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[Donna Winters]

dulcie walks round puddles when working .but if free running loves any water to swim or puddles muddy or not to paddle in .she does not roll in poo though or have i just tempted fate .lol .donna



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Had a run in a park one day with what I learned to be a big sedentary pond full of algae and rubbish. So stinky green covered dog and I crossed the road walked about 5 minutes and into the sea for a swim. Sat drying out for a while then bus back. Much easier to brush sand/salt out instead of stinky algae.
Not a great experience but nothing I could do once it happened, better him than me. Not gone near the pond again needless to say. He is not happy dirty though, not one of those dogs who has ever rolled in poo. He even avoids puddles whenever he can, which is great for me.

Nadine Lattimore

> On 5 Feb 2014, at 09:13, pam <pamyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> hi vince
> i like to take callie to quiet places too for a free run. the place i used to bring her to is all enclosed but it's always really muddy and o ya full of sticks which she likes to eat and i don't enjoy cleaning up dog sick. i found another relitively stick free place which is also enclosed. there is a pond there though which gets really muddy after the rain. the first time we took her there she jumped in to the pond and needed a bath. so going to wait until the weather improves before bringing her there again.
> pam
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>> On 4 Feb 2014, at 21:49, Vincent Thacker <vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Sorry if this is a repeat, but I can't follow what just happened with my email. Dur.
>> Zym doesn't get free runs half often enough, and I don't have anyone around to assist me with it at the moment.
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>> But all is not lost, because I can let him run around on a long flexi-lead. It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing. Now he's got the hang of it, he realises he can run about and sniff and do what dogs do; all except running off in search of discarded takeaway packages! or malt loaves, wrapping and all, which allegedly he managed to steal on one occasion. I was ready for that to be a serious issue, but he hasn't shown any ill-effects.
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>> I know one place where it's pretty safe to let him go, but it's about 4 miles away, and not on a bus route as far as I know. It's a park well away from roads, and with enough space to play with his ball or some other toy. Usually deserted, too, so he can't bother picnickers, kids with footballs or other dogs, which he might do in more crowded parks. I might try to get to this place once we've stopped having all these storms, which assuredly doesn't help anyone. Beautiful day here today, but it's started raining now, and no doubt won't know when to stop.
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>> Vince.
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>> Hi I was told at least once a week for Pearl but due to the weather and not
>> having anyone to go with very often she doesn't have that many.
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>> Debbie and Pearl
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[Donna Winters]

i am lucky to have free running areas just 8 minutes walk from my house .one is a fenced in tarmac area and the other is a path with open grass areas ,and a woods .the walk can be made as long or short as you like with plenty of free running dogs if you want and most are friendly .when i dulcie off for a free run she will not leave me unless i give her a toy to run with .

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Hi I do agree that the schools should do more off leash training. I was
lucky with Hawk his puppy raiser is a person who has raised a few puppies
and he works with puppies off leash training as a puppy. He works with
recall with them and I have enjoyed it he showed me where to start with it
in the house and playing. If you want to show your dog good ways to play
when playing toss you tell your dog to sit and wait and then toss the toy
and make them sit until they are com and then tell them to go and get the
toy and bring it back to you. If you have a dog like Hawk he has a hard
time sitting there but guess what after a few times doing this the dog is
more com and then gets happy to do as you tell them as I learned with Hawk
and he thinks this is a game and recall can be different games and each dog
does react differently to this and I find if his favorite person is around
he has a harder time listening so I have used this when it is just me and
Hawk and everyone is busy and I find we are better for this.

From Black Hawk

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Hey Doug,

When I got my first dog from TSE(not my first guide dog, but the first from
there), in 2004, they were still trotting out that letter!

And, like you, I haven't had any dead dogs yet, and all of mine have done
free runs when I can find safe places to do it.



Practicing obedience both on and off lead is still a biggie, though. Most
schools over here just don't do enough of it.

Only my opinion, though.

