Resignation

[Greg Burton]

Since at least two mods have been in the thread since I last emailed, nothing has been done, and I have heard nothing, it is apparent you don't take my complaint seriously enough to back up your writer on a matter of personal integrity.

Under every situation I have worked in media, that is a vote of no confidence. It's a shame, but I really can't write for a property that doesn't have my back.

Accordingly, I am resigning from GSoM. Please remove my name from the masthead and remove my permissions immediately.

Thank you

Greg

[Ron Moskovitz]

I’m sure Nate will chime in here, but I’ll say this, as one of the two mods who was on the thread and didn’t hide/delete posts.

The reason I didn’t is because my first reaction was to tell BOTH of you to chill out (BigKino had complained directly to me via twitter). Since I didn’t think that would be helpful, I decided to wait until I came up with something more productive to do or to let someone else figure it out.

If you want to read that as a vote of no confidence, that’s your choice, but that's not how I intended it.

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[Greg Burton]

I see - that must have been why he was so sure he wouldn't be warned, eh? But there was nada from either you or Dylan on that thread, so - unlike James Harden - he actually gets away with it,

That's the lack of backup I'mm talking about Ron. Frankly, I feel betrayed by both of you, and that's a sad thing.

Greg

[Ron Moskovitz]

We’re all volunteers. 

Unless we’re talking about a clear-cut issue (e.g., major profanity, spam, personal attacks that are at a level far, far above a charge of cherry-picking data) moderating GSOM isn’t the #1 thing on any of our priority lists. 

I might have been more than happy to warn him once I was sure that I understood what the conflict was and what he was doing that was wrong. But that’s the thing: I’m not going to substitute your judgement for mine, and if that feels like a betrayal, then tough. 

But I glanced at it, felt like you were both acting like sub-optimally, and felt like it was inappropriate for me to step in with deletions and warnings unless I was very clear about what the problem was and who was to blame. With my cursory glance, that wasn’t obvious but I also didn’t see any fires that needed to be put out right away, so I figured somebody else would figure it out or I’d deal with it when I had more time, and I had dinner plans. 

I take moderation seriously and try to err on the side of not hiding/warning. Most personal squabbles peter out in a few days with or without any moderator action. 

He reached out to me, but I hadn’t responded to him, either - for the same reason I hadn’t responded to you: I wasn’t confident that I understood the situation.

-Ron

[Greg Burton]

See - the difference is that I regard a charge of cherrypicking as an ad hominum attack on my integrity as much as you would a charge of plagarism that could leak into the rest of your life.

Your mileage may vary - that's just the way it goes.

Greg

[Evan Zamir]

Greg, I can’t speak for the others, but I’ve been accused of cherrypicking probably dozens of times (who knows, maybe much more). That’s not an ad hominem attack. I don’t think you can reasonably expect mods to treat that the same way as, say, someone calling you an asshole on the site.

-evan

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[Evan Zamir]

Now this quote from Dylan is a good example of an ad hominem attack aimed at yours truly. Kudos, Sleepy!

"I hate to pile on, but it does bum me to see a poster who used to be smart, witty, expansive and engaging on a wide range of topics (heck, even off-topic stuff like Veronica Mars and Breaking Bad) seemingly regressed into a taciturn, monomaniacal teenager in constant need of ego stroking. Maybe it’s something akin to Benjamin Button syndrome? On the bright side, when he passes through the surly adolescent phase, perhaps he can be witty and engaging once again, on the topics of Big Bird and Elmo.”

With that I think I’ll follow in the footsteps of Greg, and submit my “resignation” as well. There’s really no point to me being part of this group any longer. Fun while it lasted fellas!

-evan

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[Nate P.]

All,

So a lot has gone down extremely quickly and, unfortunately, at a rather busy period for me. 

I have talked to Greg and Dylan off the list already and will be getting around to Evan next to get his perspective on what happened here. (And Ron, I appreciate your perspective on things as well). It seems to me like revisiting our community guidelines and how they're enforced is in order.

In the meantime, if anyone else has concerns, please feel free to get in touch -- I'm always open to feedback and certainly don't want GSoM to become a stressful experience for anyone.

Thanks.

Nate

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