Channel getting dropped

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Mahadevan Krishnan

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Feb 10, 2021, 7:53:41 PMFeb 10
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We have been using Server Streaming Application written in Java through gRPC maintaining long living connection where we stream data to our clients based on the data collected from sensors. We have been seeing channel getting dropped more frequently, connection getting dropped and we need to make client re-establish connection even though there is no network blip. We wanted to understand if there is maximum size for channel and if there is a way to increase the channel size so that we do not lose the channel and messages that were in the channel needs to be processed. Any help on this is highly appreciated.

Lidi Zheng

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Feb 12, 2021, 1:43:43 PMFeb 12
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Hi Mahadevan,

Thanks for using gRPC!

Based on the description, long living connections getting dropped frequently could be caused by TCP socket timeouts.

You can refer to our document about how to set keepalive pings: https://github.com/grpc/grpc/blob/master/doc/keepalive.md

I'm not sure what the maximum size of channels means. Channels share the underlying TCP sockets when possible. If you mean the maximum number of TCP sockets , gRPC doesn't have such limitations, please check your OS's network settings and the network devices. But as mentioned, I'm more suspect that this could be improved by using keepalive pings.

Bests,
Lidi Zheng


On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 9:55 AM Mahadevan Krishnan <kris...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Lidi,

Sorry to directly reach out to you through email. I saw one of your presentations on youtube for gRPC about flow control. Hence I was thinking, you would be able to help us here on what we could be doing wrong. We are new to gRPC

Regards,
Mahadevan

Lidi Zheng

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Feb 25, 2021, 6:54:59 PMFeb 25
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I'm not sure I fully understand the question "how can the client needs to establish connectivity to these new pods". But this use case seems specific to a cloud provider, and I don't have more context than you do.

Whether to connect to backends or use in-line load balancers, this is more of a business logic decision. If one client needs to connect to all backends to function, then the scalability of the backends will be limited. Based on the information provided, if I were you, I would rethink how the information is organized and consider a possible solution to shard them properly. E.g., using a light-weight in memory database to handle the load.



On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:34 PM Mahadevan Krishnan <kris...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Lidi,

Thanks for taking time to respond. We have been doing Keep Alive Pings every 30 seconds(even if there is no data) to keep the channel live.

I had one more follow up question to check if you have any ideas on it.

Currently the gRPC server is running on Kubernetes POD streaming out the data to Client. Server POD is responsible for reading from AWS Kinesis and pushing this out to our customers for sensor data. Data is sharded based on the Device ID and hence when I start more instances of gRPC Server POD, it helps distribute the load between multiple pods as each pod will read a few shards from AWS Kinesis. But now the question is how can the client needs to establish connectivity to these new pods. Otherwise they will miss out the data retrieved from these shards. 

Clients will need to open connections to these pods individually or can we use load balancers ?  Challenge with load balancer is it has to read data from all underlying servers and not any one of servers at a time.

Regards,
Mahadevan
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