Re: no means no!  do not pet the Princess!

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Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 8, 2013, 5:10:29 PM6/8/13
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Splitting my sides over this, lol!
 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: no means no!  do not pet the Princess!
 
Oh, really? God help us all! Another hanger-on to pay for. And I can just imagine the sickening goo-gooing in some sections of the press. It's not quite so bad now as when Charles was young, but still, better keep the radio off for about a year.

Vince.





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Message Received: Jun 07 2013, 10:48 PM
From: "J Kimbell"
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Subject: Re: no means no!  do not pet the Princess!

She's due to pop next month apparently. and ooh god the fuss there will be, like no one has ever had a baby before.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Vincent Thacker

To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:40 PM

Subject: Re: no means no!  do not pet the Princess!

 

Jim, how pregnant is Kate by now? I'm sure she'd swim like the Great White Whale.

Anyway I'm a republican, and believe they should all get proper jobs. Republican means something different over here, too.

Vince.





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Message Received: Jun 06 2013, 11:27 PM
From: "J Kimbell"
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But, she isnt a princess!! Not even a royal highness as far as I know.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Armstrong

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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:24 PM

Subject: Re: no means no!  do not pet the Princess!

 

Vince,

 

I have tried very hard to keep up with the royals and what I know now makes me want to visit the UK as soon as I can.



 

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I know, me too.
 
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Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

You are making me laugh as always!! 
 
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
 
As Oscar Wilde said, the only worse thing than being talked about is not being talked about. And here we are talking about guess who.

As Derek disapproves of this list so heartily, and some of us members as well, I can only guess that he's still here as a form of sport, getting on people's nerves. He's gossiping on another list, which is a pretty juvenile approach to what he sees as the problems, but I suspect his medication is wearing off.

Vince.





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Message Received: Jun 08 2013, 01:07 PM
From: "Peter"
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Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

Yeah Julia,
I know the best thing to do is ignore him. There are times he makes me so
irate. However at least one of us as you said have to be an adult about
this.


-----Original Message-----
From: J Kimbell
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 5:28 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

Good lad, at least you are adult about it all. I know its tempting b ut
ignoring is better.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter"
To:
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!


> Mel,
> Of cause you are right.
> The list has been moving along smoothly without my and Derek's petty BS.
> I won't respond to his last post. Hopefully he won't either.

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melanie Akpotu
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>
> Derek and Peter, please it has been very peaceful, please let's not start
> up
> again. And let's not have an argument that so and so started it. Please
> all just move on again!!
>
> Mel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Hornby
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:38 PM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>
> Actually Peter, two list members said:
> "shut up" So no sure why you thought it was only myself.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 1:25 PM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>
> Well Julia,
> This is the first time I've ever seen emotion out of him. Of cause it was
> anger,what else would it be?
> Hey Goddess of the tight jeans. Just think one day he might really smile!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J Kimbell
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:38 AM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>
> Thats good, I dont read them, was just responding to someone elses!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>
>
>> Hey Julia, congratulations. You really must have pissed somebody off. He
>> was
>> a little annoyed with your post. Job well done!!!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Derek Hornby
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:37 PM
>> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>>
>> Oh shut up Julia

>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:27 PM
>> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>>
>> This made me laugh!!!!! He must have said something to make you lose it,
>> Sandra, but good for you!!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sandra Heaton"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>>
>>
>>>O shut up Derek.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandra
>>> Braille Greeting Cards
>>> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Derek Hornby"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:41 PM
>>> Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> But if you thought it was a good idea, why didn't you do it?
>>>> Derek

>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Heaton
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:27 PM
>>>> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
>>>> long!!!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah,
>>>>
>>>> I guess that's a good idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandra
>>>> Braille Greeting Cards
>>>> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

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Derek Hornby

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Jun 8, 2013, 5:18:54 PM6/8/13
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Vince says

"As Derek disapproves of this list so heartily,"

Where is the proof Vince?#


"and some of us members as well,"

Which members Vince, do name them.

"I can only guess that he's still here as a form of sport, getting
on people's nerves. He's gossiping on another list, which is a pretty
juvenile approach"

Really so anyone that talks about someone else, is
Juvenile?

That means everyone then.
Anyway Vince I thought it was agreed on this list,
To stop the a arguments.
But seems you, Peter, and Jim want to start again.

Derek Hornby

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But he didn't email Jim and moan about what was said on another list!


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:01 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

You are probably right. He's hovering around the 60 mark too, years that is,
erm I think!!!


----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!

As Oscar Wilde said, the only worse thing than being talked about is
not being talked about. And here we are talking about guess who.

As Derek disapproves of this list so heartily, and some of us
members as well, I can only guess that he's still here as a form of sport,
getting on people's nerves. He's gossiping on another list, which is a
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Melanie Akpotu

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These posts aren’t half flying through cyberspace tonight, lol, lol, lol!!
From one list to the next ... and back again, hahaha!
From: J Kimbell
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:14 PM

Vincent Thacker

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This Kate could reflect, while she's in hospital with her ingrowing toenail or whatever she's got, that the history of queens called Kate is not a particularly happy one. A few of them made the mistake of bonking Henry the VIII (help, the thought of that great slob!). And it was the worse for them.
Still, she may never get there, with Charles gotta be queen first, if they'll let him, and Wullyum having to survive being such a brave soldier and all.

No wonder we've got such a sense of farce in this country!

Vince.





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From Jared The Cone Dog

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wwell what she had was very serious and it could be life loss to the mother and child .
Derrick you are a total boar and all you have to do to fill your lonely days is to talk bad about everyone on this list just drop of of this list go running to the one that you talk so bad about this list to. Who will miss your sorry ass - no one at all.
you say that you are a social worker or what ever you think you are , well you have no social responsibility as to what you are saying to the people on this list Derrick just grow up for GODs sake and get off this bloody list - good word -
Terrie

,Daily memo;
Handle stress like a dog , if you can not eat it, or play with it , piss on it and walk away! !

On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:44 AM, "Jim Armstrong" <invinc...@comcast.net> wrote:

Wow Derek,
You say the most ingenious things to others.
How long did it take you to return such a profound retort?
You know of course that you waste the time and cyber space others could be using to say something profound?
Why don't you get a life and stop harassing the people on this list and others.

And by the way:
Word is out that you are talking badly on another list about how much wrong doing and sex we chat about on this list.
So, this is your chance to exit this list and find something more productive to do with your time.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:06 AM
Subject: RE: no means no! do not pet the Princess!


| Well Jim what makes you think she is the one and only woman that stayed
| In a hospital Two weeks.
|
|
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Armstrong
| Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 2:28 AM
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|
| Just think you guys.
| She had to spend two weeks in the freaking hospital as if she is the only
| woman on Earth who has ever been plagued by morning sickness.
| Now first let me admit. This has never happened to me, and it very well
| might make me feel extremely ill if I had it, but I should think that over
| the counter medications for nausea would be sufficient to get her back on
| her wimpy little feet.
|
| Oh my! Did I write that?
| The last thing I would want to do is to upset the queen on the fiftieth
| anniversary of herCoronation. But her grand-son may be married to a
| commoner who wishes to be pampered as if she is the queen herself.
|
| OOPS! Did I write that?
|
| Jim
|
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:20 PM
| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|

Derek Hornby

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Well if Vince thinks gossiping on another list, is pretty juvenile,
What of those that do gossiping by email, and then
One person brings to a list.

After all, how did Jim know what I said on a list he is Not on?


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From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melanie Akpotu
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:10 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

You are making me laugh as always!!

From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 9:52 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

As Oscar Wilde said, the only worse thing than being talked about is not
being talked about. And here we are talking about guess who.

