Making Plugs for v4.1
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mac44mag
Apr 25, 2012, 9:41:16 AM4/25/12
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I love learning new skills......I just wish I wasn't so klutzy while
doing so.
I'm fabricating the plugs for the rotary encoders. I know that this
is the easy part, but even with the extra pins that Bryan included
with my board, I'm managing to ruin just about 2 for every one I
succeed in fastening into a wire. It's not like soldering the coax
plugs and 48-pin cables I used to do 40 years ago. :>)
I've tried soldering them as well as crimping them with a crimper I
use for making servo cables, and neither method seems to work well for
me. Anyone have any hints?
Also, it's obvious that I'll need more of these tips, sockets, pins,
whatever they're called in order to complete the cables I need to
build. What do you call these things, anyway? Does anyone have a
supplier (i.e.: DigiKey?) and a part number that I can use to order
some more.
Again, thank you for your time. I'll let the nurse put me back in my
crib, now. It's almost time for my morning feeding then a nap.
Leonard
doing so.
I'm fabricating the plugs for the rotary encoders. I know that this
is the easy part, but even with the extra pins that Bryan included
with my board, I'm managing to ruin just about 2 for every one I
succeed in fastening into a wire. It's not like soldering the coax
plugs and 48-pin cables I used to do 40 years ago. :>)
I've tried soldering them as well as crimping them with a crimper I
use for making servo cables, and neither method seems to work well for
me. Anyone have any hints?
Also, it's obvious that I'll need more of these tips, sockets, pins,
whatever they're called in order to complete the cables I need to
build. What do you call these things, anyway? Does anyone have a
supplier (i.e.: DigiKey?) and a part number that I can use to order
some more.
Again, thank you for your time. I'll let the nurse put me back in my
crib, now. It's almost time for my morning feeding then a nap.
Leonard
Romolo Manfredini
Apr 25, 2012, 10:24:43 AM4/25/12
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I found on ebay plugs ready very cheap...
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Micro-Mini-JST-2-0-PH-4-Pin-Connector-w-Wire-x-10-Sets-/180852816143?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1baaf90f
The seller is reliable...
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Micro-Mini-JST-2-0-PH-4-Pin-Connector-w-Wire-x-10-Sets-/180852816143?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1baaf90f
The seller is reliable...
Rick Harms
Apr 25, 2012, 11:33:41 AM4/25/12
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Leonard.
1. I know how you feel. I also destroyed a dozen servo pins and gave up. I use the crimper at www.servocity.com
I then tried it on the JST pins and something clicked, now I "be" an expert. The pin part number is on the bom spreadsheet. They are available from Digikey. I purchased 100.
2. I second Romolo's recommendation, I have purchased from the same supplier and was very satisfied. If doing it again, I would buy the cable and if need be snip of the unused end.
Rick Harms
Romolo Manfredini
Apr 25, 2012, 1:55:45 PM4/25/12
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You can used a third cable for haptic and speaker, removing crimped cables from the plastic connector is easy..
(you will still have 7 spare)
(you will still have 7 spare)
mac44mag
Apr 25, 2012, 4:12:48 PM4/25/12
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Rick and Romolo:
Once again, you've come through. Ordered a selection of cables from
EBay a few minutes ago.
Rick: I think I'll also pick up some spare JST pins from DigiKey. I
figure that if I get 100, I'll have enough to complete at least 10
wires. :>)
Thanks!
Leonard
On Apr 25, 11:55 am, Romolo Manfredini <romolo.manfred...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> >> The seller is reliable...
Once again, you've come through. Ordered a selection of cables from
EBay a few minutes ago.
Rick: I think I'll also pick up some spare JST pins from DigiKey. I
figure that if I get 100, I'll have enough to complete at least 10
wires. :>)
Thanks!
Leonard
On Apr 25, 11:55 am, Romolo Manfredini <romolo.manfred...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> You can used a third cable for haptic and speaker, removing crimped cables
> from the plastic connector is easy..
> (you will still have 7 spare)
>
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> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Rick Harms <rickdha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Leonard.
> > 1. I know how you feel. I also destroyed a dozen servo pins and gave up.
> > I use the crimper atwww.servocity.com
> > I then tried it on the JST pins and something clicked, now I "be" an
> > expert. The pin part number is on the bom spreadsheet. They are available
> > from Digikey. I purchased 100.
>
> > 2. I second Romolo's recommendation, I have purchased from the same
> > supplier and was very satisfied. If doing it again, I would buy the cable
> > and if need be snip of the unused end.
