Error 41782 Demonstration mode active

[Kevin Flynn]

Just wondering if anyone else has received this error and what does it mean? Seems to be effecting my ability to reset the service reminder. Tried to clear it but won't allow me.

Bike is a 2007 r1200r. This is driving me nuts so any suggestion would be appreciated.

[Delph Pitkeathly]

Hi Avonedale-r

 

Is your bike registered to the GS911 ??? as I am sure that to do this function, it needs to be.

Just a thought.

 

Regards

 

Alan

On Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:25:53 AM UTC+1, avondale-r wrote:

[don eilenberger]

Your '07 R12R doesn't have a service reminder. That "feature" wasn't on
the early Roadsters.. If you try to reset it you're told you can't.

Dunno, never saw the other error message you're getting.

On 8/9/2013 11:25 PM, Kevin Flynn wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone else has received this error and what does it mean? Seems to be effecting my ability to reset the service reminder. Tried to clear it but won't allow me.
>
> Bike is a 2007 r1200r. This is driving me nuts so any suggestion would be appreciated.
>

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[Stephan Thiel]

hi Kevin,

pls send us a full Autoscan of your bike, and we'll try and help you
with this one...

Demonstration mode is a mode that the bike can be put into, when it is
typically being used at a show, where you require the bike to have
certain functions available that normally are only available when the
Engine is running...

best,
Stephan

On 2013/08/10 5:25 AM, Kevin Flynn wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone else has received this error and what does it mean? Seems to be effecting my ability to reset the service reminder. Tried to clear it but won't allow me.
>
> Bike is a 2007 r1200r. This is driving me nuts so any suggestion would be appreciated.
>

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[dirk1....@telenet.be]

Hi,

In order to understand more from the data/diagnostics the GS911 provides, is there a description of the different fields and error/faults and their threshold somewhere?
Also if these error thresholds could be indicated in red when exceeded would be usefull.
I’m searching for following info related to a GS1200 2004:

When the GS911 mentions cylinder 1 and 2, does it mean cylinder 1 = right hand side and 2 is LHS?

I see a difference in temperature between cil 1 and 2, where cil 2 is constanly higher 1-1.5°C then cil 1. This difference is also visible in the knocking sensor values, where cil 1 is 1.48v and cil 2 is 1.21v.
This probably means cil 2 is running leaner than cil 1, but is this acceptable or does this indicate a problem somewhere?

Lambda sensors voltage: Both cycle between 80 and 900, which is good, but one does this faster than the other. Do I need to replace the slow one?

ABS speed sensor voltage front is 1.44, rear is 0.5. is this normal?

Pressure in the ABS circuits: What are the error thresholds here? I get between 19.99 and 16.5. Bleedtest was ok.

I was also looking for the option to test the hall sensors for an R1200GS, but unless I overlooked this, there doesn’t seem to be a hall sensor test for the 1200? I work on 1150’s mostly.
Also there doesn’t seem to be a TPS test,allthough the bike has a TPS. is this handled along with the idle actuator calibration?

This bike had a lot of errors in it's fault history, none of them current faults. All faults were reset, no faults after a testdrive.

Thanks & Rgds,

Dirk

[Mole C]

good question, and for use curious peeps, its always the sense check (what are the normal ranges). I've also seen differences in temp and lambada changes but don't know whats right

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n 8/13/2013 6:29 AM, dirk1....@telenet.be wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In order to understand more from the data/diagnostics the GS911 provides, is there a description of the different fields and error/faults and their threshold somewhere?
> Also if these error thresholds could be indicated in red when exceeded would be usefull.

> I�m searching for following info related to a GS1200 2004:

>
> When the GS911 mentions cylinder 1 and 2, does it mean cylinder 1 = right hand side and 2 is LHS?
>

Yes, although I prefer port and starboard (that way it doesn't matter
how you're looking at the bike.) #1 is starboard, #2 is port. Simple
enough to empirically determine this - disconnect one of the O2 sensors
and see which side goes away in the plot (although the cylinder
numbering is shown on the BMW REP-ROM.)
> I see a difference in temperature between cil 1 and 2, where cil 2 is constanly higher 1-1.5�C then cil 1. This difference is also visible in the knocking sensor values, where cil 1 is 1.48v and cil 2 is 1.21v.

> This probably means cil 2 is running leaner than cil 1, but is this acceptable or does this indicate a problem somewhere?
>

You're picking nits here. the differences are not significant, and the
temperature and knock sensors output will move around.

> Lambda sensors voltage: Both cycle between 80 and 900, which is good, but one does this faster than the other. Do I need to replace the slow one?
>

The slow one is going bad. I'll attach a plot of two good sensors.

If one is noticeably slower then the other - it's going bad. I replaced
mine with a universal O2 sensor replacement I found on Amazon for a
small fraction of the cost of BMWs.. but it does require some splicing
of wires. If you're uncomfortable doing that - motorrad electric (google
it) sells a replacement with the connector for about 1/3rd of BMW price.

> ABS speed sensor voltage front is 1.44, rear is 0.5. is this normal?
>

Where are you reading this? The ABS speed sensors should only make
signals when the wheels are turning. If you have no ABS faults - then
it's fine.