As Derek disapproves of this list so heartily, and some of us members as
well, I can only guess that he's still here as a form of sport, getting on
people's nerves. He's gossiping on another list, which is a pretty juvenile
approach to what he sees as the problems, but I suspect his medication is
wearing off.

Vince.







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Message Received: Jun 08 2013, 01:07 PM
From: "Peter"
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!

Yeah Julia,
I know the best thing to do is ignore him. There are times he makes
me so
irate. However at least one of us as you said have to be an adult
about
this.

-----Original Message-----
From: J Kimbell
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 5:28 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!

Good lad, at least you are adult about it all. I know its tempting b
ut
ignoring is better.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter"
To:
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!


> Mel,
> Of cause you are right.
> The list has been moving along smoothly without my and Derek's
petty BS.
> I won't respond to his last post. Hopefully he won't either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melanie Akpotu
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 1:24 PM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>
> Derek and Peter, please it has been very peaceful, please let's
not start
> up
> again. And let's not have an argument that so and so started it.
Please
> all just move on again!!
>
> Mel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Hornby
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:38 PM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>
> Actually Peter, two list members said:
> "shut up" So no sure why you thought it was only myself.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 1:25 PM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>
> Well Julia,
> This is the first time I've ever seen emotion out of him. Of cause
it was
> anger,what else would it be?
> Hey Goddess of the tight jeans. Just think one day he might really
smile!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J Kimbell
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:38 AM
> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>
> Thats good, I dont read them, was just responding to someone
elses!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:40 AM
> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>
>
>> Hey Julia, congratulations. You really must have pissed somebody
off. He
>> was
>> a little annoyed with your post. Job well done!!!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Derek Hornby
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:37 PM
>> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>>
>> Oh shut up Julia
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:27 PM
>> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>>
>> This made me laugh!!!!! He must have said something to make you
lose it,
>> Sandra, but good for you!!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sandra Heaton"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>>
>>
>>>O shut up Derek.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandra
>>> Braille Greeting Cards
>>> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Derek Hornby"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:41 PM
>>> Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super
long!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> But if you thought it was a good idea, why didn't you do it?
>>>> Derek
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandra
Heaton
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:27 PM
>>>> To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super
super
>>>> long!!!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah,
>>>>
>>>> I guess that's a good idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandra
>>>> Braille Greeting Cards
>>>> www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>
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Melanie Akpotu

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Sorry Derek, you've lost me now! I haven't a clue what you are talking
about!!!!!

Derek Hornby

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I agree Terrie.

Non of us can be sure of Kate's medical history.
Derek
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sarah leadbetter

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please grow up, i have looked after 5 year old children when i worked as a nursery nurse that behave better than you, one thing i hate is people that say one thing to you and then says some thing to some one else, i hope you didn't talk about what members of this group to other, if that is correctthat's even low for your standards, sorry every body else, but i vouldn't keep quiet any longer, he makes me mad, it takes a lot to do that to me, Sarah.

Sara Leadbetter Sent from my iPhone

Derek Hornby

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Mel
You must know what I am on about as you responded to Vince.
Did you not see Jim's email.

J Kimbell

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Its seriously hysterical, innit!! Who needs
Eastenders, anyway!!!!! xxxxxxxxx

J Kimbell

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Splitting my sides over this one!!!! But you are it wrong, Wilyum is in the air force, and its wee Harry the brave little soldier, who stamps his feet and throw s a wobbly as they wont let him go and fight!! Well, they did dint they? But then he got wheeled home again.

J Kimbell

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He's not a social worker, never was, as far as I know!!
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J Kimbell

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Sarah, apply to join the new list then. Mel will send you the invite if you
want to.
Julia

----- Original Message -----
From: "sarah leadbetter" <saz.lea...@sky.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!


Melanie Akpotu

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Hell, I agree these people should not be allowed out!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 8:06 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hand signals

Mel,
Oh the sighted impaired. I think it is amazing that some of these people are
aloud out by themselves.
I'm sure I told you all this before. I was in a train station waiting for my
train which is always on track 13. This woman asked me if I needed help. No
mam I said I was just waiting for my train. Well how will you know when your
train arrives. Well Dah, there announcing everything over the loud speakers.
So I told her my dog is watching the monitor. Oh I heard my train being
called. Of cause on track 13. Good boy I said the train is on track
thirteen. Oh my God how did the dog tell you that this woman said. He hit me
thirteen times with his tail.
Yesterday I was crossing this four lane highway. there were these two guys,
I put them in there twenties by the sound of there voice.
This one guy said to me I got the light. Well the cars were still zipping
past me. hahaha real funny wasn't that. I was going to say something but
held my tongue.
When it was time to cross, I turned and said, now you can go.


-----Original Message-----
From: Melanie Akpotu
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:56 AM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hand signals

Hahaha Peter!

!! Once when I was working in London, I was waiting for the bus in Oxford
Street to take me back to Victoria station so I could get the train home. I
heard 2 stupid women talking "... I wonder how she knows which bus to get
on", "perhaps the dog barks the number", ... I was waiting for a number 500,
lol!!!! I mean, why didn't they just ask me?

Having said that though, I was crossing a horrible junction last week on my
way to the hospital. It is traffic lights controlled, but there is no
audible signal or cone to hold and no sequence in particular that a blind
person can pick out, so one is really reliant on someone telling them when
the light is green and it is safe to cross. Sometimes I just go when a lot
of other people do, although this can be foolish, as some idiots cross when
it is not safe, but if I do this, I am certain in my mind that all traffic
has stopped before I set out across the road as it is 4 lanes, but there is
no island in the middle, you have to cross it in one go. So I was say 3
quarters of the way across, having made the decision that it was safe to
cross myself, when this woman came up on Nyle's left shoulder, right close
to him, which he hates, as it causes him to slow right down. In fact,
somehow she pushed him off course, as instead of him landing me on the
tactile marking on the pavement opposite, we found a kerb, so her being on
his left, must have forced us right. Anyway, she came right up on his
shoulder, causing him to slow right down, and then asked "how does your dog
know when the lights are green?", to which I replied "he doesn't", so she
said "oh ... so you just ..." and at this point, he stalled about 2 steps
from the upkerb, because she was in his way, so I am afraid I lost patience
and not rudely but assertively, I just said to her "please don't stop me in
the middle of the road". I mean honestly, what is the sense in that, on a
road like that? I was furious, but all she could say was "oh sorry" and
walked off. I would have explained everything to her if she had approached
me in the appropriate manner. Now she went off bemused because she still
doesn't know, but honestly, the lights were about to change, and I was in
the middle of that road once in the dark when that happened and I tell you
it was terrifying, as there are as I say, no islands.

I met no end of fools that day last week. I think they must have all been
let out on a midweek break!

Mel.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 10:08 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: hand signals

Vivianna,
When I was in college, the new year just began. I could hear these two
women, who were obviously freshmen.
Well my dog always took me to room d208. I could tell him to go there by
giving him directions. I could say nothing and he would still go there.
So I just entered the D wing. I told my then dog Tabitha to take me to room
208. Well of cause she was going to that room no matter what.
I heard the girls say, Wow that dog counts the rooms.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vivianna
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 4:37 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: hand signals

many years ago, while i was walking down the street on my way to the bank, i
heard these two women walking and talking behind me. they were saying;
isn't amazing how that dog knows right where to go. that poor blind lady,
good thing she has that dog to take her right where she wants to go. etc
etc.
so, i just raised up my voice some and said to my dog; well, i'm not sure
where i am.. where's the bank? do you know where the bank is? take me to
the bank.
all the while i was giving her the hand signal to turn left. well, of
course, she turned left into the bank and stopped at the stairs.
i put my foot up on the step and said; well, i guess this is the bank.
the two women behind me said; see. i told you that dog knows just where she
wants to go.
hahaha.

these days i just ignore such things but, back then i did a bit of messing
around.
thought i would share.

