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Danilo Gurovich

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Dec 25, 2012, 11:11:13 AM12/25/12
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What is Stornello ownership like? I have a line on a regolarita model
that needs a little love, but I think it would be a great little "town"
bike, even for my "large boned" body.

Any thoughts?


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Eric Todd

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Dec 25, 2012, 11:39:16 AM12/25/12
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My thought is that its a cool machine..and I would love to have one as
well. I would think a nice runner would be great to bang around town and
to pull up to the local cafe/coffee shop with some friends. I love the
little bikes...and think that most who keep and ride them are in on a
secret that other riders may be tooo Macho to ever give it a try.
buy it ride and report bike...
et

Danilo Gurovich

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Thx. My favorite bike is my Parilla 250. I'd love to have a Nettuno and an Old Guzzi 250 as well. Going flow never was do much fun.

Danilo Gurovich
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Mac Dennis

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A true Stornello regolarite is quite rear and could bring some money. There are a lot of scramblers around that people call regolarite but are not the true thing. Ether way they should make for a good ride for a big fella with the lower gearing. By all means go for it and if you don't like it I'm sure someone on the list would take it off your hands. Do make sure you know what you are getting and pay accordingly.

Mac

Miles Carnahan

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Great bike for banging around town...I've had mine on a couple Gire de
California's and it's performed admirably.

Miles

Tim O'Mahony

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I have owned my Stornello for about 6 months, and I have put about 75 miles on it around here locally. I have to say I really like this little bike. It is not long on power, but it gets around alright. And it is capable of at least going the speed limit. The 6 volt lighting means I try to limit riding at dusk or after dark, but otherwise I really have fun on it. It gets awesome mileage, and attracts a crowd any time I park it. For a $750 motorcycle, I would say it is a lot of bang for the buck.

But, I like weird Italian crap. That is why I am subscribed to this group. Which makes my opinion (or anybody else's here) suspect!

So, I would recommend that you by that Stornello right away. In fact, today would be good. Or maybe tomorrow, since today is Christmas!

Tim

Mitch Friedmen

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Dec 25, 2012, 11:16:49 AM12/25/12
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I have the ISDT model from what I can tell they only brought in 100 of them into the states.  might want to sell it if anyone wants it as I do not have time to restore it.  Or if there is any good restorers out there maybe we can make a deal.
hope to hear back from someone that can help me
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Mac Dennis

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Don West

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For those interested in the little Guzzi Stornello, there is a Stornello website and forum run by Scrambler Cycle Co from Cameron, WI.  There are a few owners sharing information on there, some pictures, a few downloads of Stornello information etc
http://www.scramblercycle.com/moto-guzzi-stornello.html#/

I have a Turismo model that I am trying to get back together after having spent many years in a very leaky garage!

Don



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Danilo Gurovich

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Mitch, where are you located?  If I start on one its pretty much just as easy to fo more.


Danilo Gurovich
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Douglas Ritchie

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Interested.


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Mitch Friedmen

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Danilo Gurovich

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You might want to talk to Mark Etheridge at Moto Guzzi Classics in the LBC.  He was always very fair with me.  If I get one, I will do my own paint and I would consider painting yours if you don't have a good local source (but its LA!)

Used to live in Northridge.  I miss the Rock Store.


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Brian Daw

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Interesting, I didn't realize they only imported that few.  My wife's uncle bought the one I have new and I wound up with it a couple of years ago.  Someone on the group sent me the specs when I was working on the carb, and that's when I realized there was a scrambler and a separate ISDT model.  Special model or not, it still has that hefty 45mph cruise speed! (using the gps since there is no speedo). On the other hand, it still runs unrestored after all these years and gets about 80mpg.

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Stephen Pate

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I'd be interested in it! Always wanted one for me... And I would prefer to restore one and have it all sorted properly. 

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Danilo Gurovich

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Pic attached.  Any guess about year/type?
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I'd be interested in it! Always wanted one for me... And I would prefer to restore one and have it all sorted properly. 

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I have the ISDT model from what I can tell they only brought in 100 of them into the states.  might want to sell it if anyone wants it as I do not have time to restore it.  Or if there is any good restorers out there maybe we can make a deal.
hope to hear back from someone that can help me
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What is Stornello ownership like?  I have a line on a regolarita model that needs a little love, but I think it would be a great little "town" bike, even for my "large boned" body.