> Pressure in the ABS circuits: What are the error thresholds here? I get between 19.99 and 16.5. Bleedtest was ok.
>

Ditto on last comment. You appear to be obsessing with data. I'd suggest
an active test. Go ride the bike, if no faults appear, everything is fine.
> I was also looking for the option to test the hall sensors for an R1200GS, but unless I overlooked this, there doesn�t seem to be a hall sensor test for the 1200? I work on 1150�s mostly.
>
No HES on the 1200 engines.
> Also there doesn�t seem to be a TPS test,allthough the bike has a TPS. is this handled along with the idle actuator calibration?
No - the TPS is a self learning device. If it's disconnected when the
ignition is one (why?) it will learn it's correct range and position the
next time you ride the bike. It isn't critical to the operation of the
bike, but if you want to teach it quickly, turn the ignition on, fully
twist the throttle once - and the BMSK has learned it.

> This bike had a lot of errors in it's fault history, none of them current faults. All faults were reset, no faults after a testdrive.
>

"lot of errors" = low battery condition at some point. You can erase
them and forgeddabout'em.
> Thanks& Rgds,
> Dirk
Don Eilenberger

[dirk1....@telenet.be]

Hi Don,

Thanks a lot for the info.

Nitpicking is what I do for a living :-)) I'm used to analyzing data and often doing this can prevent problems before they occur. But if I don't know the error thresholds I don't know what to refer to to determine faulty equipment. And then all it comes down to is nothing more than nitpicking like you say ;-))

Your conclusion on the lambda was what I feared, I'll check out motorrad electric, thanks for the tip. The bike's running fine though.

The ABS sensor voltage is indicated in the log file in beta 1306 version, even at zero speed. I was wondering if I could interpret this as a sensor condition check.

The bikes faults where probably due to low battery at some time, like you said.

Good to hear the TPS doesn't require any tuning and that there are no HES on a 1200. Less stuff to worry about.
Like I said, I'm used to working on 11XX's, still have to learn a lot on the 1200 boxers and the GS911 turned out to be a good inventment.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions.

Rgds,

Dirk


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n 8/13/2013 6:29 AM, dirk1....@telenet.be wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In order to understand more from the data/diagnostics the GS911 provides, is there a description of the different fields and error/faults and their threshold somewhere?
> Also if these error thresholds could be indicated in red when exceeded would be usefull.

> I’m searching for following info related to a GS1200 2004:

>
> When the GS911 mentions cylinder 1 and 2, does it mean cylinder 1 = right hand side and 2 is LHS?
>
Yes, although I prefer port and starboard (that way it doesn't matter
how you're looking at the bike.) #1 is starboard, #2 is port. Simple
enough to empirically determine this - disconnect one of the O2 sensors
and see which side goes away in the plot (although the cylinder
numbering is shown on the BMW REP-ROM.)

> I see a difference in temperature between cil 1 and 2, where cil 2 is constanly higher 1-1.5°C then cil 1. This difference is also visible in the knocking sensor values, where cil 1 is 1.48v and cil 2 is 1.21v.

> This probably means cil 2 is running leaner than cil 1, but is this acceptable or does this indicate a problem somewhere?
>
You're picking nits here. the differences are not significant, and the
temperature and knock sensors output will move around.
> Lambda sensors voltage: Both cycle between 80 and 900, which is good, but one does this faster than the other. Do I need to replace the slow one?
>
The slow one is going bad. I'll attach a plot of two good sensors.

If one is noticeably slower then the other - it's going bad. I replaced
mine with a universal O2 sensor replacement I found on Amazon for a
small fraction of the cost of BMWs.. but it does require some splicing
of wires. If you're uncomfortable doing that - motorrad electric (google
it) sells a replacement with the connector for about 1/3rd of BMW price.
> ABS speed sensor voltage front is 1.44, rear is 0.5. is this normal?
>
Where are you reading this? The ABS speed sensors should only make
signals when the wheels are turning. If you have no ABS faults - then
it's fine.
> Pressure in the ABS circuits: What are the error thresholds here? I get between 19.99 and 16.5. Bleedtest was ok.
>
Ditto on last comment. You appear to be obsessing with data. I'd suggest
an active test. Go ride the bike, if no faults appear, everything is fine.

> I was also looking for the option to test the hall sensors for an R1200GS, but unless I overlooked this, there doesn’t seem to be a hall sensor test for the 1200? I work on 1150’s mostly.

>
No HES on the 1200 engines.

> Also there doesn’t seem to be a TPS test,allthough the bike has a TPS. is this handled along with the idle actuator calibration?

No - the TPS is a self learning device. If it's disconnected when the
ignition is one (why?) it will learn it's correct range and position the
next time you ride the bike. It isn't critical to the operation of the
bike, but if you want to teach it quickly, turn the ignition on, fully
twist the throttle once - and the BMSK has learned it.
> This bike had a lot of errors in it's fault history, none of them current faults. All faults were reset, no faults after a testdrive.
>
"lot of errors" = low battery condition at some point. You can erase
them and forgeddabout'em.
> Thanks& Rgds,
> Dirk
Don Eilenberger