Vivianna

Derek Hornby

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Terrie
You seem to have got me mixed up with Jim.

It was Jim that said:

Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 2:28 AM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!

Just think you guys.
She had to spend two weeks in the freaking hospital as if she is the only
woman on Earth who has ever been plagued by morning sickness.
Now first let me admit. This has never happened to me, and it very well
might make me feel extremely ill if I had it, but I should think that over
the counter medications for nausea would be sufficient to get her back on
her wimpy little feet.

Oh my! Did I write that?
The last thing I would want to do is to upset the queen on the fiftieth
anniversary of herCoronation. But her grand-son may be married to a
commoner who wishes to be pampered as if she is the queen herself.

OOPS! Did I write that?

Jim
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And it was Vince that said

Vincent Thacker

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Ah, yes, Wullyum was at RAF Valley, wasn't he? I'm still sure he's a brave little soldier whatever kind of box he goes around in.

Kate, dab a bit of surgical on it, love.

Vince.





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Message Received: Jun 08 2013, 11:02 PM

Vincent Thacker

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Hell, just imagine the headlines. Derek the social worker. The world has quite enough problems already.

Vince.





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Message Received: Jun 08 2013, 11:02 PM

From: "J Kimbell"
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: no means no!  Go away Derek!


He's not a social worker, never was, as far as I know!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "From Jared The Cone Dog"
To:
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: no means no! Go away Derek!


wwell what she had was very serious and it could be life loss to
the mother and child .
Derrick you are a total boar and all you have to do to fill your
lonely days is to talk bad about everyone on this list just drop of
of this list go running to the one that you talk so bad about this
list to. Who will miss your sorry ass - no one at all.
you say that you are a social worker or what ever you think you are ,
well you have no social responsibility as to what you are saying to the
people on this list Derrick just grow up for GODs sake and get off
this bloody list - good word -
Terrie

,Daily memo;
Handle stress like a dog , if you can not eat it, or play with it ,
piss on it and walk away! !

On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:44 AM, "Jim Armstrong"
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
|
| Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:40 PM
|
| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|
|
|
|
| Jim, how pregnant is Kate by now? I'm sure she'd
| swim like the Great White Whale.
|
| Anyway I'm a republican, and believe they should all
| get proper jobs. Republican means something different over here, too.
|
| Vince.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| ========================================
| Message Received: Jun 06 2013, 11:27 PM
| From: "J Kimbell"
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Cc:
| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the
| Princess!
|
|
|
| But, she isnt a princess!! Not even a royal
| highness as far as I know.
|
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
|
| From: Jim Armstrong
|
|

Peter

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Jun 8, 2013, 8:49:41 PM6/8/13
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Derek,
First let me ask you how was your day? I hope you see this email as a
positive step.
You said something about Terrie confusing you with Jim.
I don't know if this was a attempt on your part to try to add levity to your
emails?
However Jim is an extremely brilliant man, with a magnetic personality.
For these reasons alone, I find it highly doubtful that Terrie, or anybody
could have confused you with Jim.
Please don't feel that this email was to degrade you. This is no longer my
purpose.
You do a good enough job degrading yourself. You certainly don't need my
help to achieve this.
Well Derek, I wish you a nice and rewarding Sunday,
your friend,




-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Hornby

Peter

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Jun 8, 2013, 8:57:06 PM6/8/13
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Hey Derek,
How is everything going?
I did read Jim's email. Obviously it was well written, and well thought out.
Derek, Jim talks to many men and women with various degrees of intelligence.
I am certain he composed that email so you could understand it.
Well I have to take JJ out. So enjoy the day.

Peter

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Derek,
I red Vince's email. It was wrong of him to suggest that your meds might be
wearing off.
Vince there could be a number of reasons why Derek is acting like this.
Perhaps he missed a few days, weeks, or even months of not taking his meds.
Then again he could be taking his meds regularly. However the amount of meds
he takes might have to be increased.
Derek, we are all just trying to help you with your problem.
Well friend, have an enjoyable day,

Peter

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Jun 8, 2013, 9:25:59 PM6/8/13
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Derek,
Please, please don't believe I'm trying to stir up even more bad blood
between us. Those days are over.
Derek, I'm only trying to help you.
If I didn't care, I would just say nothing.
If your embarrassed to walk into a mental health agency. Derek, there are
the mentally challenged who do it all the time.
Derek, from one guy to another. Please go for the help you need.
I hope you don't see this letter for anything else that it is. I pray you
see the concern I have for you,
Enjoy the day,

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Hornby
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:18 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

Calli BT

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,hey Julia what list is that? May I have an invite if it is about guide dogs? Please thanks very much Calli

Calli and her Guide dog Q

Peter

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Hey Sara,
All you did was state the obvious.
However Derek isn't good for the blood pressure. Your much to young and
pretty to be drawn into his web.
Unfortunately we can't give him a time-out.
I'll freely admit I was wrong to use such metaphors when I addressed Derek.
I don't use language like that around women. So I do apologize to each lady
on this register.
Perhaps we shouldn’t respond to Derek with such hostility.
If Derek is haunted by demons only he can see. Then none of us should laugh
at his mental illness.
Derek I am not an expert in socially unacceptable behavior. Your specific
form of mental illness can only be conjecture on my part. However I do know
enough to know you do need professional help.
Derek by no means am I trying to degrade you in any way shape or form.
From one man, well to you. If you can receive help, I believe the remainder
of your life could be valuable.
Derek my friend enjoy your day,

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah leadbetter
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:47 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

Derek Hornby

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Looks like Vince is trying to bait for more Arguments.

Derek Hornby

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Calli,
Yes not much guide dogs talk is there.
But remember you can always start a new subject and then hope
People will talk about dogs.

Do you feed Q once a day or t wice a day
What do you fee him?
Derek

Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 9, 2013, 8:14:32 AM6/9/13
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Lol, lol!

Calli BT

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Derek I feed my dog twice a day. I feed him the very famous type of food ukanewba. I hope I spelled it correctish. smiles Calli

Calli and her Guide dog Q

sarah leadbetter

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Hi Julia, yes to Mel semnding me details on how to join the new group, hope you have been enjoying this lovely weather, i have been trying to get every thing ready for my tandum sky dive, posters etc,me and Kiki had a lovely walk today, Kiki had a good run on a local park, iwill send you a email, then you have my email address, thanks for that, Sarahxx

Sara Leadbetter Sent from my iPhone

sarah leadbetter

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:44:31 PM6/9/13
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Hi Peter, perhaps i did state the obvious, but i thought what i said, needed to be said, Sarah.

Sara Leadbetter Sent from my iPhone

Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 9, 2013, 3:26:28 PM6/9/13
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We haven't had good weather at all today, no sign of the sun, just overcast
all day, and pretty chilly!!

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah leadbetter
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 5:28 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Calli I feed Eukanuba Dermatosis FP
And just once a day.
The Dermatosis is because Karrie has a skin problem but she
Has improved a lot since I got her.

Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Calli BT
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 5:18 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Oh its been very hot here.
About 70f

Derek
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From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 9, 2013, 3:49:53 PM6/9/13
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I know, it was meant to have been that here too but the cloud never cleared.
I think it is because we are quite close to the Thames and it happens this
way sometimes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Hornby
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 8:47 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

J Kimbell

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Jun 9, 2013, 3:40:47 PM6/9/13
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Giggles.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 12:08 AM

J Kimbell

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Jun 9, 2013, 3:41:47 PM6/9/13
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Dont I'm already hurtling for the hills, and I cant run fast enough.