Cait



On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Doug Parisian <egg...@mymts.net
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Well, I ain't have no dead dogs yet over the past 30 years.

As I've already said, when you have your dog free to have their own space
and body awareness, be sure that:

1. Your fence is solid and secure.

2. Spring load all gates and ensure that they close with a catch to keep
them in the closed position until someone releases the catch.

3. Be outside with your dog.

4. Some may wish to attach a bell to the collar for easier monitoring.

5. If using a dog park, be sure that you have a wise and trustworthy
sighted person.

All the above will go easier if one spends proper and effective time
training off leash.

But hey, all you determined leashers! We used to put a rope on my younger
brother when we went fishing near a heavy waterfall. I've actually met
parents who have their young children on a leash while shopping. Too bad
for some that the parents don't include one of those real cool pinch
collars.

Even TSI now encourages off-leash play which they certainly did not do on my
first trip in 1977. Darn, they even hauled out a rather tragic letter from
a student whose dog apparently got loose and was made two-dimensional by a
passing car. They read the same letter on my second and third trips in 1979
and 1989. It was apparently retired on my subsequent trainings.

Being the disobedient sort, I allowed all my dogs free play in controlled
settings and found that it took care of excess energy resulting in more
concentration during work time.

And now, here come the yabuts.

On 06/02/2014 6:51 AM, Don Marr wrote:

we're supposed to have them on leash at all times, guides have been known to
escape fences and get killed, and even if my yard was fenced, would still
keep him or her on a flexie, Don

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Don, why did they tell you that? I'm sure most guide dog providers urge
owners to let their dogs run about occasionally, and just be dogs. It seems
unnecessary to restrict a guide dog by not letting it run.

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I'd never let my dog off leash, we were told never to do it, even with a
fenced in yard, so i don't, he doesn't like to run anyway, Don

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Would folks here usually go free running with eyes?

N

On Tuesday, February 4, 2014, Vincent Thacker <vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk

<mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk> > wrote:

Sorry if this is a repeat, but I can't follow what just happened with my
email. Dur.
Zym doesn't get free runs half often enough, and I don't have anyone around
to assist me with it at the moment.

But all is not lost, because I can let him run around on a long flexi-lead.
It's not ideal, but it's better than nothing. Now he's got the hang of it,
he realises he can run about and sniff and do what dogs do; all except
running off in search of discarded takeaway packages! or malt loaves,
wrapping and all, which allegedly he managed to steal on one occasion. I was
ready for that to be a serious issue, but he hasn't shown any ill-effects.

I know one place where it's pretty safe to let him go, but it's about 4
miles away, and not on a bus route as far as I know. It's a park well away
from roads, and with enough space to play with his ball or some other toy.
Usually deserted, too, so he can't bother picnickers, kids with footballs or
other dogs, which he might do in more crowded parks. I might try to get to
this place once we've stopped having all these storms, which assuredly
doesn't help anyone. Beautiful day here today, but it's started raining now,
and no doubt won't know when to stop.
Vince.




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Hi I was told at least once a week for Pearl but due to the weather and not
having anyone to go with very often she doesn't have that many.

Debbie and Pearl

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[Donna Winters]

i have two pet dogs that go this walk so i could go every day if i want .some days i go and just work dulcie on the path which goes through it . instead of giving her a free run .donna










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hi julia
nice to know i'm not the only 1 who's husband can't b bothered going for a free run that offten. callie's recall is also very good but i still wouldn't do it on my own and + we have to drive to any free run area.

