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K M Edgar

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Apr 30, 2010, 10:47:35 PM4/30/10
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Teresa = treeNWVA& Helen = Stormie,

You two are soooooooo welcome. I hope like heck we can all help one
another with our guinea fowl problems; etc.

I'm not incubating eggs...using Game Fowl Hens. We're still
experiencing tough weather for guinea eggs.


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Kelly

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Stormie

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Apr 30, 2010, 11:17:14 PM4/30/10
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Thanx, Kelly! All I have to do is get the hang of another variation
of mailing group . . . *lol*

Stormie

Geoffrey Edgar

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May 1, 2010, 2:14:20 AM5/1/10
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Helen,

I set the permissions too high within the "group" so your submitted messages were held up to be "moderated".   I let them through and then reset the permissions to allow you (and everyone else) to post freely.  I was not aware of the strict settings...to be truthful.  I just found out about them within the last 30 minutes when I went to find out why yours as well as Teresa's messages were not posting...duh me.

Teresa (tree) NW VA

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May 1, 2010, 6:32:54 AM5/1/10
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I may be using my Brinsea Octagon20 Eco this year just to get the hang
of it again. It's small but I never hatch out a huge number at a
time so it's perfect for me.
Interesting thing ... I've never had the issues others have noted on
the Forum regarding humidity... or even the temp problems .. I do
agree that it's sometimes hard to stabilize the temp in still air
incubators, and though some have said the higher temp required by
these is wrong, it's not wrong .. it's due to the layering of air in
that type incubator. You have to have a higher reading at the top of
the egg for the overall temp in the incubator to be correct.

tree


> I'm not incubating eggs...using Game Fowl Hens. We're still
> experiencing tough weather for guinea eggs.

>

Mammy...@aol.com

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May 1, 2010, 6:50:16 AM5/1/10
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That makes perfect sense, tree, cuz that's how it is when Mama is incubatin' her own eggs.:0)

T. Sihler

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May 1, 2010, 6:58:46 AM5/1/10
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yep .. I'm always amazed at how hot it gets under a chicken when they're setting !  
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Geoffrey Edgar

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May 1, 2010, 9:39:39 AM5/1/10
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Teresa,

That is a bit of cleverness on your part...figuring out the temperature layers.  I could only get our L-G I have to provide me with about 50% hatches.  I figured ....why worry and fuss with an incubator when I know chickens do that well (or better).  Now I have 21 Game Fowl hen..pretty and friendly incubators...who practically wait in line to be turned on in sequence.

T. Sihler

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May 1, 2010, 1:02:26 PM5/1/10
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I totally agree .. I'm planning to utilize my Silkie hen for most hatching .. will probably put a few into the incubator.  Don't have to worry about the power going off with my chicken !   

Teresa

Stormie

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May 1, 2010, 2:00:48 PM5/1/10
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Ok, I'm buying into the henubator idea.  My question is about Game Fowl ~  you describe them as pretty and friendly.  My image of Game Fowl seems to be tainted from the fighting cocks, because I see Game Fowl henubators as being a bit daunting to try to shuffle eggs under.  Kinda like that picture of Larry with his arm leaking blood in numerous places after running up against a guinea henubator.  Are they really friendly if raised in non-threatening conditions?   
 
Stormie 
 

T. Sihler

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May 1, 2010, 3:08:41 PM5/1/10
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Actually any hen can be a nasty specimen when her eggs/chicks are threatened.  I doubt the Game Fowl hens are any worse than my Silkie or any other setting hen.    (One of my previous Silkies could pinch so hard it drew blood, and she wouldn't give up) Same with roosters .. I've had Dominique roosters which were about as mean as anything you could imagine.

tree

moxeeguy

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May 1, 2010, 6:05:15 PM5/1/10
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Helen,