J Kimbell

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Its been a bit cloudy here and a little cool, but for me its been great as
I've been outside all day. The sun did come out late afternoon but luckily
was bearable.

From Jared The Cone Dog

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 ok all  of you  across  the pond 
 so do they have  Kate  on bed restt  as  it is her last  month  of her pregnancy  
As  we do not  hear  that much about the whole situation , the last  thing on the news  was  what ever   was the Queens  60th  anniversary, and Kate  looked  really  good .
 ok so what  do you all think of Harry  going to Vegas and  dropping  his  drawers.
I have one more  question  do most of the people if they  could  get  rid  of  the  royals after  this  Queen dies  , to let them all  get  jobs  sell  the  palace  and stand in line like everyone else. 
Terrie 

,Daily memo;
Handle  stress  like  a dog , if you can not  eat it, or play  with it , piss  on it and  walk  away! !

Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 9, 2013, 5:34:09 PM6/9/13
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I thought the episode with Harry was side splittingly funny!!  I’m not a royalist really, but in a way I admire the Queen, because she didn’t ask to be Queen and it must be a royal pain in the butt most of the time, having to go to all these boring functions and having everyone prying into your business morning noon and night.  And when she is gone, I think I will feel quite sad, as we have grown up with her, she’s just always been there throughout our lifetime.  Having said that, I wouldn’t mind if the younger ones had to get their arses into gear, but I suppose Will and Harry kind of do and I don’t dislike them per se.  It’s more the principle of the royal family with which I don’t really agree than the people personally, and I also realise that they do bring a lot of tourism into the land.  In other words, I am not really that bothered either way. 
 
As for Kate:  I haven’t a royal clue!!  I am sure it will be broadcast the world wide, when there are any developments!
You can be certain sure of that!!
 
Mel.
 

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 10, 2013, 10:04:47 AM6/10/13
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Oh no Vince!  I forgot she is pregnant!
Maybe I should go for someone else's wife instead.
 
About you being a Republican...
I thought the only two parties are the Labor Party and the common party. 
You mean I am wrong again?
Someone ought to put me out of my misery before I get any dumber!
 
Jim, who truly needs to study this system better.

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 10, 2013, 10:18:38 AM6/10/13
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Derek,
I never agreed to anything.
Perhaps that particular contract was made between you and another member of this group.
When I make a contract with you, you will know it.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: no means no! Go away Derek!


| Jim
| I thought it was agreed no more baiting for arguments.
|
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Armstrong
| Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 4:44 PM
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Subject: Re: no means no! Go away Derek!
|
| Wow Derek,
| You say the most ingenious things to others.
| How long did it take you to return such a profound retort?
| You know of course that you waste the time and cyber space others could be
| using to say something profound?
| Why don't you get a life and stop harassing the people on this list and
| others.
|
| And by the way:
| Word is out that you are talking badly on another list about how much wrong
| doing and sex we chat about on this list.
| So, this is your chance to exit this list and find something more productive
| to do with your time.
|
| Jim
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
| To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
| Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:06 AM
| Subject: RE: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|
|
|| Well Jim what makes you think she is the one and only woman that stayed
|| In a hospital Two weeks.
||
||
||
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
|| [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Armstrong
|| Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 2:28 AM
|| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
|| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
||
|| Just think you guys.
|| She had to spend two weeks in the freaking hospital as if she is the only
|| woman on Earth who has ever been plagued by morning sickness.
|| Now first let me admit. This has never happened to me, and it very well
|| might make me feel extremely ill if I had it, but I should think that over
|| the counter medications for nausea would be sufficient to get her back on
|| her wimpy little feet.
||
|| Oh my! Did I write that?
|| The last thing I would want to do is to upset the queen on the fiftieth
|| anniversary of herCoronation. But her grand-son may be married to a
|| commoner who wishes to be pampered as if she is the queen herself.
||
|| OOPS! Did I write that?
||
|| Jim
||
||
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
|| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
|| Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:20 PM
|| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
||
|| Oh, really? God help us all! Another hanger-on to pay for. And I can
|| just imagine the sickening goo-gooing in some sections of the press. It's
|| not quite so bad now as when Charles was young, but still, better keep the
|| radio off for about a year.
||
|| Vince.
||
||
||
||
||
||
||
|| ========================================
|| Message Received: Jun 07 2013, 10:48 PM
|| From: "J Kimbell"
|| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
|| Cc:
|| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
||
||
||
|| She's due to pop next month apparently. and ooh god the fuss
|| there will be, like no one has ever had a baby before.
||
||
||
||
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
||
|| From: Vincent Thacker
|| <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
||
|| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
||
|| Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:40 PM
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Jim Armstrong

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Jun 10, 2013, 10:22:51 AM6/10/13
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Jesus Derek!
Are you so pitiful that you keep notes on the messages everyone sends to the list?
Must have a lot of time on your hands.
Would you please send me your home address?
I believe we need to talk in person.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: no means no! Go away Derek!


| Terrie
| You seem to have got me mixed up with Jim.
|
| It was Jim that said:
|
| Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 2:28 AM
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|
| Just think you guys.
| She had to spend two weeks in the freaking hospital as if she is the only
| woman on Earth who has ever been plagued by morning sickness.
| Now first let me admit. This has never happened to me, and it very well
| might make me feel extremely ill if I had it, but I should think that over
| the counter medications for nausea would be sufficient to get her back on
| her wimpy little feet.
|
| Oh my! Did I write that?
| The last thing I would want to do is to upset the queen on the fiftieth
| anniversary of herCoronation. But her grand-son may be married to a
| commoner who wishes to be pampered as if she is the queen herself.
|
| OOPS! Did I write that?
|
| Jim
| -------------------------------------------------------------
|
| And it was Vince that said
|
|
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:20 PM
| Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|
| Oh, really? God help us all! Another hanger-on to pay for. And I can
| just imagine the sickening goo-gooing in some sections of the press. It's
| not quite so bad now as when Charles was young, but still, better keep the
| radio off for about a year.
|
| Vince.
|

Peter

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Jun 10, 2013, 10:57:15 AM6/10/13
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Sara,
Your wisdom far exceeds your age.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah leadbetter
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 1:44 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: good old British competition; for Peter super super long!!!

Hi Peter, perhaps i did state the obvious, but i thought what i said, needed
to be said, Sarah.

Sara Leadbetter Sent from my iPhone

On 9/06/2013, at 9:56, "Peter" <black...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hey Sara,
> All you did was state the obvious.
> However Derek isn't good for the blood pressure. Your much to young and
> pretty to be drawn into his web.
> Unfortunately we can't give him a time-out.
> I'll freely admit I was wrong to use such metaphors when I addressed
> Derek. I don't use language like that around women. So I do apologize to
> each lady on this register.
> Perhaps we shouldn�t respond to Derek with such hostility.

Vincent Thacker

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Jim, we're much more humane here, and would not dream of putting you out of your misery unless you had distemper or something.

Republican isn't a party over here, although maybe it should be. It's more a state of mind, a very intelligent and elevated one, in my humble opinion.

Actually, there are, about ten major parties here that have made some sort of impact, and there will always be some off-the-wall ones appearing at election time as well, e.g., Save the House-Sparrowor Wakefield Gasworks Preservationists. There are Greens and several nationalist parties as well as the regular Labour and Conservative - I like your alternative of Common - they be very surprised at that!

Vince.