pam

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> Here in the UK, we are advised not to free run our dogs more than once a week. The thinking is so that dogs dont become fixated on free runs and I can identify with that one as my last guide dog was awful,as I took him for a run every day which I think was the cause of things going wrong for us. I was also told not to free run Wren locally, on a route we walk regularly, and I've found out from experience why, as she willt hen expect to go running and play me up. She's not had one in a long time as I have to wait for hubb y to be willing to take us. But we have a garden which isnt huge but she can bounce round that and often chooses to come out with me when I tend my guinea pigs. But she is very trim and her weight is good, so I dont worry, except I enjoy the free runs too, to amble thru the fields while Wren lets off steam. Hopefully whent he better weather comes hubby will get off his arse and go with us.
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> just curious really as to how offten you all take your dogs for a free run? callie hasn't had a proper run for a while due to the weather and my husband being sick.
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[Donna Winters]

no i have never run my dogs alone or i dont think i never will just incase there is a nasty dog having a free run .i would never forgive myself if she was attacked .where if you have a sighted person with you at least they can help the dog .round here we usally know the nasty dogs so having that sighted person with me means we can take another route . .

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No, nor would I want to free run alone, there is a huge field near here
which I can and do get to alone, I walk round it to visit a friend, but it
can be a bit lonely at times, as its got woods once side and often no one
around so I dont think I'd want to loiter alone. My hubby likes walking, he
is just a man, and moans its too cold or his legs ache or he's got a
headache!!

[pam]

ya exactly u just never know what could happen if u were on your own.

pam

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[Jennie Harrison]

I free run Chloe alone at a park near me. I have no choice really as she would hardly ever get a run usually. I do prefer running her with a sited person. to keep chloe out of trouble I use a ball and a chucker (plastic stick with cup for holding the ball on the end, it helps it fly further) chloe chases the ball and retrieves it to me. when she is chasing back and forth she doesn't get in any bother like rolling in puddles!! I also have bells on her and her recall is great. I hear what you are saying re the dog attacks and it is a worrying one.
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[J Kimbell]

They are brill, those ball throwers, arent they? You can get shorter ones
now which are a lot easier to carry about.

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[J Kimbell]

I used to run my other 2 guide dogs alone, I've just been advised not to
with Wren and I dont have the confidence to do so now.

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[pam]

here we r told not to let the dogs play with balls, because if they r working and see kids playing with a ball they could get distracted. this is easier said than done though with 2 kids who have a few footballs and tennis balls in the garden.

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[J Kimbell]

We are told the same really, but so many give their dogs balls anyway. Guide
dog handlers that is. I think if they arent exposed to them as puppies, they
are less likely to cause problems as adults, just my thinking. A local PW I
know's last dog was rejected as a guide dog he didnt make the grade as she
said she made themistake of letting him play with balls in the park and he
became obsessed with them, real shame as he was a lovely dog and but for
that would have been a really good dog, a bit ploddy, but he was a sweet
boy. We've played with Wren with the ball thrower on free runs but it hasnt
made her fixated with balls, thankfully.

[Jennie Harrison]

hi Pam
we are told that here too, however if playing with a ball doesn't seem to alter the dogs work then according to my GDMI it is ok. I am lucky in that if I walk past people playing with balls chloe doesn't turn a hair. I play VI tennis too, and can have chloe on court without her bothering about the balls
jen x

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> here we r told not to let the dogs play with balls, because if they r working and see kids playing with a ball they could get distracted. this is easier said than done though with 2 kids who have a few footballs and tennis balls in the garden.
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>> They are brill, those ball throwers, arent they? You can get shorter ones now which are a lot easier to carry about.
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>> Julia
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[Derek Hornby]

Hi Jen
I agree with you.
I also have no problems with ball playing.

Guide dog owners should just do as they feel best.

Derek

[J Kimbell]

I guess its just knowing your dog, isnt it?

[pam]

ya i think u r right there julia. callie plays with balls sometimes in the garden but she doesn't seem fixated with them and we have seen kids playing with a tennis ball once on a walk. she had a look but other than that she didn't seem too bothered.

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[pam]

ya agree deric

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[pam]

hi jen
well i don't feel so bad for letting her play with a ball now lol. i suppose because she is my first dog i didn't want to break any of the rules. but throwing a ball is good exercise for her too.

