Perplexing problem ....

[Slide]

I have a high school alumni website,www.manhialumni.com, with a page
for each alum that signs up. The alum pages are accessed via a link
of the form (I did this a long time ago and have forgotten how it all
happened) ....here is David Harris's page ....

http://www.manhialumni.com/cgi-bin/d_alumni.pl?NAME=David%20Harris&YEAR=1962&MNAME=&MYEAR=

Now, I have a page for myself ....

http://www.manhialumni.com/cgi-bin/d_alumni.pl?NAME=Bill%20Flannery&YEAR=1962&MNAME=&MYEAR=

If I do a google image for Bill Flannery I'll get my picture and page.

But, if I do a google image for David Harris I won't get his page.

I've checked, using a quote ... "Lordy, the list is sooo long!" and
google finds David's page. But if I google -David Harris Man High
Alumni- I get MY page ?????? and David's page doesn't appear ....

I've had a site map for some time, and the link to David's page does
appear in it.

What could possibly be going on? Why is my page easy to google up but
David's next to impossible? Note: David's page has been there more
than a year.

How can I check when Google last crawled my page and what they found ?

[webado]

See the cache of your page after the search:
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:8Ho2AuuZqGQJ:www.manhialumni.com/cgi-bin/d_alumni.pl%3FNAME%3DBill%2520Flannery%26YEAR%3D1962%26MNAME%3D%26MYEAR%3D+David+Harris+Man+High+Alumni&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk

The name David Harris appears there, so your page qualifies to be
returned for that particular search.

Now click on:
Show more results from www.manhialumni.com
and you will also see the particular page you are interested in.

You are not using header tags on your pages - while title tags are
all the same on many pages.

This is how many of the site's pages are returned for the query [David
Harris]:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.manhialumni.com+David+Harris&hl=en&rlz=1T4GZAZ_en___CA351&filter=0

That's after expanding to show omitted results.

When faced with several pages that qualify for the particular search
(i.e. have all the words in the search phrase) then it will return 1
page, as the best and highest ranked page fit for that search with the
rest of them either in the omitted list or needing to expand the
result listing.

So the page is indexed, but it's ranked a little behind your own page
for those terms.

On Dec 27, 10:13 am, Slide <wdflann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a high school alumni website,www.manhialumni.com,  with a page
> for each alum that signs up.  The alum pages are accessed via a link
> of the form (I did this a long time ago and have forgotten how it all
> happened) ....here is David Harris's page ....
>

> http://www.manhialumni.com/cgi-bin/d_alumni.pl?NAME=David%20Harris&YE...

>
> Now, I have a page for myself ....
>

> http://www.manhialumni.com/cgi-bin/d_alumni.pl?NAME=Bill%20Flannery&Y...

[Slide]

Thanks, as I now understand it, google finds several pages on my site
for -david harris man high- and only lists the top ranked one.

And, the problem can be remedied by fixing the header and title
tags .... by putting David Harris in the title and header of his
page. Yes?

I've forgotten, or never knew, what a header tag is but that can be
remedied.

Also, I should no doubt put David Harris in the alt field for his
image.

I should not have to rerun Gsitecrawler as the sitemap is already OK.

Then I need to wait for Google to re-crawl the page. Can I determine
when this happens?

Thanks again.

Slide

On Dec 27, 11:33 am, webado <web...@gmail.com> wrote:
> See the cache of your page after the search:http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:8Ho2AuuZqGQJ:www.manhialumni.com/...

>
> The name David Harris appears there, so your page qualifies to be
> returned for that particular search.
>
> Now click on:
> Show more results fromwww.manhialumni.com
> and you will also see the particular page you are interested in.
>
> You are not  using header tags on your pages - while title tags are
> all the same on many pages.
>
> This is how many of the site's pages are returned for the query [David

> Harris]:http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.manhialumni.com+David+Harris&...

[Christina S]

Yes, pretty much right.

So wrap the text which is now shown at the top of the page in a pair of <h1>
...</h1> tags, this is the page header tag.
You can style the h1 tag any way you want, using css or an inline style
attribute.

You should do that for all pages actually.

Also make sure the main keyword/keyphrase does appear in the page title.

You sitemap need only be regenerated if the you have added or removed pages
(or changed their urls). Also if you are showing a lastmod date it's helpful
to reflect that in the sitemap.

How quickly Google recrawls the page is anybody's guess. it depends on how
often Google crawls your site generally. Maybe once a week, or every 2
weeks, or more or less often.

You can see the crawler requesting the page if you have access to your
server logs.

Otherwise when it has eventually cached a fresh copy of the page you will
know it, from the cache date. Crawling would have been the same day or a day
or two before.

There's no guarantee of course that Google would give prominence to THAT
page for THAT search over other pages that have those same words on them.
But it usually helps when search keywords are in header tags over when they
are simply part of regular text.

Thanks again.

Slide

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[Slide]

Thanks. Now I remember what a header tag is !

Slide

[Christina S]

<h1>..</h1> for the main page header (one per page)
<h2>..</h2> a level 2 subheaders (as many as needed if needed)
<h3>..<h3> level 3 subheaders ....
etc up to
<h6>..</h6>

Slide

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