RE: [gtfs-changes] Proposal: Simple method for defining flexible boarding along a route
Becker, Jeff
Denver RTD has 22 flexible service areas AKA Call-n-Rides that includes every type of characteristic in the doc except route deviation, plus, perhaps, a few other characteristics: please see http://www.rtd-denver.com/callNRide.shtml. Fifteen of these have scheduled checkpoints that coincide with bus stops or rail stations to facilitate connections to the transit network. I’m going to need some time to see how our data would fit the current proposal and make suggested changes.
Brian – Could you add Jonathan Wade (jonath...@rtd-denver.com) to our group? He is our Service Development Support manager and GTFS guru for both fixed-route and flexible services and will be able to contribute significantly regarding data availability and use.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
A. Jeff Becker | Senior Manager of Service Development | Regional Transportation District | 303-299-2148
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Subject: Re: [gtfs-changes] Proposal: Simple method for defining flexible boarding along a route
I've updated the proposal doc with some ideas for modeling continuous boarding / alighting behavior as discussed in the GTFS Flexibe WG:
I'm wondering if the proposal might need some work around different pickup/dropoff semantics.
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Neil Taylor <tay...@itpworld.net> wrote:
Hi All
Here's a simple proposal for defining whether services along a route operate on a formal stop and schedule basis or a less formal 'flexible' basis when it comes to passenger boarding and alighting': https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UjDV6g94-vJnREUDXr9mLkyCCgj48pin__yC97DSoBs/edit?usp=sharing
It was developed as an output of a small-group discussion at the 'GTFS for the Rest of Us' event convened in Washington DC on Nov 12th, which focused on how minor changes to the GTFS Spec could make it easier for transportation authorities developing GTFS feeds for the purposes of enhancing public transport information / transportation planning. The proposal aims to make GTFS more relevant in cities where a large proportion of road-based transit services are run on a more flexible basis than elsewhere in the world, and often represent the most significant portion of a city's transit ridership mode-share.
We focused on flexible boarding as an issue, since it was clearly common across the contexts discussed at the event on 12/11/13. In preparing the proposal we are mindful of the deeper work being undertaken by the GTFS Flexible Working Group (who I'm pleased to say were represented at the event and in the technical discussion around the spec), and see this as a short-term change to the GTFS spec, which paves the way for a more complex suite of proposals they are currently working on.
Please post any comments or possible reasons why this could not be adopted into this discussion topic, and feel free to edit the Google doc to demonstrate your suggestions. It is worth noting that we were mindful not to break backwards-compatibility of GTFS when defining this proposal, and feel this remains quite important if this change is likely to be adopted quickly (as we hope it will!).
Cheers
Neil
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