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[Sandra Heaton]

Its not really safe for me to take a dog for a free run on her own. When I
start working Karen again I am going to be very nervous taking her back in
the park again. Its not a proper park really its more like a natural woods
with lots of hills and very uneven ground. there is no where else! when I
first had a guide dog which was back in the 80's I used to take her on the
School field but I can't do that any more now.




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[Many of us]

Sandra,
Have you anyone to help you to take her for a run? I get help with Nitro.
I'd never go alone!
Its far too dangerous, and even a dog with the utmost good recall might get
lost. Plus Nitro loves swimming, and sometimes he takes off and jumps in the
river!
Shirley

[Jennie Harrison]

it is a very difficult one. I am lucky also in that chloe has a very strong retrieve instinct as she is a full retriever so is very fixed on bringing the ball back to me. I try and go to the park when there are a few other people there, so even if she does get attacked or lost there are plenty of people around to help. I am also lucky in that the entrence to the park consists of a very wide smooth path with big bits of grass at either side so I just stand on the edge of the path and throw the ball.
does anyone find that if their dog does not go for a free run after more than a week they get giddy?
thanks
jennie

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[Many of us]

Yes, I do. I find Nitro is restless. He has boundless energy to use up.
Sometimes, if I dont get a chance to take him for a free run i just take him
for a good long walk. It helps.
Shirley

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[pam]

yes i find callie gets wrestless also if she hasn't had a free run for a week. so i try to at least give her a good run around the garden if there's noone to take us for a free run. she's usually tired after about 20 minutes half hour at the most and her weight is fine.

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[Many of us]

On the subject of weight, Nitro put on 10 pound over xmas! I dont know how
he did that because I didnt give him treats. He gets raw carrots, and an
apple every now and then. Those dont have too many calories in them. He did
get a little turkey and ham on xmas day for a treat, but other than that he
had nothing. I walked him a lot, so I dont know how he did it. All I can
think is that I was giving him a little extra food, because on weighing him
in december he was a very low 31 kg. He's usually between 32 and 34 and his
max weight is 35. I hope when I take him to be weighed this month he's lost
some weight!
Shirley

[J Kimbell]

Thats partly why I woulnd t free run alone now, just in case Wren did clear
off. Not very likely, but not worth taking the chance.

[J Kimbell]

Oh, Wren's OK, but she is bonkers full stop!!
Julia

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[J Kimbell]

Wren is giddy fullstop!!
Julia

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[pam]

hi shirley
callie's max weight is 32 kg. she was 31 kg last time i got her weighed. but with all the bad weather she hasn't been working as much as before and also not doing as many free runs at the moment either. so i've cut her food back just a bit. like u i give her a carrot once a week for a treat. she gets a raw hyde now and again but hasn't had 1 of them for a while now.

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Hey Pam,
Yeah Nitro gets a raw hyde chew every few weeks, I have a big bag of them
which I've had since last year. He doesnt get too many. He does love them
though.

Shirley

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[Sandra Heaton]

Hi Shirley,

Yes I do have my husband but then he is visually impaired but he does have
quite a lot of useful vision but there was no telling that my dog had hurt
her pad on her front paw the other week. Its a real shame because I had
only just qualified a couple of months ago and now its going to be another
week or two before I can start working her properly again.

sorry Shirley are you new to the group? My dogs name is Karen.

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[pam]

hi sandra
aw your poor dog. do u know how she hurt her paw? there's been a couple of times when i've been out walking with callie where there's been broken glass on the ground. thankfully she didn't hurt her paw. not sure how she avoided it as it was in the centre of the path. i only found out about the glass afterwards when my sister told me.

pam

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[Sandra Heaton]

Hi Pam,

She was just on a free run and we heard her yelp and when we got her home it
was my daughter she pointed out that her paw was bleeding. It was very
muddy in the park when we took her it was like walking on a beach if you see
what I mean you were sinking in to it all the time and squelching. Its not
very nice so I GUESS she didn't see it and we obviously didn't see what ever
it was. All we know is that she has sliced her pad so it was quite tender.
we have had her to the vets and the guide dog vets in Manchester and she has
just finished a course of Antibiotics and she has got about three pain
relievers left. The dog welfare person is coming this Friday to have a look
at the paw. to me, it seems that it might be healing nicely. I am hoping
that I am at least going to be able to start working with her again after
this week. Only if we just go to the bottom of the street or something just
to get her going again.

