Guzzi stornello 125 sport america 1965

[robert mcwilliams]

Am in great need of a set of steering head bearings or info on where to locate same or specs for the cones if possible, Thanks Robert

[Don West]

Hi Rob  

They are extremely hard to find.  I managed to get some from an old Zigolo that was beyond repair for one of my bikes that has been running some really badly pitted ones for a few years.  You could try Guzzi Retro to see if they can help.  The balls are easily available from any bicycle shop.  

Don  

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Am in great need of a set of steering head bearings or info on where to locate same or specs for the cones if possible, Thanks Robert

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[robert mcwilliams]

Thanks, anymore Zigs lying about, have tried Retro but no luck. Any old cups that can  be measured? Robert.

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[robert mcwilliams]

Hello, the bearing cups are the final items to finish the project, very frustrating. Robert.

[Don West]

Hi Robert  

Where abouts in the world are you?  

Harpers have the top and bottom cups in stock in America, but don't seem to have the cones (2 required)  part number 36515200.  The ball bearings are just standard 3/16th size and are available from any half decent bicycle shop. 

https://harpermoto.com/products/cup-24515000 

https://harpermoto.com/products/cup-24515100?_pos=1&_sid=153c54248&_ss=r  

Do you have an old set of bearings?  I have run my Stornello on quite badly pitted cups for a few years and it is not really noticeable when out on the road.  If you are in the UK, there is a place that claim to be able to make bearings, The Vintage Bearing Co in Burton on Trent.  http://www.vintagebearings.co.uk  

Regards 

Don West  

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[andrew schmid]

Hello. I’m relatively new to the group. I’ve owned and worked on a couple 1967 V7’sfor many years and recently acquired a 1950 Astore. As simple as it may sound changing of the oil is nothing like the V7’s and not much in the literature. Could someone give me a brief description of a simple oil change. Thank you. Al also, my oil dipstick reads different from the recommended volume of oil to use. I wonder which I should rely on? Thanks much, Andy Schmid.

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[jerry atric]

What size are the races, Robert? I have a set but not sure which model they are off. I'm in UK.

[robert mcwilliams]

Hello, have ordered a cup (as they only had one but better than none) so should be able to machine up another ( or get a more skilled person to do it for me) Thanks again. Robert. PS you really do not want to know of the bodge I resorted to so that She would pass rego !!!!!!!!!!

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Hello, looks like great news as only need the cups so will get on the case. Am in Australia and Stornello 125 are very rare beasts out here in fact when I registered mine it was the first so everything had to be created from scratch ( from info I gave them!). Thanks again, Robert.

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[robert mcwilliams]

Hello, looks like great news as only need the cups so will get on the case. Am in Australia and Stornello 125 are very rare beasts out here in fact when I registered mine it was the first so everything had to be created from scratch ( from info I gave them!). Thanks again, Robert.

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[Rick Yamane]

Robert, Once you get the new one I would try matching it up at bicycle or motorcycle shops. You can probably get them from a bearing supply house too. I’ll bet real money they are a standard size.
I’d recommend getting real and new bearing parts too, if you plan on riding the bike. Steering heads are simple to service but to me, they are kind of a PIA and tend to get overlooked in the grand scheme of things. Better to do them once correctly and probably never need to worry about them again.
That said as others have offered, I probably have used ones. I have an old frame sitting in the yard……

Rick

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[robert mcwilliams]

Hello, things are looking up, still need one more cup but should be able to use the one from Harper as a template. Robert.

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[Don West]

Hi Robert  

The top and bottom cups are different depths, but that is not really critical.  You should be able to measure the depth of the recess in the top and bottom of the frame  

As you are probably aware, the steering stem is quite small compared to most bikes.  From memory it is approximately 3/4 of an inch or 18mm, you will be able to get that dimension off your stem.  You should see the machined section where the cones sit on the stem.  

