Re: [guzzi-singles] New Member '32 Sport 15 owner

[Mac Dennis]

Hi Chris,

That looks like a fine Sport 15 you got yourself there. Can't wait to see it person
and that goes for you too!

Mac

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On May 11, 2013, at 15:27, clct3 <cl...@aol.com> wrote:

Can't seem to attach a photo here but it can be seen here...Sport 15

Recently bought me a 1932 Sport 15 which needs a few bits. Got a parts book for a Sport 14 which is close but could really use the correct parts book. Anyone have access to one?

The grease cup for lubing the exhaust valve is missing which seems to be the only thing that prevents using the bike. Has a few incorrect items and has lots of "Patina"

The photo is from a few years ago and it looks a little older now.

Already in touch with a few of you that I know from the other Guzzi worlds. Hope this group is just a warm and helpful as those.

 

Chris Collins in Wi.

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[Jerome Kimberlin]

On 5/11/2013 12:27 PM, clct3 wrote:

Can't seem to attach a photo here but it can be seen here...Sport 15

Recently bought me a 1932 Sport 15 which needs a few bits. Got a parts book for a Sport 14 which is close but could really use the correct parts book. Anyone have access to one?

Instruction manual:   http://www.rpw.it/Files/Guzzi_Istruzioni1931.pdf
grease cups -  McMaster-Carr #1112K44  will look OK.  This one is 1 oz but they have smaller and larger ones.
Parts manual  Probably not too different from a 14 or a 16.  The 17 is a 3 speed tank shift, but with a swing arm.  All these bikes have many interchangeable parts.  I have a parts manual for a 1935 type "S" .  Not much different than the others.

JerryK

[Don West]

No joy with the parts book but an Italian manual is available here. 
GT 17
Commun aux Tipo Normale, Sport, Sport 14, Sport 15, GT & GT 16

http://guzzitek.org/atelier/monos_et_autres/GT17_Atelier(I).pdf

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Subject: [guzzi-singles] New Member '32 Sport 15 owner

Can't seem to attach a photo here but it can be seen here...Sport 15

Recently bought me a 1932 Sport 15 which needs a few bits. Got a parts book for a Sport 14 which is close but could really use the correct parts book. Anyone have access to one?

[Eric Todd]

make sure you use the factory spatula to put the grease in the cups!
et

[Alan Comfort]

Hi Chris,

Congratulations on the terrific find, The Sport 15 looks quite similar to the '37 500S that should be landed in my garage before the end of May. I expect that I will be opening up this bike in the next few weeks and will no doubt be looking for the parts and information that will be needed to return this Guzzi to service. I will be pleased to trade notes and share resources as the project moves forward.

Regards, Alan in Vancouver

[GuzziSVT]

Welcome aboard Chris, glad to see you final got a single.

Good luck with it. Don't drive it through any high water, Ha! Ha!

I bought a 1100 Sport style timing case for the "Saturday Morning Bomber", this will help move it along to completion.

 

Bill Doll

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[Rick]

Nice pretty complete looking bike! Do you plan to restore it or run the patina?

 

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[antonio]

Rick, sometime the word patina just does not do it. I have a 1937
Moto Guzzi GTW that is exactly as I found it, abandoned in a dealers
back yard in Italy, in 1972; it runs fine but the engine is tired. In my
case the appropriate word is "crust".
Antonio

[Alan Comfort]

Hello Chris,

Any history with this one?

Regards, Alan in Vancouver

[cl...@aol.com]

Got some papers from Italy for registration dates circa early 60's. That's about it, though I do know who the last 2 owners were. Not sure when it was imported but do have a good Texas title.

Anyone ever seen a front fender like this one before? Seller called it an "elephant ear". It seems to be OEM as the paint all matches.

Chris Collins in WI.

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[Alan Comfort]

Looks similar to the one on my '38 Velocette MSS and my '47 Velocette GTP

[cl...@aol.com]

Yes Indeed it does. Wonder who made them? I suppose as you have 2 of them...perhaps Velocette. Perhaps aftermarket?

Chris Collins in WI.