>
> > Rick Harms
>
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Romolo Manfredini <
> > romolo.manfred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I found on ebay plugs ready very cheap...
>
> >>http://www.ebay.it/itm/Micro-Mini-JST-2-0-PH-4-Pin-Connector-w-Wire-x...
> from the plastic connector is easy..
> (you will still have 7 spare)
>
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> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Rick Harms <rickdha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Leonard.
> > 1. I know how you feel. I also destroyed a dozen servo pins and gave up.
> > I use the crimper atwww.servocity.com
> > I then tried it on the JST pins and something clicked, now I "be" an
> > expert. The pin part number is on the bom spreadsheet. They are available
> > from Digikey. I purchased 100.
>
> > 2. I second Romolo's recommendation, I have purchased from the same
> > supplier and was very satisfied. If doing it again, I would buy the cable
> > and if need be snip of the unused end.
>
> > Rick Harms
>
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Romolo Manfredini <
> > romolo.manfred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I found on ebay plugs ready very cheap...
>
>
> >> The seller is reliable...
Bryan
Apr 25, 2012, 4:39:19 PM4/25/12
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On 26 April 2012 02:24, Romolo Manfredini <romolo.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
I found on ebay plugs ready very cheap...
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Micro-Mini-JST-2-0-PH-4-Pin-Connector-w-Wire-x-10-Sets-/180852816143?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1baaf90f
Now that is one of the best reasons to open source a project. You find out great stuff like this, for free! THANKS!
I wonder if they do a 3-pin and 8-pin versions? Hope so!
As for doing it manually, what I do is solder and crimp, since neither one on its own seems to work reliably (or suitably in the case of only solder.) Hint; use the smallest practical amount of solder you can get away with, so that you don't get solder wicking up into the wire too much, which ultimately weakens the joint by making the wire brittle.
Not using solder at all but instead getting a good crimp would absolutely be the best method. But the correct size crimper is only available at around USD$700. Yes -- seven hundred dollars. CRAZY. I have purchased two cheaper crimpers that both kind of work OK. But they are in fact for the next size up -- like the servo crimp tool. So whilst they do an OK job of completing a join, neither one creates a solid crimp to the wire, when used without solder as an aid.
Oh -- the practical 'skill' of soldering involves using a small block of wood, with a 2.5mm hole drilled and slightly enlarged. I insert the pin into that as a method of holding it firmly for soldering but not doing any damage. This part at least seems to work very well for me.
Bryan.
Bryan
Apr 25, 2012, 4:49:48 PM4/25/12
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Eureka! Similar store on English eBay site with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8=pin JST 2,0mm PH plugs with wires at good prices!
http://stores.ebay.com/HobbyMart-Shop/2-0-PH-Connector-/_i.html?_fsub=3233409018&_sid=1029096428&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
I'm never manually doing these again! :-D
I will also see about buying in "bulk" and adding to the store site. Any future G9X boards should now be able to be supplied with these, to save the purchaser from having to manually make the plugs. Yay \o/
Bryan.
http://stores.ebay.com/HobbyMart-Shop/2-0-PH-Connector-/_i.html?_fsub=3233409018&_sid=1029096428&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
I'm never manually doing these again! :-D
I will also see about buying in "bulk" and adding to the store site. Any future G9X boards should now be able to be supplied with these, to save the purchaser from having to manually make the plugs. Yay \o/
Bryan.
Romolo Manfredini
Apr 26, 2012, 1:55:41 AM4/26/12
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He is the same seller, and he is really very reliable...
Bryan
Apr 26, 2012, 6:18:31 AM4/26/12
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Yup. Very cool and well spotted! This makes a HUGE difference to the arduous job of handling the connectors. Thanks again. :-D
On 26 April 2012 17:55, Romolo Manfredini <romolo.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
He is the same seller, and he is really very reliable...
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bryan <gru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Eureka! Similar store on English eBay site with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8=pin JST 2,0mm PH plugs with wires at good prices!
http://stores.ebay.com/HobbyMart-Shop/2-0-PH-Connector-/_i.html?_fsub=3233409018&_sid=1029096428&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
...
mac44mag
Apr 26, 2012, 9:15:22 AM4/26/12
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Shipper Update:
Plugs were ordered about 20:30 Hrs. GMT yesterday (April 25), and
notice from Ebay that they had been shipped on April 26 was in my
email box this morning at 13:05 GMT. The time sent on the email was
1258 hrs. GMT today. One certainly can't complain about that!!
