entertainment / web browsing / web apps use? Absolutely not. Using only iWork suite? Yes.........
As I said, I have a windows vm alongside macos when voiceover sucks especially in word on mac or with math content (without braille display, the nuance is actually important here at the time of writing sonoma 14.3.1) and web browsing. Get the vm VO scripts for the numpad insert key emulated with capslock otherwise nvda narrator or jaws won't be working at all, somewhere on this site I'll put the link later. Remapping it to regular insert key doesn't work at least with nvda and narrator just so that you know. So this vm after innicial setup is reliable enough for me to do some of the class quizzes on it as long as I share mac folderswith smb or cloud storage not the utm shared drive even with x64 spice package. Word works well, chrome is incredibly fast for a virtual machine, ... You are only left with the left (and only) ctrl key. Right option (commander key by default) is windows, although I must have done something weird by mistake (good mistake) as since a week or two I just got the alt+ctrl combo with option so navigating table within is actually possible - I was messing around the dkeyboard remapping scripts mentioned before. Don't try to hit ctrl alt n (or any ctrl alt shortcuts) as this will be always be intercepted with voiceover. I haven't tried this with VO off though.
I just have a weird issue where I just stop hearing anything from the vm so I have to brut force restart it with utm controls sometimes. It seems to be an ew bug, I don't know what triggers it or if the innitial usb soundcard might help solving it.
Pro tips: when allocating the disk space in utm disk creation go with the larger amount if you can as it's nearly impossible to allocate the new freed space again after, e.g. expending a 64gb virtual drive to 128gb. You have to reinstall the vm with the proper size to make sure everything actually works. (applevis community feel free to correct me on this)
@TheBllindGuy07 What specific USB sound device are you using? It sounds like you may have stumbled on something the Windows 11 ARM64 WinPE image actually has drivers for, or whatever device you are using does not require OS-specific drivers. Agreed on the performance, ARM -> x86_64 emulation at the hypervisor would be extremely slow, therefore I'd like to stick to Fusion here if possible. Given this is a known issue, does this mean that the installer was fully accessible at one point given the correct audio driver was included?
Just to clarify, this is fixed in the current Apple beta for 14.4, and VMWare have just issued a security fix for Fusion but confirmed that they didn't fix this themselves, it was an Apple problem. So you must run the beta MacOS till 14.4 comes out.
As to whether it's worth it: sigh. That's all I have to say about it. You just need to accept that this is no ordinary x86-64 box, and this is the fallback plan. The biggest bummer is that JAWS Braille drivers are non-existent except for Focus, obviously. You'd need to be primarily a macOS and Linux user. Which, happily, is the case for me, but perhaps not for you.
@sebby Good to know. In that case, anyone have an working ISO lying around that contains the older working build? Also, presumably the generic audio USB driver is included in the installer? If so, I'd be interested to know some specific devices folks have had success with; my casual searching has revealed a mix of devices that both require and do not require supplemental drivers to function properly, although documentation can definitely be wrong about this on occasion. EDIT: Just came across the Soundblaster Play 3 and grabbed one, we'll find out soon enough if it's as plug-n-play as is advertised.
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