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[Mac Dennis]

And it should be noted that this is not Chris's first single!

He also has a Robin!

Mac

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[Patrick Hayes]

On 5/13/2013 4:27 PM, Mac Dennis wrote:
> And it should be noted that this is not Chris's first single!
> He also has a Robin!
> Mac

Actually, several (I think 3). I was just in his garage a few weeks ago.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

[Eric Todd]

Chris...Just so you know I had no problems registering a Galletto with no paper. Bonded title was simple thru WI DMV..if you need the info/forms let me know.
Fender reminds me of the pics of seen of guzzis in the snow, maybe that bike was meant for Wisconsin all along....
et

[Patrick Hayes]

On 5/13/2013 5:00 PM, Eric Todd wrote:
> Chris...Just so you know I had no problems registering a Galletto with
> no paper. Bonded title was simple thru WI DMV..if you need the
> info/forms let me know.
> Fender reminds me of the pics of seen of guzzis in the snow, maybe that
> bike was meant for Wisconsin all along....

Eric: You must mean this one. I think these fender extensions are just
rubber sheeting.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t61/pehayes/ski1.jpg

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

[Mac Dennis]

Chris, are you holding out on me?

Wanted orange Robin fenders front and rear.
Damn kids want to chop every thing these days.

Mac

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[Patrick Hayes]

On 5/13/2013 5:24 PM, Mac Dennis wrote:
> Chris, are you holding out on me?
>
> Wanted orange Robin fenders front and rear.
> Damn kids want to chop every thing these days.

Mac, also try Bob Mehmen in Shell Rock, IA. I think I saw several
Robins in his shed. Not Internet active.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

[Alan Comfort]

Not aftermarket. They came that way from the factory and you can buy repops from India.

Alan in Vancouver

[cl...@aol.com]

No real spare parts but the orange one I have is the nicest. Kinda using a white one for parts now but nothing I couldn't reverse to get it going too.

Chris Collins in WI.

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[Eric Todd]

YES! Exactly what I was thinking about patrick...That big fender lip is
certainly meant to keep things out and off the engine... Cant place it..
et

[Mac Dennis]

Hey, I'll take any color!

Thanks, Mac

[Mac Dennis]

In Beemer world they were known as elephant ears. I seam to think they were originally associated with Police bikes which kinda makes sense as BMW and Moto Guzzi both had a big market in Police bikes.

Mac

[Mac Dennis]

So Patrick, what are you doing? Rooming the mid west looking into people garages and barns? ;)

Speaking of the mid west.

This year the AMCA meet in Davenport is looking for scooters and minis. I don't know how many Gallettos are in the country but it would be nice to lots of Guzzi singles there strutting between the Indians and Harleys. I have never been but I'm thinking of going this year. Anyone else going?

Mac

[John Ulrich]

That's gotta be the oldest in the US of A!!!

[Jerome Kimberlin]

On 5/13/2013 7:52 PM, John Ulrich wrote:

That's gotta be the oldest in the US of A!!!

You mean the 32 sport is the oldest guzzi in the usa?  Nope.  There is a 1931 GT2VT somewhere in new england that was sold by Nino Epifani in Berkeley a few years ago.  Also, I think Virgil has a 1928 Guzzi Corsa V2 at his Solvang Museum.  He bought it for $17,600 at the Mid America auction in St. Paul in 2002.

JerryK

[Guzz...@aol.com]

I have ridden both my SA & Falcone there in years past..........from Illinois.

Last year my 69' BSA R3.

 

,,,Tim

N. Illinois Rep.

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There was a 1930 something ? out in NY a few years ago at the Paul Smith rally that was claiming that title. The same guy had the bike at Davenport AMCA meet a few years back but I don't remember what model it was.

 

,,,,, Tim

 

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[Don West]

Instruction manual for the 1931 Sport 15 is available from here:- 

 

http://www.rpw.it/Files/Guzzi_Istruzioni1931.pdf

 

The website does contain quitea few Guzzi manuals etc & might be of use to others. 