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[Louise Redsull]

Hi Jen,
We were told that dogs shouldn't have balls to play with. However, Billie
kept taking balls belonging to other dogs and I felt it was safer for him to
have a ball. It's never affected his work and now he's not as bothered about
chasing a ball. Still he's an expert at finding them when we go out!

Louise.

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[Louise Redsull]

Yep Billie gets hyper if not out enough.
I've found it really hard getting him out as much as I'd like lately. We
always go out at least once at weekends but during the week is difficult as
he will always get dirty and need to be hosed down. He takes hours to dry
and then get groomed before work the next morning.
Still it's going to be back to early starts as he's put on a little weight
over the last couple of months and needs more exercise and his food
reducing!

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Yep I'm cutting Billie's food down as he's put on weight.

Louise.


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[Louise Redsull]

I currently don't walk Billie alone as the area we go is hard for me to
navigate on my own. Billie also doesn't like it if I just stand there and
won't run so much. I did use to free run him alone and did enjoy doing this.
I appreciate there are risks but think it can be good bonding to go alone
with your dog.

Louise.


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Subject: Re: In Reply To: [guidedogchat] Re: free run

I free run Chloe alone at a park near me. I have no choice really as she
would hardly ever get a run usually. I do prefer running her with a sited
person. to keep chloe out of trouble I use a ball and a chucker (plastic
stick with cup for holding the ball on the end, it helps it fly further)
chloe chases the ball and retrieves it to me. when she is chasing back and
forth she doesn't get in any bother like rolling in puddles!! I also have
bells on her and her recall is great. I hear what you are saying re the dog
attacks and it is a worrying one.
Jen x

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> On 8 Feb 2014, at 17:03, pam <pamyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ya exactly u just never know what could happen if u were on your own.
> pam
>

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>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 16:48, "Donna Winters" <donna....@googlemail.com>
wrote:
>>

>> no i have never run my dogs alone or i dont think i never will just
incase there is a nasty dog having a free run .i would never forgive myself
if she was attacked .where if you have a sighted person with you at least
they can help the dog .round here we usally know the nasty dogs so having
that sighted person with me means we can take another route . .
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J Kimbell - Email Address: whitet...@ntlworld.com Sent On:
>> 10/04/2002 03:45 Sent To: guided...@freelists.org - Email Address:
>> guided...@freelists.org
>> Subject: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
>>
>> No, nor would I want to free run alone, there is a huge field near
>> here which I can and do get to alone, I walk round it to visit a
>> friend, but it can be a bit lonely at times, as its got woods once
>> side and often no one around so I dont think I'd want to loiter

>> alone. My hubby likes walking, he is just a man, and moans its too
>> cold or his legs ache or he's got a headache!!

[J Kimbell]

Have you tried a hair dryer? Or does Billie not like it? You can also use a
Chamois to dry them off, you need to wring it out in water now and then but
it works.
Julia

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[Jennie Harrison]

I use a hair drier on chlo when she is soggy. I started doing it when we were on holiday and I had to share a hotel room with her after she'd been swimming! I am amazed she doesn't mind it, I think she even likes it. usually she is sensitive to things like that and very wary but it is amazing what some treats can do!
she sometimes comes and stands next to me when I am drying my hair wanting a few blasts from the drier
jen x

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[J Kimbell]

Probably likes the warmth, I dry my guinea pigs with a hair dryer, in fact I
have a pet one that is hands free. I dont use one for Wren as Flatties dont
have the thick undercoat and she dries very fast, but I hav e used ojne on
my dogs in the past. I hada Collide who would normally take 24 hours to dry
if I didnt use a dryer.

