On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Luke Hill <
luke.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
>
> Preliminary discussions: WILL NOT GO IN THE HANDBOOK
>
> 1. What do we want most?
Clear, Concise description of who we are, what we do, and how to get involved.
Fair OOC rules that do not lend themselves to either rules lawyering
or autocratic abuse.
> 2. What do we want to avoid the most?
situations which set people up to fail, loopholes, "Wall of Text",
> 3. Five words (to summarize your most important desires/fears re: this
> project)
Clear, Concise, fair, usable, readable.
> Chapter 5: When Things go Awry
>
This section is going to need some considerably reworking. I also
think we should split corrective action into two parts - Immediate,
non-disciplinary corrective action that takes place right at the scene
and can't be appealed but is designed to do the absolute minimum to
correct a problem, and disciplinary investigations.
> 1. Disciplinary actions
> a. Life cycle of a disciplinary action
> (i) Complaint / Infraction
> (ii) Investigation
> (iii) Decision
> (iv) Punishment / Documentation
>
Without getting into Liam's idea about having officers who are
specifically tasked with investigations (which I think may be a good
idea) here are some take-aways from my time as an Ombudsman and my
review of a large number of DAs and Investigations:
1) IF YOU SAID IT, YOU OWN IT. Period, full stop.
This has a few implications:
a) An investigating officer should never be allowed to keep
evidence from the accused. The accused has no way to rebut what is
being said about them if they don't know what has been said. Nor do
they have a way to challenge the credibility of witnesses if they
don't know who said what.
b) It doesn't matter where you said something. If what you said
violated your perpetual responsibilities as a member, it doesn't
matter if you said it on a sanctioned list, at a game, on IRC, on
social media or at your local Denny's. You're responsible for that
statement.
c) Things that are said in a "non club" environment (such as
social media or the local Denny's) that don't violate perpetual
responsibilities can't be the *cause* of a DA, but can certainly be
used as evidence when determining if wrongdoing was done 'on club
time' or showing motive or a pattern of behavior.
I can give general thoughts (but not specific cases) on why each of
these is true. b) refers to things like divulging confidential club
information to people not authorized to have it, making promises on
behalf of the org that you're not authorized to make, etc. It does NOT
refer to calling someone names, even if it is a club related matter.
c) basically means that if one member calls another member names over
social media, we're not going to DA them for it or get involved.
However, is someone admits they did something at a club event over
social media, that can certainly be used as evidence that X happened
on club time. Further, if a member did things that are wrong, and the
officer isn't sure if they're simple mistakes or maliciously intended,
statements made by a member in either direction should inform the
officer's decision, regardless of where those statements were made.
2) Appeals should never be on the "Clearly Incorrect" basis. They
should be on a standard that promotes fairness and an equitable
resolution. I think we've covered that elsewhere but it bears
repeating.
3) At the end of the appeals chain, publish the DA. Keeping them
secret does way more harm than good.
> 4. Problems between members: conflict resolution
> a. When to use conflict resolution
And when it is completely inappropriate to force conflict resolution.
I've seen situations in the past that people tried to shoehorn into CR
inappropriately, in part to avoid having to deal with an investigation
that most likely should have happened.
Guy Seggev
GWB199511039