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Message Received: Jun 10 2013, 03:04 PM

From: "Jim Armstrong"
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

J Kimbell

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Jun 10, 2013, 10:29:54 AM6/10/13
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Yes, Jim, he does, can dig back years in to thepast to dredge up stuff. He's
done it to most of u,s including me.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Peter

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Jun 10, 2013, 6:45:24 PM6/10/13
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Julia,
I do feel bad for Derek. Now Derek I am not trying to start anything.
I'm just talking to somebody I have great respect for, and feel privileged
to have met; of cause her name is Julia.
Julia perhaps one of Derek's problems is that he doesn't have enough money
to survive, and act human. I have a suggestion on how he could earn some
extra cash.
People can sell there blood. In Derek's case he can be an organ donor while
still alive.
Yeah there is a drawback, he won't be able to survive all these operations.
However when you think about this, there really isn't any problem here.
Derek, I'm searching for a Yahoo group, or groups that the members argue
about everything. If I can find this, I'll send this to you ASAP.
Derek, have an enjoyable day, I'll get back to you,


-----Original Message-----
From: J Kimbell

Derek Hornby

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Jun 10, 2013, 7:56:39 PM6/10/13
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See fooks peter baiting for more arguments.

Jim Armstrong

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Hello Vince,
Thank you very much for giving me an explanation of your party system in the UK.
We of course largely have a two party system which diminishes the platforms on which we have to vote so a broader base has been suggested for years, yet any attempts to broaden the spectrum of ideologies fails every
4 years at voting time.
 
What tickles me is the way the Americans claim to have a very civil manner of debating and negociating while we find your Parlimentary system out of hand and quite uncivil.
I mean, just turn on the telli and listen to the way you yell at one another over there. <Ha!
But by comparison, we speak softly, collect bribes from large businesses and claim to be a superior system of government.  Either way you look at it, its still Bologna with a capital B.
 
Before very much longer, I am going to run for the office of Universal Head Honcho of the world and ask you to run as my Vice.
Not that you have any vices my good man.  It's merely a figure of speech.
 
With all that aside, it seems that all government is opperated on the all mighty currancy and that will never change, nor will it truly accomplish a thing.
It will continue to be the same, the same the same into infinity.
Whatever large corperations want, large corporations will receive.
Jim

From Jared The Cone Dog

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well Derrick how the hell can you speak of what a woman experiences being pregnant, as most men are wimps when it comes to pain , and GOD we would not have children if men had to bear a child .
so get of your soap box and crawl under that rock that you live under .

,Daily memo;
Handle stress like a dog , if you can not eat it, or play with it , piss on it and walk away! !

On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:49 PM, "Peter" <black...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Derek,
First let me ask you how was your day? I hope you see this email as a positive step.
You said something about Terrie confusing you with Jim.
I don't know if this was a attempt on your part to try to add levity to your emails?
However Jim is an extremely brilliant man, with a magnetic personality.
For these reasons alone, I find it highly doubtful that Terrie, or anybody could have confused you with Jim.
Please don't feel that this email was to degrade you. This is no longer my purpose.
You do a good enough job degrading yourself. You certainly don't need my help to achieve this.
Well Derek, I wish you a nice and rewarding Sunday,
your friend,




-----Original Message----- From: Derek Hornby
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:27 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no means no! Go away Derek!

Terrie
You seem to have got me mixed up with Jim.

It was Jim that said:

Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 2:28 AM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!

Just think you guys.
She had to spend two weeks in the freaking hospital as if she is the only
woman on Earth who has ever been plagued by morning sickness.
Now first let me admit. This has never happened to me, and it very well
might make me feel extremely ill if I had it, but I should think that over
the counter medications for nausea would be sufficient to get her back on
her wimpy little feet.

Oh my! Did I write that?
The last thing I would want to do is to upset the queen on the fiftieth
anniversary of herCoronation. But her grand-son may be married to a
commoner who wishes to be pampered as if she is the queen herself.

OOPS! Did I write that?

Jim
-------------------------------------------------------------

And it was Vince that said




----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!

Oh, really? God help us all! Another hanger-on to pay for. And I can
just imagine the sickening goo-gooing in some sections of the press. It's
not quite so bad now as when Charles was young, but still, better keep the
radio off for about a year.

Vince.

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 10, 2013, 8:29:37 PM6/10/13
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Julia,

What a pitiful life he must live.
To think, the only person on our list who admires him is a little 13 year old child who has not even begun to live her life with experiences that will teach her the true value of life.

If he were a real man, he might try harder to associate with we adults and strike a dialogue with adults of his own age.
Oh wait! I forgot. Not many of us have reached his age yet.
Oh what to do with such a spiteful angry man. I truly don't know.

J Kimbell

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Jun 11, 2013, 9:07:01 AM6/11/13
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Oh, he's got money all right.

Peter

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Jun 11, 2013, 11:19:41 AM6/11/13
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Julia, deva of the tight jeans,
Well this doesn't mean he can't still be an organ donor.

J Kimbell

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My thinkings too, Jim. He is beyond my understanding too. I'll tell you
something, Mel is the only other person I've ever told, but Derek came to
stay with me around 30 years ago, and at about the age of 28 or so, had
never had sex!! Well, OK, maybe some men are late like that, but he'd been
on holiday to visit a penfriend in Poland, and he told me she was sex crazy
but: "I couldnt find where to put it" he said!! And he asked would I show
him how it was done!! Fucking hell, the cheek of it and urgh!! I just said
no. I had a boyfriend at that time and I wasnt cheating on him like that.
Mel and I wonder if he's learnt how to do it since!! He's let slip on
another list that he has a partner, but there again says time and time
again he lives alone so presumably this partner doesnt live with him but no
idea if its a him, her or it!! He's a tiny little man, well about five foot
6 or 7, and used to be skinny with it. I like my men tall, so didnt find him
the least bit attractive!! Sick or what? No one uses me like that.

Anyway, I hope you are OK as been worried about you all day. And so has Mel
as I showed her your email that you gave me permission to show her. She said
the same as me its best of ignore him but as you are findinfg out its not
as easy as that, and we know it. Mel has told me to tell you that you will
never get kicked off our own list, so you are safe with us, And just talk to
us, its what we are there for.

Its not long before I go to bed, feel tired but whats new in that, but took
Wren for a free run this morning which she thoroughly enjoyed, she didnt
roll in shit today thankfully, but messed up her meticulously groomed coat
though, how's that for gratitude for my hard work, grins.

Take care and talk to me, as I'm worried.

Lots of love and hugs.
Julia

Derek Hornby

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Looks like Julia is confused with her fairy
Tale and if she goes too far I may have to sue for libel.



-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:02 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek!

Derek Hornby

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Julia is toally deaf and blind but doesn't like to admit it.
Standby some news articles will land on list soon.



-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:02 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek!

Derek Hornby

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Jun 11, 2013, 6:19:35 PM6/11/13
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Julia why did GBA take dog off you some years ago.
Liks the SAS you said on anotherlist last year.

-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Kimbell
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:02 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek!

Vivianna

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Jun 11, 2013, 7:47:19 PM6/11/13
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all i can say is. way to much info. sorry but this kind of personal stuff, i do not need to read. lol.

vivianna

sal pitts

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Jun 11, 2013, 8:14:53 PM6/11/13
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this list is getting madder and madder by the minit lol.

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 11, 2013, 8:56:42 PM6/11/13
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Hi Julia,

This is my first chance to get on the computer today so I'm sorry if I worried you in any way.
One thing in my mind is settled.
Prior to early this morning, I was not aware that Derek and Calli were still only on the list I left behind, so the things he does and says do not matter to me any longer.
Honestly he reminds me of a little gay boy, or a man with a feddish for unusual things in the realm of sexuality so, I decided that all I want is to be rid of him.
Besides, how many adult men would enjoy having a thirteen year old child following them around and idolizing them?
I think there is a problem there.