I suspect the GF hens are quite a bit meaner as far as defending their
eggs. Put on a pair of gloves and wear a long sleeved
sweatshirt....you won't feel much more than a slight pinch at that
point of readiness. Its not like you have to keep reaching in there
to exchange the eggs. Just once is all it takes. As far as
protecting the brood ofbabies once they're hatched...no other breed of
chicken will come close. The GF hens will behave just like the
roos...fighting to the death other birds or predators threatening
their babies (chicks/keets/ducklings/goslings/peafowl poults/turkey
poults) did I leave out anything? One persononce remarked on a
poultry forum how tough and mean her Silkie hen was...I replied that
"any one of my GF hens would rip her Silkie hen a new cloaca if she so
much as looked at her crosswise"...LOL. That one still makes me
chuckle.

Stormie

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May 1, 2010, 7:37:57 PM5/1/10
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*chuckle*  Yeah, I think I'm going to have to 'appropriate' that expression myself.  What about when they're not Mom'ing it?  Are they fairly laid back then? 
 
Stormie 
 

From: moxeeguy

Helen,

I suspect the GF hens are quite a bit meaner as far as defending their
eggs.  Put on a pair of gloves and wear a long sleeved
sweatshirt....you won't feel much more than a slight pinch at that
point of readiness.  Its not like you have to keep reaching in there
to exchange the eggs.  Just once is all it takes.  As far as
protecting the brood of babies once they're hatched...no other breed of

chicken will come close.  The GF hens will behave just like the
roos...fighting to the death other birds or predators threatening
their babies (chicks/keets/ducklings/goslings/peafowl poults/turkey
poults) did I leave out anything?  One person once remarked on a

poultry forum how tough and mean her Silkie hen was...I replied that
"any one of my GF hens would rip her Silkie hen a new cloaca if she so
much as looked at her crosswise"...LOL.  That one still makes me
chuckle.

Kelly

moxeeguy

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May 1, 2010, 8:27:57 PM5/1/10
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Helen,

I had a similar conversation a few days ago but it was about the Game
Fowl roos. One of my clients said she had a roo that was extremely
belligerent towards her...a Barred Rock...dual purpose. I told her
that the Game Fowl roos a comparative "fraidy cats"....same with the
hens...they're prone to run away from you when you're approaching ....
vs. walk toward you. However; when you call them for feeding...they
come running. Honestly the dual purpose roos like RIR and Rocks and
Orps are territorial and several times more aggressive toward humans
than Game Fowl.

Stormie

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May 1, 2010, 8:52:24 PM5/1/10
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How odd.  Those are the one they use in fighting though, aren't they?  Must be that excellent training.  *mumble*mumble*  Not to raise any hackles (pun intended) but I'm not a fan of "the sport".  So if I got Game Hens, handled them from chickhood, spoiled them with treats, they would be as tame a pet as any other chicken?  Until they took a clutch upon themselves to hatch and raise? 
 
Stormie 
 

From: moxeeguy

moxeeguy

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May 2, 2010, 8:05:09 AM5/2/10
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Stormie,

The Game Fowl as a breed has been around a loooooooooooong time. They
are not so far removed from the Jungle fowl. . They are less
domesticated in some ways...less tame and therefore....more afraid of
humans. The other LF dual purpose breeds I listed are more
domesticated. Those breeds (RIR, Rocks, Orps, etc) seem to have lost
their fear of people and as a result actually don't run off when you
approach. As a result they get mad when you infringe upon their
space....and will come at you with their spurs.

You might consider trimming your posts...it prevents posts form being
repeated over and over in the thread ! ! !

Thanks,

Stormie

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May 2, 2010, 10:42:50 AM5/2/10
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Can do!  Some of the lists I'm on prefer that we at least leave the last post so the readers (especially us absent-minded ol' folk) will remember what it is the answer is referring to.  Like this.  That work? 
 
Stormie 
 

From: moxeeguy

You might consider trimming your posts...it prevents posts form being
repeated over and over in the thread ! ! !

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