Don  

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[Patrick Hayes]

On 11/17/25 05:46, andrew schmid wrote:
> Could someone give me a brief description of a simple oil change. Thank
> you. Al also, my oil dipstick reads different from the recommended
> volume of oil to use.

Andrew, I'm confused. Your Astore is nothing like a V7.
The Astore has a dry sump motor. While running, oil from the supply
tank is injected into and flung all around inside the crankcase. It
puddles at the bottom and is quickly pumped back up into the supply
tank. The oil pump has two parallel functions. One side pumps in oil
and the other side pumps out oil. Thus, there isn't ever any
significant sump puddle.

Dipstick???? The singles don't have a dipstick unless some previous
owner bodged up something. How about a picture for us?

Changing the oil is quit simple. I just use a small, clear hose to
siphon oil out of the tank via the filler neck. Helps to tip the bike
slightly to that side. If you really want to clean out the tank and the
oil filter, then you can pull the fittings from the other side of the
tank (but be careful with pressure on the banjo fittings).

2.5 quarts is probably fine. The level should appear overlapping the
bottom edge of the filler neck as you look in with a light.


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[robert mcwilliams]

Hello, have two cones (upper and lower) and all the balls but cups or specs of same I do not. The part number for both cups is the same. Have ordered a cup from Harpermoto so hope it is correct. Am being somewhat selfish as trying to get all the bits before doing this final job as she is my only transport. Robert

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[robert mcwilliams]

Have upper and lower cones and all the balls but no cups or specs for same.  Harper could only supply one cup which I hope is the correct one. If you have an ojd one could you send measurements of same? ID, OD , height  etec thanks Robert.

[andrew schmid]

Thank you so much for the description. Much appreciated.
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[Don West]

Hi Robert  

The cups fit into the frame and the top and bottom cups do have different part numbers.  One is deeper than the other.  You should see that the recess in the top and bottom of the frame are of different depths.  The part numbers are 24515000 and 24515100.  Harpers website did say that they had both in stock, it is now saying that they have 2 of part number 2415000 left and no stock of 24515100.  Have another word with them about this item.  It might be just what you are needing.  

https://harpermoto.com/products/cup-24515000

The cones fit on the steering stem and are the same top and bottom.  

I will dig my set out later and do some measurements for you.  

Don  

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[RICHARD YAMANE]

Robert,

I don’t know if you’ve seen this site but it’s a good collection of info on various makes and models. There is Stornello stuff here.

http://www.rpw.it/documentazione.htm

Rick Yamane
Importer of Vape/Powerdynamo ignition systems and Polisher of bikes at Motion Pro

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[robert mcwilliams]

Don , thanks again for info and have ordered the cup. My parts book lists the cups as the same but the cones different so becoming a bit of a mystery, I bow to your greater knowledge as my bike came without any cups at all so as I may have mentioned the bodge to make her at least rideable is not worth thinking about. Robert.

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[robert mcwilliams]

Hello, thanks for the link, will check it out fully in a while. Robert.

[Don West]

Hi Rob  

Here are the pages from the parts list, see attached.  The 2 cones are both part 40 The cups are 42 and 43.  

You can get a copy of the parts book from my dropbox file here.  

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2thm0g89px2lwu47ew6f6/MGuzzi_Stornello_Sport-Scrambler_Parts_list.pdf?rlkey=2bwxhot6tmens80jd695rwa3b&st=gy7bp8sl&dl=0  

I will dig out some bearings to check the sizes for you tomorrow,  

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[robert mcwilliams]

Hello thanks and all that , my mistake, cups are different cones the same, will send back to Harpers the cup I don't need, Still need the other though. will sort out what I got and number for the other when the cup arrives. I have a parts book 2nd Edition and still managed to muck it up, old age etc etc. Robert.

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[Don West]

Hi Rob

I had a look at my set today and have attached some photos for you.  The lower bearing is the deeper one, you will see that the recess in the frame is deeper.  

I am getting slightly confused as to just which parts you are needing now and what you have got.  Please explain.  

Don  

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