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Don West

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Danilo

That is a Stornello Sport, probably about mid 60's.  Have a check out some bits about it  here

Don


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Danilo Gurovich

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Owner says 56 or 57?  Is the sport the one with the hemi head?

How's $500 for it?


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Mac Dennis

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I have a guy that can fix the cooling fins very reasonably. Email me off the list.

Mac




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Mac Dennis

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I would be in for that!

Mac

j b

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likewise!

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Looks ok for $500. Honda controls and probably need all electrics from the looks of it.
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is the motor stuck ? we have a guzzi guy here in illinois who has some NOS parts. No tin parts but lots of maintenance stuff. Call Bob Farris   ,,,,815- 384-3715
 
 
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Danilo Gurovich

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Motor is free.  Ran two years ago.  Needs re-wire and cosmetics.


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Don West

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Danilo 
I believe the Stornello Turismo was introduced in 1960, The sport model was introduced in 1961 so it must be later than 1957.  The Turismo has a different head and valve arrangement, the front mudguard is fixed to the underside of the top yoke.  On the sport it is fixed to the lower fork leg.  It also has Borranni ali rims so no rot to worry about.
Another source of info can be found here
Wiring is very simple, only about 15 wires on the whole bike. You can get a wiring diagram as a free download from the site above or Scrambler cycle or Guzzitek.  A bit of time on the net will find you plenty of info about them
Wouldn't like to comment on value but $500 don't sound bad, mine cost £150 but was a real wreck.  The damage on the left side of the barrel on yours is unfortunate and could involve rebuilding with weld or a new barrel
A few pics of mine here
Don



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Danilo Gurovich

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Fender hooked to forks.  It's a sport then?  Gawd it needs some clipons.

Love the tank.

Are we thinking its about a 61-ish?


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Don West

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Your's has got the Sport engine, the head is different shape.

Turismo

moto guzzi stornello

Sport
Many Sports do have fork top clip ons. 
There is also a Sport America model, different paint job and most I have seen have higher bars.
As for year, I would guess 61 to 68.  Yours is probably the Sport America

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Stephen Pate

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Anything I would have would ONLY be a wild guess!!!!


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Stephen Pate

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Tough to go wrong for a fiver!


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Stephen Pate

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I swear I've seen that bike before! Good find. There's a sport in ok shape in the AZ desert that could prob be had with some effort. 


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Rick

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Geeze we shut down for a week and a Stornello thread breaks out.

That looks like a Sport. It should have San Remo rims afaik. The difference I know between a Sport and the “Touring” model is the alloy San Remo rims. I think the Sport came with lower bars too.

I thought they all shared the same engine but the ISDT model has the highest output. Larger carb, higher compression and probably a freer flowing exhaust.

The give-aways are a high pipe with a classic trials style muffler, smaller front brake and QD rear wheel. The QD wheel is probably the sure clue as the other things can be swapped out pretty easily. I think the ISDT had a skid plate that was exclusive to it and it had a smaller headlamp with a wire stone guard. Shorter seat and a high front fender as well. The tank is a little differently shaped too I think.

I have one that I converted to trials configuration. Slow but pretty torquey. It has a tough time competing with the Triumph Cubs that seem to dominate the Premier Lightweight trials classes.

 

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Tim O'Mahony

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 For some reason, my browser is not letting me view Danilo's pics. But if it is like the last photo that Don posted, I think he is right about date and model. My Stornello started as a 67 Scrambler, which frankly had the ugliest front fender I have ever seen. After a few months of searching, I was able to locate a Sport fender and header with a non original muffler to make the Sport conversion. I also installed some lower butterfly bars and made shorter control cables. Took it out for a spin yesterday and took these pictures. Funny how this goofy little bike makes me smile!
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Danilo Gurovich

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Pick it up in Indianapolis Tomorrow am.  I think the best description so far is "sport America"...

That's a 12 hp model?

Gotta get a sport seat and clipons though.  Will paint it Boyd Coddington red, and use the highly stylized gambalunga Guzzi Eagles instead of the traditional ones.  They're just perfect for that tank.


Then again maybe shoot the thing Volvo silver?

Hmmm.


Danilo Gurovich
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 For some reason, my browser is not letting me view Danilo's pics. But if it is like the last photo that Don posted, I think he is right about date and model. My Stornello started as a 67 Scrambler, which frankly had the ugliest front fender I have ever seen. After a few months of searching, I was able to locate a Sport fender and header with a non original muffler to make the Sport conversion. I also installed some lower butterfly bars and made shorter control cables. Took it out for a spin yesterday and took these pictures. Funny how this goofy little bike makes me smile!