To that end, I am going to quit the other list, the one we all left behind when you and Mel started this new one.
So that will be the end of all of my problems with Derek.
I'm just sorry it took me so long to realize he was only making his comments on the other list.
Just screw him and the disgusting plant life from which he crawled.

I truly do love you and would not leave this list for the world.
You and Mel are super people.

Love,

Jim Armstrong

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Derek,
What you just wrote here is about as powerful as telling the entire list that the Pope is Catholic and has lived his life on the continent of South America.
You are just astounding! <LOL>
I feel certain your words made Julia run to her closet and cry her eyes out.
Do you not think that all of Julia's friends know that she is blind and also is hard of hearing.

Funny thing that. Hard of hearing is now the politically correct thing to refer to for people who are deaf.
Good thing you don't live in America.
We have correct verbage which must be used when making reference to people with disabilities.
Hmmmm. I wonder how many of those catigories you fall under?

Let me tell you this old man.
When I find somebody who can get to you and physically reach you, you are going to go crying for your Mommy just like the old days.
You are a sour little weakling who has had sand kicked in your face so many times that you have begun living the life of the slime you are.
Some men learn to fight in the court system or to fight with their hands.
You on the other hand would much rather fight women, and play with little girls.
What's wrong choir boy? Still can't get it up?
poor poor little man.
How small you must feel inside.
Oh come on little D.
Don't cry.

Vivianna

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Jun 11, 2013, 9:25:01 PM6/11/13
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well, i was looking forward to being on a constructive list about guide dogs.
this is not the case.
i have much better things to do than read this stuff.
good bye all.

Vivianna

Peter

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Julia,
Perhaps at 28 he should have thought about becoming a priest. Hell even they
were having more sex than he was.
Seriously Derek did you ever figure out where to put it? No seriously, I
think if this wasn't so pitiful, it would be the funniest thing I've ever
heard.
Have you ever thought about a prostitute? Did any of them tell you, that
whatever money you had, just wasn't enough.
Derek, there is nothing wrong with being gay. This is the twenty first
century. Why live a lie? I'm being totally serious about this. My son
Garrett admitted he is gay. I wasn't thrilled hearing this. However he is my
son, and I love him no matter what life style he chooses. This is his life,
and I want him to be happy in whatever he does.
Derek, you don't just wake up one day, and say, Hmm, I think I'll be gay.
You are born either homosexual, or heterosexual.
If you tell all of us you are a fag, believe me nobody is going to hate you
more or less then we do now.
You can come out of the closet. Derek, believe me we all know you don’t like
women.
Oh my God Jim, do you think we can set Derek up with Jason from Blind
Friends?
Derek, I'm certain if you still don't know where to stick it, Jason will be
more than happy to show you.


-----Original Message-----
From: J Kimbell
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:02 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek!

Peter

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Jun 11, 2013, 11:35:40 PM6/11/13
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Derek,
After reading all your posts for many months now. I finally figured out what
I like about you. The answer is nothing.
Am I bating for an argument? No, you can only have an argument with somebody
who shows some intelligence.
Derek, look nobody here likes you, well except for Calli.
You post over and over that we are off topic. Hahaha aren't you a joke. You
write more off topic crap than anybody else.
Derek for the benefit of this register, please just leave.
How can anybody want to remain somewhere where nobody except a child likes
you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Hornby

Peter

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Jim,
Derek needs a visit soon, very soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Hornby
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:10 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Jim
In the UK we do use the term deafblind (all one word)
Look here: www.sense.org.uk
And if you join this list:
dbtechies...@googlegroups.com
You may learn something.
The list is to discuss technical issues for the deafblind.

And I am deafblind myself as are most on that list.

Derek

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 3:00:36 AM6/12/13
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Exactly, as it has nothing to do with guide dogs.

Derek
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From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Hi Vivianna
Jim needs to learn that making violent threats won't
Help at all.

And yes I agree, the list should be for chat about dogs.
Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vivianna

J Kimbell

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Jun 12, 2013, 3:30:02 AM6/12/13
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Agreeing. I'm glad we have our own quiet list, where no one threatens
anyone. From what I'm reading I take it I've been made threats by someone.
I shall be unsubbing too soon. I've got my own list where poelpe dont amke
threats, you are welcome Sal, if you want. I know you dont have a dog, but
you are interested.

Derek Hornby

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I agree yes
What Peter and Jim fail to understand is the more
Angry they get, the more abusive they get, it will not
Drive me off the list, as that is what they want.

All they will achieve is others will leave the list.

Derek
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From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 4:17:50 AM6/12/13
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Well Jim was certainly making
Threats of violence.

J Kimbell

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Jun 12, 2013, 4:29:58 AM6/12/13
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Its either he leaves or I do. I actaully sent that email to the wrong
address so I do apologise ad I was so bloody tired last night. Now he is
sending emails to me off list and I cant handle him any more, so yes he's
wonj as he always does by wearing someone down till they can take no more.
I've had enough,m I wish you joy of him. He'sll be laughing and rubbing his
hands in glee now he's dring me off. I'll unsub later. Happy now, Derek? And
dont you dare contact me off list ever again, as I can get you back too and
have wintesses for doing the same sort ot hing to me by revealing on list
things that shouldnt be on here.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter" <black...@earthlink.net>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
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Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 12, 2013, 4:41:26 AM6/12/13
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Oh dear, everyone is getting in such a tangle. Jim, you are about to leave
the wrong list, it is this one you are wanting to leave, lol, lol!!

Derek Hornby

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Jim says

"Hard of hearing is now the politically correct thing to refer to for
people who are deaf.
Good thing you don't live in America.
We have correct verbage which must be used when making reference to people
with disabilities."


Well I am told on another list:

"Not all Deafblind people are hard of hearing. There are many
Deafblind people who have no usuable hearing at all especially those
who come from a Deaf culture background.

The term Deafblind is probably the most inclusive term available for
Those of us who have both vision and hearing loss."

Derek Hornby

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Julia says


"And dont you dare contact me off list ever again, as I can get you
back too and have wintesses for doing the same sort ot hing to me by
revealing on list things that shouldnt be on here."

That's fine.
As I am not afraid of anything you say as end of day only
Your word against mine.


Both of us only have witness to what was posted.

You standby what you posted, I standby what I posted.

You did once make silly comment abot guide dogs
Saying GDBA like the sas.
Derek

Peter

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Jun 12, 2013, 5:27:50 AM6/12/13
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Over the many months I’ve made many friends on this register.
There was actually a time when I eagerly looked forward to reading everybody’s
post.
Julia, and Melanie, the both of you I feel so privileged to have met.
On a side note, could you please send me that link again for Mel’s list? I
was having so much trouble joining, and well the time has expired.
Julia, Melanie, I have grown to love the both of you, no not in a romantic
way. But in a way that is very special to me, somebody I call friends.
Mel, you always cracked me up with your multi Loll’s. I hope that you and
Julia, and I never lose contact with one another. Somehow I don’t see that
ever becoming a reality.
Vince, if I ever make it to the UK, I’d like to meet you and shake your
hand. You are indeed a man who I’d like to get to know better.
There many others, however I won’t list each of you by name.
Derek, you kept say Pete is baiting me for an argument. Yeah you were damn
right about that. Derek, in all my life I have never met anybody who I have
such revulsion for.
If I came across you laying in the road. I’d walk up to you, spit on you and
keep walking.
When you posted that unwarranted bullshit about Julia, well that was the
last straw.
You are the lowest form of scum known.
You can cry and have Callli come to your rescue, for mentally you’re both on
the same playing field. However I still believe Calli is more advanced than
you are.
Derek, the English language doesn’t have a strong enough word to degrade you
enough.
You’re going to die a pitiless death. The only way others will know that you
are dead, is from the stench coming from your house. When that happens, I
can assure you that there will be a block party in your honor.
Derek, you can recopy anything I say, and then post it. Hey list Pete says.
Derek you are a pitiful explanation for a human. I can’t say man. That is
because you never have been one.
Derek thank you for ending yet another list. May you rot in hell for
eternity!
Jim,
Well I think you all know that Jim and I are good friends.
We met on another register. We disagreed on a subject, and had a debate
about it. We were two men who had different beliefs, and conveyed this to
one another.
Jim I’ll write you more off list.
This is my last word on the subject, and for that matter on this list. I’ll
be unsubscribing once I send this out.
Good-by to everybody, it was my privilege to have met each and every one of
you.
Later,




-----Original Message-----
From: J Kimbell

Melanie Akpotu

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Julia sent it to the wrong address and has apologised!

Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 12, 2013, 5:41:30 AM6/12/13
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Goodbye.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vivianna
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:25 AM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: i am gone.

Melanie Akpotu

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Jun 12, 2013, 5:39:02 AM6/12/13
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Peter, one of my sons is gay too. At least they told us. I don't care as
long as he is happy, but I'd rather know than not know, as so many don't
tell their parents but the rest of the world does know!

Mel.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:30 AM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek!

Julia,
Perhaps at 28 he should have thought about becoming a priest. Hell even they
were having more sex than he was.
Seriously Derek did you ever figure out where to put it? No seriously, I
think if this wasn't so pitiful, it would be the funniest thing I've ever
heard.
Have you ever thought about a prostitute? Did any of them tell you, that
whatever money you had, just wasn't enough.
Derek, there is nothing wrong with being gay. This is the twenty first
century. Why live a lie? I'm being totally serious about this. My son
Garrett admitted he is gay. I wasn't thrilled hearing this. However he is my
son, and I love him no matter what life style he chooses. This is his life,
and I want him to be happy in whatever he does.
Derek, you don't just wake up one day, and say, Hmm, I think I'll be gay.
You are born either homosexual, or heterosexual.
If you tell all of us you are a fag, believe me nobody is going to hate you
more or less then we do now.
You can come out of the closet. Derek, believe me we all know you don�t like

Stephanie Mitchell

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Jun 12, 2013, 7:28:22 AM6/12/13
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Must join that list as i too am deafblind. How much hearing do
you have derek?
Steph


----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:43:42 +0100
Subject: deafblind

Jim
In the UK we do use the term deafblind (all one word)
Look here: www.sense.org.uk
And if you join this list:
dbtechies...@googlegroups.com
You may learn something.
The list is to discuss technical issues for the deafblind.

And I am deafblind myself as are most on that list.

Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:15 AM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek, so wimpy and soft!

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: Derek!


| Julia is toally deaf and blind but doesn't like to admit it.
| Standby some news articles will land on list soon.
|
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Calli BT

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Jun 12, 2013, 7:59:57 AM6/12/13
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Vivianna you can't expect such things to happen when people are in an argument. Just a heads up. Have a great day folks Calli

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Calli BT

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Jun 12, 2013, 8:02:57 AM6/12/13
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I am not saying I like him Peter. It is just that sometimes you guys are a little hard on him. I am not saying I like him. There is a difference. Anyway Calli

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Calli BT

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Derek if you think this list should be about guide dogs as it should be then why start an argument. Just a question. Calli

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Calli BT

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Everyone is making me sad. I love this list so much as many of you guys do. But this list is just not what it is supose to be for. I enjoy all of you but Derek is going down hill. It doesn't mean I won't like him anymore but he is really not going to stop arguing. But I have enjoyed talking to everyone else. Calli

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Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 8:24:18 AM6/12/13
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Calli
Read all the messages.
It seems it's mainly Jim and Peter.
I don't even post as much as they do.

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Calli BT
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:05 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 8:24:18 AM6/12/13
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Wrong address, well that's what she said?

Either way, the story was funny, as many fiction stories are.

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 8:33:17 AM6/12/13
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Hi Steph
I hardly have any hearing. I would say I am 99% deaf.

For communication I use either finger spelling (deafblind manual) or
dbc (deafblind communicator)

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 12, 2013, 6:59:07 AM6/12/13
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Why don't the two of you stop posting juvenile words to each other?
When and how did this hatred between the two of you begin?
Let us all unsub and leave this list as a wasteland for the buzzards!
I will be leaving by unsubbing by late this afternoon.

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 12, 2013, 9:01:43 AM6/12/13
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Hi Derek,

This message is news to me so it begs a question.
If you are indeed deaf blind, why is it that you make such a big deal out of Julia not being able to see, and having a hearing loss?
Consider me out of line if you wish but it does make for a very interesting paradox.
thanks for your answer.

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 9:13:38 AM6/12/13
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Hi Jim
I don't make big deal of anyone having a hearing loss.

However, it's little misleading for anyone to say they are
Hard of hearing, if they are deaf!
Take look at this site:

www.sense.org.uk for information about deafblind.

Jim Armstrong

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Hello Calli,
Please let me tell you what is about to happen to this list.
Because of the fussing and arguing here, most everybody on the list is going to quit today and that will leave nobody left for you to write.
It will mostly be left to you and Derek because neither side will give an inch, and I think that is dreadful.

On a very personal note, let me say that I admire you for trying to ease the tensions between all parties, but I think the time for making peace has come and gone, so most of us, including myself are going to unsubscribe and leave here today.
But in a way, you will still be happy because your friend Derek will be here to interact with.
Let me wish you the best in the days ahead, and thank you for trying to make peace.

Jim Armstrong

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Derek,

How low can you go? The subject line is one of the lowest forms of communicating I have ever witnessed.
In a very short while, this entire list is going to be left to only you and Calli, your little teen age friend.
Does that make you feel big and powerful?
Are you proud of yourself?
No man alive would have done the things you have done, belittling vulnerable people to get a feather in your cap.
Personally, I am disgusted by your behavior and hope you rot in hell for the things you have done.

Ultimately, Calli is the one who will have to pay the price for your actions as I have obtained her home address and will contact her Mother off list.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "J Kimbell" <whitet...@ntlworld.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: Julia Kimbell had her dog taken off her


| Its either he leaves or I do. I actually sent that email to the wrong
| address so I do apologize ad I was so bloody tired last night. Now he is

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 9:36:20 AM6/12/13
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Jim
What do you expect given the sort of email Julia posted
With her claims, about me.

YOu cannot have it b oth ways.
YOU seem to think it's ok for Julia to post whatever,
And I should not.

As for the list, you cannot be sure who will really be left.

I can easily get many more to join.

All it needs is a mention in few braille magazines.

