Insert Table

[ktfe...@knomaze.com]

Who creates a web design tool and leaves off the ability to create tables?

Am I missing something here? I shouldn't have to be required to manually hand-code the html table tags.

Please tell me my eyesight is bad and I just missed where Google placed this command and that they really didn't leave this critical piece off the product.

[Svein-Tore Narvestad]

Hi kktfe

I agree with you, creating a table is almost impossible without hand-coding in GWD.  This is something the GWD team have to fix in the future.

Svein-Tore

[Google Web Designer beta]

Hello,

To draw table tags, please try this

- Select the Tag tool (D)

- Pick 'Custom element' icon (< >) next to Video icon from the option bar

- Type "table" in the Element box

- Draw the table tag on the stage

I hope this helps,

Thanks,

Mariko - Google Web Designer team

[Svein-Tore Narvestad]

Hi Mariko!

No problem to add the table tag, BUT: You wil need the table row (tr) and table data also:

<table>
  <tr>
    <th>Month</th>
    <th>Savings</th>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>January</td>
    <td>$100</td>
  </tr>
</table>

When you try to put these tags inside the table tag, you'll very soon find out it is easier to hand code tables in GWD; or, a better solution is this:

1. GOTO http://www.tablesgenerator.com/html_tables

2. Create the table you want

3. paste the generated code into GWD

So, what ktfe is trying to say is that GWD is missing a solution to write a table simple

Mariko: Try to write a table in GWD and you'll see the problem.

So a table generator tool is something that is missing in GWD.

Svein-Tore

[Svein-Tore Narvestad]

So I have tested a bit.

The tags td and  tr will NOT work in GWD.  If I add a tr or a td tag in design view it will NOT!!!! show up in the code view.

THIS MEANS: THE ONLY WAY TO ADD TABLES IN GWD IS TO HAND CODE IT.

Thats NOT a good solution.

GWD TEAM: You have to fix this.  tables are indeed an important tag for a web site.

Svein-Tore

[Mariko Ogawa]

Hi,

Thank for explaining it. Now I see the issue you were describing.

We are not fully supporting inside tags within table tag in our UI, and I will log a feature request for that.

[ktfe...@knomaze.com]

"I don't need to be lectured by you. I was out coding HTML when your grandfather was in diapers. Besides which, I think W3C owes me one." <grinz>

After 20+ years of designing websites I think I know how to put a <tr> tag into an html page by hand. Not that I should have to at this stage. Was the first thing I tried and that was a complete disaster.

There are a pile of basic stuffs that should be in here which aren't. If you happen to have an original copy of MS Frontpage (not the piece of whoo-ha that they created after they canned the Frontpage product) go take a look at that.

Frontpage used to create nice clean code and had some really nice table management features that actually worked until some yahoo decided that it needed to be compatible with all the other microsoft products that produce junk code. At which point they also royally messed up all the table management features that were what people actually needed / used.

If you guys could reproduce some of those original MS Frontpage features in Google Web Design you'd have one of the better products on the market. Microsoft seems to have abandoned many of the features that made FP great back in the day and for whatever reason I haven't found a product since that really handles table management as cleanly as FP did.

[ktfe...@knomaze.com]

As a side note: I actually did manage to get tables to work by establishing a <div> segment by hand and then coding the table within that. I managed to get it to place correctly to where I wanted it to. However GWD then started inserting additional elements and it started making assumptions (incorrectly) on what it was I was trying to do.

So while it worked on the first pass by the time I had made additional updates, and saved the files a few times over, the table information started to become corrupt. Likely because the product didn't really know what to do with them.

I have a pile of applications were I need absolutely clean code - no style sheets, good table management features, basic HTML tags without any additional elements. MS Excel for example doesn't let you create a basic HTML table without it also including all the CSS / mso elements which then I have to manually remove. I've tried about 10-15 different products all of which also will not create an HTML page with a basic table without any style information. None of them work more almost all of them have horrific table management functions.

Was hoping GWD would be different but apparently not (or not yet?)

[raiha...@gmail.com]

Hi,

I want to know, are you supporting inside tags within the table, did you added to Google UI. I know last year you mentioned, you are not. However, I want to know this year if it's added to the UI.

[San Khong]

Hi Raihan,

It's not supported in Google Web Designer.  I will bring it up to our PM to get this prioritized.

Thanks,

San

Google Web Designer team