ChrisIt's just as I say - two or three days ago Growl notifications stopped altogether. It might therefore be the more correct to say that nothing is occurring, rather than to tell you what is.
(I suppose that my being a mite miffed by your not having responded to the sampling information that I had sent earlier, at your request, may - along with all the other stresses and strains of life - have helped to encourage me to be a degree more cryptic than was entirely appropriate, but nevertheless, there it is, Growl don't , and it's a mystery to me too.)
As before, I'm more than happy to accept your direction in pursuing the reason…
I have Growl 1.1.2 setup on Leopard (10.5.1 currently and before on
10.5), and GrowlMail has always worked for me (ok I need to write the
defaults thing on the prompt, but that was it). Also Skype works,
OsiriX 3.0fc8 works and all other apps that I'm used to work just fine.
I really don't get why so many people say it does not work. Should I
just count my blessings or something, because it is inexplicable that
it could work? I did an upgrade install of Leopard from Tiger when it
came out. I've seen more trouble coming from fresh Leopard installs
that I never had. Other than that I don't know.
Growl doesn't pull data from applications; applications must push
data to it.
Please try this test app and tell us what happens:
Brian, if you want me to put that app's source code into the Growl
source directory's Examples subdirectory, I can do that later today.
> 1. Growl is running.
Please verify this: after running the test app above, please run this
script in the Script Editor and tell us the results:
application "GrowlHelperApp" is running
(I want to rule out whether the prefpane is lying.)
Please also run this script (*after* the previous script) and tell us
path to application "GrowlHelperApp"
> 2. Applications are configured.
> 3. Applications are set up just as they were when Growl was working.
Are you talking about in their own preferences, or only in Growl's?
The “is running” command was added in Leopard.
> The script returns "true".
What about the “path to” script?
Please open the Growl preference pane, switch to the Displays tab,
take a screenshot, and send it to us.
Instructions for taking a screenshot are here:
These instructions are the same on Mac OS X 10.4 and later, except
that screenshots will be saved as PNG rather than PDF, which is fine.
> 5. Built in 24" display on late-2006 iMac - Growl working on MacBook.
I didn't mean your computer display, I meant your Growl display style,
computer displays would have no relevance. I should have made this
> In general, you seem to have missed the point that everything was
> fine at one moment, but not the next - you have also invented an
> assertion when I actually posed a question.
No, I didn't. I provided a list of steps to follow to isolate the
> It is more than likely that the issue here is entirely specific to
> my situation so, having no expectations of Growl people (who I have
> been happy to praise on more than one occasion) and having
> previously had specifically requested input ignored, I felt it
> entirely reasonable to use a provocative subject header to get
> attention - it worked. Selfishly, I want Growl back - I hope you
> guys have your own reasons for wanting it back too.
We did, thus my comments.
> (On a more personal note Brian, although I absolutely take your
> opening and closing remarks as wholly well meaning they are also
> capable of being taken as patronising - maybe you don't see it now,
> maybe you'll see it later.)
On the forums and mailing lists emotions and frustrations are brought
out unnecessarily. I want this project to be as hassle-free as
possible or it causes others, and myself, to choose to ignore it
because we volunteer our time to code and help users when we can. As I
stated, don't read tone or context or intent - simply the words, which
was basically a list-mom action.
All that said, I'm glad we've found the problem and have a bug that
can be addressed as well (thankfully relatively isolated)
It is known that Mail doesn't work,
nor does Safari.
On Nov 26, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Alexander Henket wrote:
>> It is known that Mail doesn't work,
> It may be known to you, but I just told you Growl and GrowlMail work
> on my machine so mileage apparently varies.
I believe "It is known" refers to the fact that I posted a
compatibility page on the forums which stated GrowlMail is
unsupported, so his assertion was perfectly valid. You may not have
experienced a problem yet, but we [the Growl development team] will
not support any version of GrowlMail on Leopard right now or any
problems it causes (Mail had a swath of changes and GrowlMail was
>> nor does Safari.
> I don't use GrowlSafari, but I just tried it today indeed that was
> the only one that doesn't work so far.
Thus proving the compatibility page right.
You might not be aware of it, but growlnotify is also broken on
Leopard, as listed in that thread. Now we are all up to speed on what
is and isn't supported.
- brian 'bgannin' ganninger