 

http://www.rpw.it/Documentazione.htm

 

Don

 

 

[s...@blomand.net]

I believe there is a 1921 Normale in the Barber Museum in Birmingham, Al.
Spencer


*That's gotta be the oldest in the US of A!!!*

>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:27:37 PM UTC-5, ccoli wrote:
>
>> Can't seem to attach a photo here but it can be seen here...Sport

>> 15<http://s875.photobucket.com/user/ccoli/media/32Sport15/32-Moto-Guzzi-LS_zpsda4cb9f0.jpg.html>

>> Recently bought me a 1932 Sport 15 which needs a few bits. Got a parts
>> book for a Sport 14 which is close but could really use the correct
>> parts
>> book. Anyone have access to one?
>> The grease cup for lubing the exhaust valve is missing which seems to
>> be
>> the only thing that prevents using the bike. Has a few incorrect items
>> and
>> has lots of "Patina"
>> The photo is from a few years ago and it looks a little older now.
>> Already in touch with a few of you that I know from the other Guzzi
>> worlds. Hope this group is just a warm and helpful as those.
>>
>> Chris Collins in Wi.
>>
>

[s...@blomand.net]

Correction. That Normale may be a 1924.

[antonio]

This a photo of an original set up. Hope it helps.
I have a sport 15 with sidecar myself and it has this fender.
The original color was called Amaranth and it was a deep shade of
purple.
Welcome to the fold!
Antonio

[Chris C]

I think that was mine

CC in Wi.

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There was a 1930 something ? out in NY a few years ago at the Paul Smith
rally that was claiming that title. The same guy had the bike at Davenport
AMCA meet a few years back but I don't remember what model it was.

,,,,, Tim


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kimb...@comcast.net writes:

On 5/13/2013 7:52 PM, John Ulrich wrote:


That's gotta be the oldest in the US of A!!!


You mean the 32 sport is the oldest guzzi in the usa? Nope. There is a
1931 GT2VT somewhere in new england that was sold by Nino Epifani in
Berkeley a few years ago. Also, I think Virgil has a 1928 Guzzi Corsa V2 at his
Solvang Museum. He bought it for $17,600 at the Mid America auction in St

Paul in 2002.

JerryK

[Guzz...@aol.com]

Chris,,,,,,,,,,,,, that photo Antonio showed us has a nice shot of the grease cup setup your missing.

 

 

,,,,,,,Tim

[ccoli]

Got it running last weekend while at Road America at the vintage races. See video here. http://s875.photobucket.com/user/ccoli/library/32Sport15

On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:27:37 PM UTC-5, ccoli wrote:

[Buzz Kanter]

Very cool. I'd love to see more close up detail photos of it and will do the same for my OP 1947 Astorino when I can. 

Buzz Kanter

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Buzz,,,,,,, it's the same bike on the bench with the PO.

Chris let me take a spin on the bike to,,,, it pulls pretty good for an old hunk of iron.

 

 

........Tim

[John Ulrich]

Wow..... Way cool!!! 

[hahnda2]

It rides kind of rough and is on the slow side. You should probably get rid of it while you can.

Ok kidding aside. We did notice some lugs/holes that were in the frame castings that look like they could have been used as sidecar attachments. Anybody know if that is what they were for?

Kevin

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[Rick]

I’d imagine you are correct in thinking they are sidecar attachments.

It would be waaay cool to see that bike in the next Cannonball.

 

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It rides kind of rough and is on the slow side. You should probably get rid of it while you can.

[Patrick Hayes]

On 6/19/2013 12:29 PM, Rick wrote:

> It would be waaay cool to see that bike in the next Cannonball.

I was working with someone trying to get a Guzzi into the Cannonball.
Unfortunately, the last set of rules cut off at pre-1930. The Sport-15
is too new. A Sport-14 would work, but they were produced from 28-31.
You'd have to be able to specifically document the frame as pre-30. Not
so easy to do.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

[hahnda2]

I think the 2014 rally is pre-1936 but registration is already closed.

Patrick Hayes
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[Buzz Kanter]

Yes, the 2014 Motorcycle Cannonball has been increased to 1936 and older bikes. Registration has been closed already but there is a waiting list. I rode a 1915 Harley in the first one, a 1929 Harley in the second one and plan to ride a 1936 Harley in the next one. My Moto Guzzis are all too new. 

