Multiple applications?

[Heather Turner]

Dear All,

Someone interested in our project (Avinab Neogy) has asked if he can apply to two projects put forward by the R Project.

Our FAQ say that candidates should only apply for one project:
https://github.com/rstats-gsoc/gsoc2025/wiki/R-GSOC-FAQ#would-it-be-beneficial-for-contributors-to-apply-to-more-than-one-project

However, we had at least one person that submitted 2 projects last year. So maybe this is more of a recommendation than a hard rule?

At this stage, we view Avinab as one of the 2 strongest candidates for our project (out of 5 that have had a go at the tests) , so I would hope he could be considered for another project if we don't end up selecting him for ours. The other project he's looking at (ImputeTestbench) is one he did the tests for in 2023 but did not put in a proposal for, so it's not as if he's looking at 2 projects from scratch.

Let me know what you think,

Heather

[Toby Hocking]

Thanks for the question Heather.

Contributors can submit multiple applications, but it is discouraged, to save everybody time (submitters and reviewers).

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[Heather Turner]

Okay, thanks, I’ll pass that on.

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[Brian G. Peterson]

Just as a note, Google says we aren't supposed to discuss applicants by name in public forums.  This counts as a public forum.

To expand on Toby's response, while we discourage it, it isn't disallowed by Google program rules.  Google has limited the number of applications a single aspiring participant can submit to three (it was once unlimited, then 10, so 3 is an improvement).

Google's guidance is to try to figure it out inside the org.  We had one participant last year who was the top choice for two slots.  We gently, and without leading the participant asked something along the lines of "we see that you've applied for two R GSoC projects... of the two, which would you prefer and why?" and used that to help choose which application to accept.  They were very successful in their project, and are returning as a possible mentor this year.  We have also had good luck on average with participants who were rejected one year and returned the following year to try again.

Regards,

Brian

On Thu, 2025-04-03 at 08:34 +0200, Toby Hocking wrote:

Thanks for the question Heather.

Contributors can submit multiple applications, but it is discouraged, to save everybody time (submitters and reviewers).

On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 4:25 PM Heather Turner <hturn...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

Someone interested in our project (REDACTED) has asked if he can apply to two projects put forward by the R Project.

Our FAQ say that candidates should only apply for one project:
https://github.com/rstats-gsoc/gsoc2025/wiki/R-GSOC-FAQ#would-it-be-beneficial-for-contributors-to-apply-to-more-than-one-project

However, we had at least one person that submitted 2 projects last year. So maybe this is more of a recommendation than a hard rule?

At this stage, we view REDACTED as one of the 2 strongest candidates for our project (out of 5 that have had a go at the tests) , so I would hope he could be considered for another project if we don't end up selecting him for ours. The other project he's looking at (ImputeTestbench) is one he did the tests for in 2023 but did not put in a proposal for, so it's not as if he's looking at 2 projects from scratch.

[Dianne Cook]

Hi Toby, Brian, Narayani, Vijay,

Last year we accidentally had two students working on the same project, and it actually worked out really well. This year, we have 6 applications for the ecotourism project. The scope and aims could easily be expanded to accommodate two students. However, there appear to be a lot more applications this year, so this shouldn’t be a priority. It needs to depend on funding for all the projects that have mentors lined up - these should all get funding first.

How do you think it looks this year - should I agree to be mentor for two students on the ecotourism project?

cheers,
Di

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[Toby Hocking]

I'm not sure about the other applications this year, but our policy is to assign priority to one student for each project, and then secondary students per project are assigned lower priority. https://github.com/rstats-gsoc/gsoc2025/wiki/R-GSOC-FAQ#can-there-be-more-than-one-contributor-per-r-package

If you have multiple applications that you would like to mentor, please click "want to mentor" for those in the google web app, and then indicate your first and second choices in a private email to admins (not on the gsoc-r list).

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