Shipping - Italy to the USA

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Charles Mullendore

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Aug 22, 2012, 9:33:17 AM8/22/12
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A friend has been contacted by a guy looking to ship his "father's '62 Guzzi" from Naples to the US. His uncle can build a crate for it if necessary, he's just looking for advice on how to proceed and a lead on a good shipping company. I'll pass any information on to him. Contact me off-group if you prefer. c.d.mullendore<@>att.net
 

Daniel DiCistofaro

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Aug 22, 2012, 10:08:21 AM8/22/12
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I shipped my 57 airone from Italy 5 years ago. I used a very good shipping company in Italy they crated it and sent it via air. Did a great job. Rosa 011 39 059253144

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Aug 22, 2012, 10:19:28 AM8/22/12
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Must have a heck of an uncle.  International agreements adopted in the last few years prohibit shipping of wood containers for fear of shipping insect pests.  Containers have to be steel, or made from fumigated wood which is certified and stamped, or the entire contents and container are fumigated after assembly.  Not easy like it used to be.  Look up the rules at APHIS.  I had to send a Bultaco to England when these rules were adopted.  My home-grown crate ended up in the fireplace.  The Bultaco was dismantled to many little bits then boxed and sent by post.

Patrick Hayes
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John Mead

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Aug 22, 2012, 10:36:15 AM8/22/12
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Do not build the crate from wood!!!!!  If you do it will be held up in customs and the feds will require the wood to be tested for organisms and bill you for these expensive tests.

Go to a motorcycle dealer and get one of the crates used to ship oriental bikes from Japan to Italy.  They will be steel with plastic or foam protection panels.

John Mead

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Mike Peavey

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Aug 22, 2012, 10:43:18 AM8/22/12
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Hi Patrick, 
That's odd, I had my 56' Airone shipped from Made In Italy Motorcycles in Suffolk, UK this past March, shipping by Dynamic International, in the most beautiful wooden crate... So nice, I felt like a heal breaking it open, the sad part was, it was nailed together rather than screwed, in which case I would have saved it.   In addition to making it into the country without a hitch, it even endured having the whole container pulled aside in New Jersey for a US Border Protection inspection and then continued on it's way to Boston. 
Mike Peavey
Boston

Mike Peavey

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Aug 22, 2012, 11:00:30 AM8/22/12
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Should have mentioned, I also got another bike from Belgium this Spring and they used a very simple and nice Kawasaki EX metal crate, which I disassembled and stashed away for future use.   Plus, I think it weighted a lot less than the wooden crate. 

Mike 

antonio

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Aug 22, 2012, 11:52:08 AM8/22/12
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There is a lot of confusing information about wooden crates that travel
from one continent to
another and the rules are the same for all nations. Just recently I sent
a motorcycle from
the USA to Italy. I made the crate myself with wood that had been
purchased from a
company that makes crates and pallets for international shipping. They
did me a favor
And I made the crate so that I could use it again from Italy to the USA
with my own
bike. Now, for wood I mean 2x4s and such, since plywood is (as they call
it) heat treated
and marked as such, which goes to say that a crate made only and
completely out of
plywood, needs nothing unless something changed. I forgot to say that
the company
I bought the lumber from, also gave me a copy of their license to send
along. The
other hassle is that the motorcycle has to partially disassembled with
no oil, fuel nor battery
and shipped as parts . If the bike is left in one piece, without
disassembling, the international
rules will declare it hazardous or dangerous merchandise and it will
subject to inspection
(not free), delays, and additional headaches. This is of course direct
personal experience.
So here is my advice.
remove a few things off the bike,(wheels, fuel tank, headlight) wrap
them in bubble wrap and deliver
all to a professional crate maker that will use the proper stuff, then
have a professional freight forwarder
handle the shipment and follow its advise. They know their business.
Good luck,
Zipolo

Rick

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Aug 22, 2012, 1:37:27 PM8/22/12
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I believe if you use certified fumigated or inspected wood, it will pass customs. Not sure who or what sort of documentation is required but someone had mentioned that on another list.

I've always imported bikes as used parts, in 4-5 separate cartons. Goes through regular freight channels. Virgin Air had been the most economical from Italy to the US.

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Phil Melvin

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Aug 22, 2012, 6:02:35 PM8/22/12
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Hi Mike – Any chance of a picture of the Kawasaki crate – Looking for ideas to ship motorcycles  - regards Phil M –OZ


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Gordon de la Mare

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Aug 22, 2012, 6:40:37 PM8/22/12
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At our shop we have also used Suzuki steel crates to ship UK to Australia.
The crates usually have a cardboard wraparound as well.
They are what Suzukis get shipped to dealers in so just pop round and take a look when they get new stock in.
Most dealers just scrap them or pay to have them removed so there's a good opportunity to make them, and yourself, happy.
Gordon
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Mike Peavey

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Aug 22, 2012, 6:51:02 PM8/22/12
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Can I send a small jpeg to the list or does it need to be in a service?  If so, I'll just shoot Phil something off list.  
Mike 
On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Phil Melvin <p...@exchangeplaza.com.au> wrote:

Hi Mike – Any chance of a picture of the Kawasaki crate – Looking for ideas to ship motorcycles  - regards Phil M –OZ
 

Deno Gualtieri

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Aug 22, 2012, 7:56:53 PM8/22/12
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If you decide to make your own crate out of treated wood make sure that the certification stamp is visible on every piece of wood that you use. Even a small piece of wood with out the stamp could result in the entire crate being quarantined. This happened to the company I work for. The shipment was in China and we had a heck of a time getting it released. Even after we paid the penalty fees. Stick with metal or plywood as suggested.
Dino
 

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Aug 22, 2012, 8:41:19 PM8/22/12
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This past spring a guy I know shipped 56 bikes in a container along with loose parts from USA to Ireland. None of which were in a crate.
 
Tim

graeme studdert

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Aug 24, 2012, 3:57:40 PM8/24/12
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Hi Daniel,

Can you post the email address please.  I live in Australia and don’t want to ring.

Kindest regards

Graeme Studdert

 


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I shipped my 57 airone from Italy 5 years ago. I used a very good shipping company in Italy they crated it and sent it via air. Did a great job. Rosa 011 39 059253144

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Dorien

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Aug 25, 2012, 8:35:15 AM8/25/12
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If he contacts most new bike delers, they have metal crates they get their new bikes in. They will pretty much give them away as they are basically scrap. Saves much building and then fumigating...that how I get my bikes shipped to and from Europe.
Dorien

Don West

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Sep 22, 2012, 9:28:31 AM9/22/12
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Doug
There is one for sale in a dealer close to me.  He sends Morini parts around the world so could probably ship the bike to you if interested
1954 Moto Guzzi Airone 250 Sport
His prices are always a bit on the high side but I am sure he would haggle.
Let me know if you want any more info on it
Don


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Hello all,

I have begun my search for an Airone and am curious as to how much (roughly) it costs to ship from Italy to the U.S.

Thanks,

Doug 


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