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[John Ulrich]

Buzz is right,  We gotta get into vintage cycles and dump this modern stuff!!!  LOL

 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:11:37 PM UTC-5, Buzz Kanter wrote:

Yes, the 2014 Motorcycle Cannonball has been increased to 1936 and older bikes. Registration has been closed already but there is a waiting list. I rode a 1915 Harley in the first one, a 1929 Harley in the second one and plan to ride a 1936 Harley in the next one. My Moto Guzzis are all too new. 

Buzz Kanter

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I think the 2014 rally is pre-1936 but registration is already closed.

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On 6/19/2013 12:29 PM, Rick wrote:

It would be waaay cool to see that bike in the next Cannonball.

I was working with someone trying to get a Guzzi into the Cannonball. Unfortunately, the last set of rules cut off at pre-1930.  The Sport-15 is too new.  A Sport-14 would work, but they were produced from 28-31. You'd have to be able to specifically document the frame as pre-30.  Not so easy to do.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

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[Danilo Gurovich]

36 opens it up to Knuckleheads.  I don't know if that's a good idea.

Danilo Gurovich

Grosse Pointe Farms, MI

[Buzz Kanter]

Yes. 1936 does open it to the first year Knucklehead and the last year non-recirculating VL flatheads. I would be surprised if we see any 1936 ELs on the ride. But you never know. Also the older the bike is the better it scores in case of ties or similar miles in total.

Buzz

[Danilo Gurovich]

Have a particular fondness for knuckles,  my Dad rode one as a cop n 1936.  He's 25 and sitting big on he bike in a pic I have

Danilo Gurovich

[antonio]

You are correct; the 3 lugs, namely under the steering head, under the
saddle, and by the rear hub
were intended for sidecar mounting. I do have a Sport 15 with Sidecar.
Oddly enough the sidecar
was supposed to be mounted on the left side of the bike.
Zipolo

[antonio]

Why not; I think the Knuckleheads are arguably the best looking of all HD engines.
Zipolo  

On 6/19/2013 8:34 PM, Danilo Gurovich wrote:

[Danilo Gurovich]

They are also incredibly reliable, you can do so much to them and keep them stock.  Arguably the EL is absolutely gorgeous.

But I fear it puts many people that might have a Bianchi or other special and more obscure brand at a disadvantage, more so than if they were competing against flatheads, or JDs, for example

Danilo Gurovich

Grosse Pointe Farms, MI

[Buzz Kanter]

1936 EL Knucklehead is one of my favorites. Here is a photo of mine, which I obviously ride year round.

Buzz Kanter

[Alan Comfort]

I do not think it is really about the competition. In my view, any bike and rider that finishes the Cannonball is worthy of note. I have the most admiration for the riders who are able to make repairs along the way and still finish the run. A special hats off goes to those who help their fellow riders stay in the running.

Alan in Vancouver

[Buzz Kanter]

Alan Comfort - agreed. On both rides I helped and was helped by other riders. 

I got a lot more help than I gave - but not out of desire.

Buzz

[ccoli]

OK getting into it a little. Need to get lights functioning to ride it on the street, legally. 

Found the wiring diagram on Benders site. Someone cut 5 of 6 wires off just above the Dynamo so harness is trash. No battery tray on this one,,, THen it seems the headlight may not be original, maybe a bit later 30's or early 40's but it has an indicator (red) bulb in the shell as well as a fuse holder on the other side of where the key goes in. access to the fuse is a slotted screw outside the shell. Headlight lens does not have the hole for the "city" light, thought the bulb holder and shell have it. Headlight and City light should mount into the lens and then touch blade contacts in the shell when you mount up the lens and ring.  Tail light is definitely not stock and missing lens. Have a 30's auto taillight I can use for now. Horn is totally not there. 

So my plan is to just get something to work enough to ride it using a total loss system temporarily.

Will get some picture posted and maybe we can ID this headlight and taillight.  

Chris Collins in Wi.