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Gambalunga eagle.

On the way down now.  Stoked to get my first Guzzi Single.  I'll get used to this one and then see if Antonio will part with one of the prewar ones in his barn-a


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Tim O'Mahony

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Danilo,
 
If you find a source for the early style "clip-ons", as in the bars that mount under the fork top bolts like the earlier style Sport, please let me know. I hafd no luck on these, and obviously with fork shourd/headlight ears, standard clip-ons are out. I ended up using a set of Guzzino's small euro bars to get the low bar Sport effect, but would love to do the early Sport style clip-ons.
BTW, somebody just listed a set of the correct Sport 125 decals on Ebay. I am not going to restore my bike, as I love the patina. But if you are doing a full resto, you might want to check them out.
 
Tim

Danilo Gurovich

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Got bike.  Pretty clean!

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Don West

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Nice one.  Looks good.

Stein Dinse do the seats with the hump for the Sport model

Stein Dinse

The fork top clip ons are for sale on ebay Italy, if you can get them sent to the States



Don


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Danilo,,,,,,, is that a steel rim in the front with an alloy on the back? Lots of elbow grease included ?? :>)
 
 
,,,,,,,,,,,, Tim

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Steel in front.  Gonna have to fix that...


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Don West

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Ali Rim
In case you can't find one in the states.  I am experimenting with rims from a kids motor x bike, 1 x 1.40 (should be 1.60) Still accepts a 2.75 width tyre.  The problem is the rim is drilled for a smaller hub centre and needs the spoke nipple seats reshaping to suit the larger diameter hub or you end up with curved spokes.
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Tim O'Mahony

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Wow! That is clean. And with the exception of the paint, it looks stock. NICE!!!!!
 
You know, if you do a full resto and decide to replace the rusty exhaust, I would be VERY interested in the original one...

Danilo Gurovich

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We'll see.  I'm wondering how much will polish.


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In my experience, nothing on the market will work on chrome as well as One Grand's Chrome Polish. There is some sort of acid in it that eats rust right off chrome like magic. Over the years I have seved customers thousands of dollars of re-chroming by using this stuff.  If that exhaust can be saved, this is the stuff that will do it.

Danilo Gurovich

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I went to their site.  For a company that wants to sell you a product, they do a helluva job to discourage it!

How much is the stuff, and where can I get it on-line?

Danilo
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I took down the Serial numbers --  T 73 GP   Then "CM2273CM" below it.

I looked at the Guzzi NL site, and that shows it as a Sport -- Dunno how to deduce the year.  I'm almost convinced this is a pretty bone-stock Sport America because of the steel front wheel and the bars.  Tank was originally red, and I suspect the fenders were silver, a-la V700 scheme? 

That would make it a '65?

If I were to get an original seat cover to the model instead of the bum-stop style, whet re might I look?

Danilo

Tim O'Mahony

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Dec 30, 2012, 12:54:27 PM12/30/12
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Yea, they are really old school when it comes to marketing. I used to buy it from a distributor when I lived in LA. Now I order it online. This is a link to some place that sells it
I buy the gallon, myself. It will last years, and you will be amazed at how well it works and how often you will use it.

Tim

Don West

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Dec 30, 2012, 1:24:08 PM12/30/12
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I would say 65 is about right.  Mine is 65 Turismo model, numbers N35LH.  Engine and frame numbers should match.
I have seen pictures of one in red and silver:-


Stornello1

As for the seat cover, any good upholsterers should be able to make you one from vinyl.  I reckon this one has a steel seat base and foam, whereas the Stornello is normally a frame with springs, horse hair and leather cover!


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Dec 30, 2012, 4:23:18 PM12/30/12
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Danilo........... don't forget about Harper's for your parts too.
 
,,Tim
 
In a message dated 12/30/2012 11:54:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, darm...@msn.com writes:
Yea, they are really old school when it comes to marketing. I used to buy it from a distributor when I lived in LA. Now I order it online. This is a link to some place that sells it
I buy the gallon, myself. It will last years, and you will be amazed at how well it works and how often you will use it.

Tim
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dryde...@aol.com

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Dec 31, 2012, 6:27:19 AM12/31/12
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Tim:
 
Thanks for the link. I also wanted to try some on a few pieces before I have them re-chromed.  I was getting discouraged thinking I'd actually have to call them and speak to somebody. :)  
 
Upstate Mark
 
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