GSmartMix comments and ideas
ensonic
during the Boston Gnome Summit I demo'ed GSmartMix to some people. All
instantanously liked it :)
I found one bug - the drop down-menu from the applet gets not fitted to the
screen. e.g. if the applet is far right, part of the context menu is beyond
the screen.
Speaking about the applet. I think it would be better to use the
media-play/stop icons to remove-control the playback. These icons are
stock-icons since gnome-2.6.
Remotecontrol works fine for totem, but unfortunately not for rhythmbox.
Marc-Andre it would be good to have one live.gnome.org page that racks the
open bugs in bugzilla. If I recall right you filed patches against
totem/sound-juicer for the volume-notify.
One of the next things would be to figure out, how we can ask about adding
GSmartMix to the gnome-desktop.
For the long term, people would like GSmartMix to cover other ressources as
well. One example are xvports (as used in gstreamers xvimagesink). ATI
cards usually have just one. They can be handled similar than audiosinks,
except that one does not want images to be mixed.
Thats it!
Stefan
Marc-André Lureau
I found one bug - the drop down-menu from the applet gets not fitted to the
screen. e.g. if the applet is far right, part of the context menu is beyond
the screen.
yep, I will try to find out how to position it better.
There is also a problem with the resizing I just don't know how I should handle this
(eg when removing multiple tracks)
Speaking about the applet. I think it would be better to use the
media-play/stop icons to remove-control the playback. These icons are
stock-icons since gnome-2.6.
heuf, you mean just change s/pause/stop ? because I already use stock_media-play/pause.
Remotecontrol works fine for totem, but unfortunately not for rhythmbox.
Marc-Andre it would be good to have one live.gnome.org page that racks the
open bugs in bugzilla. If I recall right you filed patches against
totem/sound-juicer for the volume-notify.
Right, I will try to recense each problem for sunday.
One of the next things would be to figure out, how we can ask about adding
GSmartMix to the gnome-desktop.
I wonder also.
I think people would like to see something that can work with any source (those using alsa directly and so on). Espacialy esound support could be interesting, I guess.
The other problem I see is that there is also a different solution to the mixing and remote control with pulseaudio: you can control *any* volume with Pulse. I guess adding a state control of the gstreamer sink (pausing the client) is not that difficult : it would need some work on the client/server protocol, that's it probably.
I don't blind myself.
Lastly, everyone will probably not agree with the smart feature has it is for now, I don't like the way it interacts with the user myself. But some feedback would be great on this feature And some people might like to play with it as it is now.
For the long term, people would like GSmartMix to cover other ressources as
well. One example are xvports (as used in gstreamers xvimagesink). ATI
cards usually have just one. They can be handled similar than audiosinks,
except that one does not want images to be mixed.
Yes. I know why now :)
I will start an xv sink asap.
--
Marc-André Lureau, GSmartMix
Stefan Kost
>
> I found one bug - the drop down-menu from the applet gets not
> fitted to the
> screen. e.g. if the applet is far right, part of the context menu
> is beyond
> the screen.
>
>
> yep, I will try to find out how to position it better.
> There is also a problem with the resizing I just don't know how I
> should handle this
> (eg when removing multiple tracks)
>
> Speaking about the applet. I think it would be better to use the
> media-play/stop icons to remove-control the playback. These icons are
> stock-icons since gnome-2.6.
>
>
> heuf, you mean just change s/pause/stop ? because I already use
> stock_media-play/pause.
>
> Remotecontrol works fine for totem, but unfortunately not for
> rhythmbox.
> Marc-Andre it would be good to have one live.gnome.org
> open bugs in bugzilla. If I recall right you filed patches against
> totem/sound-juicer for the volume-notify.
>
>
> Right, I will try to recense each problem for sunday
need to do to
* tell GSmartMix about their Class
* sync volume in the panel with their own volume slider
* get pause/play working
* register them self after startup and not upon first play
* help GSmartMix to track the audiosink (e.g. not destroying the sink
for each song)
> .
>
> One of the next things would be to figure out, how we can ask
> about adding
> GSmartMix to the gnome-desktop.
>
>
> I wonder also.
http://developer.gnome.org/documents/joining-gnome/addingapps.html
need to talk to them about the mixer applet integration
http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets/MAINTAINERS?view=markup
especially Ronald S. Bultje <rbu...@ronald.bitfreak.net
<mailto:rbu...@ronald.bitfreak.net>>
the question is can GSmartMixerApplet detect if GSmartMix is installed
and look like the normal mixer applet if not? Does The Mixer applet need
GSmartMix libraries during build?
> I think people would like to see something that can work with any
> source (those using alsa directly and so on). Espacialy esound support
> could be interesting, I guess.
>
> The other problem I see is that there is also a different solution to
> the mixing and remote control with pulseaudio: you can control *any*
> volume with Pulse. I guess adding a state control of the gstreamer
> sink (pausing the client) is not that difficult : it would need some
> work on the client/server protocol, that's it probably.
> I don't blind myself.
Okay. Then we need to have a TODO file in svn with a list of open issues
and push the discussion with the respective developers.
>
> Lastly, everyone will probably not agree with the smart feature has it
> is for now, I don't like the way it interacts with the user myself.
> But some feedback would be great on this feature And some people might
> like to play with it as it is now.
We're now in the beginning of a new gnoem-devel cycle. If we have some
instructions for application developers, at least they might try it out.
E.g. robtaylor of telepathy was interested to try it with a voip client.
They would also do ubunbtu packages of GSMartMix.
>
> For the long term, people would like GSmartMix to cover other
> ressources as
> well. One example are xvports (as used in gstreamers xvimagesink). ATI
> cards usually have just one. They can be handled similar than
> audiosinks,
> except that one does not want images to be mixed.
>
>
> Yes. I know why now :)
> I will start an xv sink asap.
Lets clean up the other things for now and only keep the xv part in mind
(keep the codebase generic enough to handle it). For the xv part we
don't need a applet because we don't mix and thus have no separate
mixing levels.
Stefan
>
> --
> Marc-André Lureau, GSmartMix
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