[Louise Redsull]

Hi |Julia,
I was worried that using a hairdryer might dammage his skin or something
like that so have not tried doing that.

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[Derek Hornby]

Hi Louise
Yes it's ok to use hair dryer with a couple of cautions.
You need to keep the nozzle a few inches away from your dog's fur and
the air flow in constant motion, to prevent heat from concentrating on
any one spot and burning your dog. You do this naturally when
drying your own hair, because you can feel when it's too hot.
But your dog can't warn you when it's getting too hot; he can only cry
out when he's hurting. So be extra careful.

Also, be sure to set your dryer to the lowest possible heat setting
when using it on your dog.

You may want to invest in a dryer meant for dogs rather than using your
own hair dryer. A dog hair dryer don't generate heat, but rather shoot air
at high speed to blast water from the coat, leaving the dog slightly damp
(he'll dry quickly on his own)
Derek

[Jennie Harrison]

I keep my hand inbetween hair drier and dog to make sure things don't get too hot

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[J Kimbell]

Oh, the hairdryer wont do him much harm, just do what you'd do for your own
hair and not have it too close. And not on the hottest setting either. When
I dry my g-pigs I use the medium heat setting and switch it to cold now and
then to stop them over heating, though dogs arent as vulnerable. Just fluff
his coat about as you do the drying so you dry down to the skin. He will be
fine.

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[J Kimbell]

Not a bad idea, I do that with my pigs too.

Julia

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[Dorothy Twyman]

Abby doesn't bring the ball back, she does a few times then that is it, you have to get the ball yourself, she does love plastic bottles

Dot and Abby

> On 10 Apr 2002, at 22:57, "J Kimbell" <whitet...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> I guess its just knowing your dog, isnt it?

> Julia
>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:38 AM

> Subject: Re: In Reply To: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
>
>

> hi Pam
> we are told that here too, however if playing with a ball doesn't seem to alter the dogs work then according to my GDMI it is ok. I am lucky in that if I walk past people playing with balls chloe doesn't turn a hair. I play VI tennis too, and can have chloe on court without her bothering about the balls
> jen x
>

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>

>> On 9 Feb 2014, at 10:27, pam <pamyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> here we r told not to let the dogs play with balls, because if they r working and see kids playing with a ball they could get distracted. this is easier said than done though with 2 kids who have a few footballs and tennis balls in the garden.
>>

>> Sent from my iPhone
>>

>>> On 10 Apr 2002, at 08:45, "J Kimbell" <whitet...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> They are brill, those ball throwers, arent they? You can get shorter ones now which are a lot easier to carry about.
>>>

>>> Julia
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennie Harrison" <the_jenster@hotmail..co.uk>
>>> To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 7:23 PM

>>> Subject: Re: In Reply To: [guidedogchat] Re: free run
>>>
>>>

>>> I free run Chloe alone at a park near me. I have no choice really as she would hardly ever get a run usually. I do prefer running her with a sited person. to keep chloe out of trouble I use a ball and a chucker (plastic stick with cup for holding the ball on the end, it helps it fly further) chloe chases the ball and retrieves it to me. when she is chasing back and forth she doesn't get in any bother like rolling in puddles!! I also have bells on her and her recall is great. I hear what you are saying re the dog attacks and it is a worrying one.
>>> Jen x
>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>

>>>> On 8 Feb 2014, at 17:03, pam <pamyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ya exactly u just never know what could happen if u were on your own.
>>>> pam
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>

[Dorothy Twyman]

Sounds like Abby, the minute the harness is of she just goes mad

Dot and Abby

[Ana Andrade Bacelo]

Hello all,

I try to take my dog for a free run every time I have the oportunity to.
Then I know he'll be more quiet and works better too.
As we also have other dogs at home, if it's not possible to take them into
the park, I throw the ball in our small garden and make them playh togheder.
It's a good thing to do for everyone.

Ana, Jiggy, Faruck and Zarco

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