Derek

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 12, 2013, 9:42:51 AM6/12/13
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Yeah, so?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>

Jim Armstrong

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Jun 12, 2013, 9:48:49 AM6/12/13
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Derek,

We have a network of deafblind citizens here in the mountain communities where I live and I have been the one and only person to establish a network of TTY communications for the people of this area.
So I actually know quite a bit about this issue.
You see? I have been the President of the Talking Book Center in this area for the past ten years and know the availabilities of various services which are available to the blind and deafblind quite well.
But thank you for your bit of information.
If I had not known this already, it might have been very helpful.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:43 AM
Subject: deafblind


| Jim
| In the UK we do use the term deafblind (all one word)
| Look here: www.sense.org.uk
| And if you join this list:
| dbtechies...@googlegroups.com
| You may learn something.
| The list is to discuss technical issues for the deafblind.
|
| And I am deafblind myself as are most on that list.
|
| Derek
| -----Original Message-----
| From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| [mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Armstrong
| Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:15 AM
| To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
| Subject: Re: Derek, so wimpy and soft!
|
| Derek,
| What you just wrote here is about as powerful as telling the entire list
| that the Pope is Catholic and has lived his life on the continent of South
| America.
| You are just astounding! <LOL>
| I feel certain your words made Julia run to her closet and cry her eyes out.
| Do you not think that all of Julia's friends know that she is blind and also
| is hard of hearing.
|
| Funny thing that. Hard of hearing is now the politically correct thing to
| refer to for people who are deaf.
| Good thing you don't live in America.
| We have correct verbage which must be used when making reference to people
| with disabilities.
| Hmmmm. I wonder how many of those catigories you fall under?
|
| Let me tell you this old man.
| When I find somebody who can get to you and physically reach you, you are
| going to go crying for your Mommy just like the old days.
| You are a sour little weakling who has had sand kicked in your face so many
| times that you have begun living the life of the slime you are.
| Some men learn to fight in the court system or to fight with their hands.
| You on the other hand would much rather fight women, and play with little
| girls.
| What's wrong choir boy? Still can't get it up?
| poor poor little man.
| How small you must feel inside.
| Oh come on little D.
| Don't cry.
|
| Jim
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
| To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
| Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 6:10 PM
| Subject: RE: Derek!
|
|
|| Julia is toally deaf and blind but doesn't like to admit it.
|| Standby some news articles will land on list soon.
||
||
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: "Jim Armstrong" <invinc...@comcast.net>
|| To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
|| Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:29 AM
|| Subject: Re: Derek!
||
||
|| > Julia,
|| >
|| > What a pitiful life he must live.
|| > To think, the only person on our list who admires him is a little 13
| year
|| > old child who has not even begun to live her life with experiences that
|| > will teach her the true value of life.
|| >
|| > If he were a real man, he might try harder to associate with we adults
| and
||
|| > strike a dialogue with adults of his own age.
|| > Oh wait! I forgot. Not many of us have reached his age yet.
|| > Oh what to do with such a spiteful angry man. I truly don't know.
|| >
|| > Jim
|| >
|| >
|| > ----- Original Message -----
|| > From: "J Kimbell" <whitet...@ntlworld.com>
|| > To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
|| > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:29 AM
|| > Subject: Re: Derek!
|| >
|| >
|| > | Yes, Jim, he does, can dig back years in to thepast to dredge up
| stuff.
|| > He's
|| > | done it to most of u,s including me.
|| > |
|| > |
|| > | ----- Original Message -----
|| > | From: "Jim Armstrong" <invinc...@comcast.net>
|| > | To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
|| > | Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:22 PM
|| > | Subject: Re: Derek!
|| > |
|| > |
|| > | > Jesus Derek!
|| > | > Are you so pitiful that you keep notes on the messages everyone
| sends
|| > to
|| > | > the list?
|| > | > Must have a lot of time on your hands.
|| > | > Would you please send me your home address?
|| > | > I believe we need to talk in person.
|| > | >
|| > | > Jim
|| > | >
|| > | > ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.h...@btopenworld.com>
|| > | > To: <guide-do...@googlegroups.com>
|| > | > | ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > | From: Vincent Thacker <mailto:vi...@gainleics.fsnet.co.uk>
|| > | > | To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
|| > | > | Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:20 PM
|| > | > | Subject: Re: no means no! do not pet the Princess!
|| > | > |
|| > | > | Oh, really? God help us all! Another hanger-on to pay for. And I
| can
|| > | > | just imagine the sickening goo-gooing in some sections of the
| press.
|| > | > It's
|| > | > | not quite so bad now as when Charles was young, but still, better
|| > keep
|| > | > the
|| > | > | radio off for about a year.
|| > | > |
|| > | > | Vince.
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I do have some hearing, I can hear music, I'm not totally deaf.
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Melanie Akpotu

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Sorry Calli!

-----Original Message-----
From: Calli BT
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:11 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Julia Kimbell had her dog taken off her

Everyone is making me sad. I love this list so much as many of you guys do.
But this list is just not what it is supose to be for. I enjoy all of you
but Derek is going down hill. It doesn't mean I won't like him anymore but
he is really not going to stop arguing. But I have enjoyed talking to
everyone else. Calli

Calli and her Guide dog Q

On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:27 AM, "Peter" <black...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Over the many months I�ve made many friends on this register.
> There was actually a time when I eagerly looked forward to reading
> everybody�s post.
> Julia, and Melanie, the both of you I feel so privileged to have met.
> On a side note, could you please send me that link again for Mel�s list? I
> was having so much trouble joining, and well the time has expired.
> Julia, Melanie, I have grown to love the both of you, no not in a romantic
> way. But in a way that is very special to me, somebody I call friends.
> Mel, you always cracked me up with your multi Loll�s. I hope that you and
> Julia, and I never lose contact with one another. Somehow I don�t see that
> ever becoming a reality.
> Vince, if I ever make it to the UK, I�d like to meet you and shake your
> hand. You are indeed a man who I�d like to get to know better.
> There many others, however I won�t list each of you by name.
> Derek, you kept say Pete is baiting me for an argument. Yeah you were damn
> right about that. Derek, in all my life I have never met anybody who I
> have such revulsion for.
> If I came across you laying in the road. I�d walk up to you, spit on you
> and keep walking.
> When you posted that unwarranted bullshit about Julia, well that was the
> last straw.
> You are the lowest form of scum known.
> You can cry and have Callli come to your rescue, for mentally you�re both
> on the same playing field. However I still believe Calli is more advanced
> than you are.
> Derek, the English language doesn�t have a strong enough word to degrade
> you enough.
> You�re going to die a pitiless death. The only way others will know that
> you are dead, is from the stench coming from your house. When that
> happens, I can assure you that there will be a block party in your honor.
> Derek, you can recopy anything I say, and then post it. Hey list Pete
> says.
> Derek you are a pitiful explanation for a human. I can�t say man. That is
> because you never have been one.
> Derek thank you for ending yet another list. May you rot in hell for
> eternity!
> Jim,
> Well I think you all know that Jim and I are good friends.
> We met on another register. We disagreed on a subject, and had a debate
> about it. We were two men who had different beliefs, and conveyed this to
> one another.
> Jim I�ll write you more off list.
> This is my last word on the subject, and for that matter on this list. I�ll

Vincent Thacker

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Jun 12, 2013, 11:30:55 AM6/12/13
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Peter, hope to see you on the new list. It's a bit like this one used to be, plenty of guide dog talk and loosely related things, and nobody bitches.

Vince.







========================================
Message Received: Jun 12 2013, 10:27 AM
From: "Peter"
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Cc:

Derek Hornby

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Jun 12, 2013, 11:55:38 AM6/12/13
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Hi Jim
According to the department of health in UK

A person is regarded as deafblind if their combined sight and hearing
impairment cause difficulties with communication, access to information,
and mobility. This includes people with a progressive sight and
hearing loss.
Often health and social healthcare professionals use the term
dual-sensory impairment as well as deafblindness. This is more often
associated with adults who have acquired sight and hearing loss.

Multi-sensory impairment is generally associated with children who
are born with a sight and hearing loss and a range of other disabilities
that affect their ability to process information and communicate.
Derek-----Original Message-----

Derek
From: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:guide-do...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Armstrong
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:49 PM
To: guide-do...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Derek, about the deafblind
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