Still no estimated arrival time, yet, but with free shipping, that's
not a problem for me. I'm used to paying $18 US to get an order from
Hobby King, so I can wait a bit.
Thanks, Romolo! You just made our (gruvin) lives a lot easier!
Leonard
On Apr 26, 4:18 am, Bryan <gru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yup. Very cool and well spotted! This makes a HUGE difference to the
> arduous job of handling the connectors. Thanks again. :-D
>
> >> ...
Plugs were ordered about 20:30 Hrs. GMT yesterday (April 25), and
notice from Ebay that they had been shipped on April 26 was in my
email box this morning at 13:05 GMT. The time sent on the email was
1258 hrs. GMT today. One certainly can't complain about that!!
Still no estimated arrival time, yet, but with free shipping, that's
not a problem for me. I'm used to paying $18 US to get an order from
Hobby King, so I can wait a bit.
Thanks, Romolo! You just made our (gruvin) lives a lot easier!
Leonard
On Apr 26, 4:18 am, Bryan <gru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yup. Very cool and well spotted! This makes a HUGE difference to the
> arduous job of handling the connectors. Thanks again. :-D
>
> On 26 April 2012 17:55, Romolo Manfredini <romolo.manfred...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > He is the same seller, and he is really very reliable...
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> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bryan <gru...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Eureka! Similar store on English eBay site with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and
> >> 8=pin JST 2,0mm PH plugs with wires at good prices!
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> >>http://stores.ebay.com/HobbyMart-Shop/2-0-PH-Connector-/_i.html?_fsub...
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> > He is the same seller, and he is really very reliable...
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> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bryan <gru...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Eureka! Similar store on English eBay site with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and
> >> 8=pin JST 2,0mm PH plugs with wires at good prices!
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> >> ...
Romolo Manfredini
Apr 26, 2012, 11:06:59 AM4/26/12
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The supplied cable length is 30cm (12'' ) after twisting, more than sufficient for cabling everything in any position.
mac44mag
May 5, 2012, 9:20:13 AM5/5/12
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Plugs arrived yesterday, May 4, via Air Post from Hong Kong. Nine days and free shipping to Colorado, USA. Not bad! Plugs look great.
Leonard
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:06:59 AM UTC-6, R.Manfredini wrote:
Leonard
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:06:59 AM UTC-6, R.Manfredini wrote:
The supplied cable length is 30cm (12'' ) after twisting, more than sufficient for cabling everything in any position.
Romolo Manfredini
May 5, 2012, 9:33:22 AM5/5/12
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Yes that guy is a serious seller, never had an issue with hime
Please remember to twist them before soldering...
I start twisting the middle two...
Then i twist in turn the two lateral ones on the already twisted ones.
Please remember to twist them before soldering...
I start twisting the middle two...
Then i twist in turn the two lateral ones on the already twisted ones.
Bryan
May 6, 2012, 3:39:34 AM5/6/12
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Mine arrived two days ago, too.
I did have to email him to ask what was happening, since I'd heard nothing since making payment some 8 days previous. His response was rapid saying, "They were sent xyz" and the parcel arrived the very next day (after my query.)
They are good quality. No complaints at all.
What's this about twisting? Twisting 'what', exactly?
I did have to email him to ask what was happening, since I'd heard nothing since making payment some 8 days previous. His response was rapid saying, "They were sent xyz" and the parcel arrived the very next day (after my query.)
They are good quality. No complaints at all.
What's this about twisting? Twisting 'what', exactly?
Romolo Manfredini
May 6, 2012, 11:46:23 AM5/6/12
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On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Bryan <gru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Mine arrived two days ago, too.
I did have to email him to ask what was happening, since I'd heard nothing since making payment some 8 days previous. His response was rapid saying, "They were sent xyz" and the parcel arrived the very next day (after my query.)
They are good quality. No complaints at all.
What's this about twisting? Twisting 'what', exactly?
If you solder them first to the encoder and then you try to twist them, it will be rather impossible.
Bryan
May 6, 2012, 8:44:48 PM5/6/12
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On 7 May 2012 03:46, Romolo Manfredini <romolo.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
The cables, I like ordered, twisted cables inside the radio...
If you solder them first to the encoder and then you try to twist them, it will be rather impossible.
Ah. I get you now. (Should have been obvious ... but I had a different context in mind. :P)
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