Registering Programs

[John]

I have installed Growl, as well as the plugins available on the growl
page, but cannot get any thing to register in the settings dialog.
What am I doing wrong?

[briandunnington]

can you give me a specific example of one of the plugins that you
installed?

assuming you installed the iTunes plugin, this is what should happen:

1. make sure GFW is running (claw icon in your system tray)
2. make sure you don't have any passwords set up in the Password
Manager on the Security tab (once we verify the application is
working, you can change this later if you want)
3. open iTunes

at this point, iTunes should register with GFW automatically and show
up in the Applications tab of GFW. if it does not, you can verify that
the plugin is installed properly by selecting View > Visualizer from
the menubar in iTunes. you should see an entry for 'Growl
Notifications'. if you dont, then the plugin didnt get installed
properly and we probably need to back up a step. if you do see the
option for 'Growl Notifications', choose it, and then select View >
Visualizer > Options... and a small window should open up. try
clicking the 'Disable notifications' option and then re-clicking the
'Send Notifications' option. this will force iTunes to re-register
with GFW. hopefully that will solve the issue. if it doesnt, or it
turns out the iTunes plugin is not installed properly, let me know and
we can go from there.

[John]

Ok I did as you said and that did work for Itunes, the addin I was
trying to get to register is the Outlook Add-in, I'm running Outlook
2007 and when I go to check the add-ins in trust center Growl Shows as
inactive, I select com add-ins -> Go and select Growl Add-in click ok
then close outlook and reopen and it still shows as inactive.

[briandunnington]

when you click to enable the Growl Add-in, do you get any dialog boxes
or security warnings or any other confirmation that the add-in is or
is not enabled at that point? after you enable it but before you
restart outlook, do you see a menu item called 'Add-in Tasks' next to
the 'Actions' menu item?

if you arent getting any other security dialogs or warnings, can you
also look in the event viewer log to see if there is any more
information available there? i dont have outlook 2007 here to test on,
so i cant say for sure what the issue is.

any other information you can provide would be helpful as well. thanks
for taking the time to report the issue and helping to find the cause.

[John]

>>when you click to enable the Growl Add-in, do you get any dialog boxes
or security warnings or any other confirmation that the add-in is or
is not enabled at that point?

>>>>kind of, when I select it in the COM Add-In Dialog it says Load Behavior:Not Loaded. runtime error occured.....see screenshot.

>>after you enable it but before you restart outlook, do you see a menu item called 'Add-in Tasks' next to
the 'Actions' menu item?

>>>>No, I attached a photo

>>if you arent getting any other security dialogs or warnings, can you
also look in the event viewer log to see if there is any more
information available there? i dont have outlook 2007 here to test on,
so i cant say for sure what the issue is.

>>>>Nothing from Outlook in the event viewer

any other information you can provide would be helpful as well. thanks
for taking the time to report the issue and helping to find the cause.

http://groups.google.com/group/growl-for-windows/web/outlookaddin.png

On a side note, is there a way to change the listening port for
NEtwork notifications from 23053 to 23052 to possibly allow mac/growl
to send notifications to GFW.

[briandunnington]

On Apr 13, 4:25 pm, John <jberg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>kind of, when I select it in the COM Add-In Dialog it says Load Behavior:Not Loaded. runtime error occured.....see screenshot.

thanks - that helps a lot. i think i might know what the issue is, but
i will need a bit of time to do some testing. as soon as i have a
solution, i will post back up with some instructions on how to
proceed.

> On a side note, is there a way to change the listening port for
> NEtwork notifications from 23053 to 23052 to possibly allow mac/growl
> to send notifications to GFW.

simply changing the port wont work. there are a couple of reasons (but
also some good news):

1. Growl on Mac doesnt allow you to specify a computer by name/address
to forward notifications to. it only detects (via Bonjour) machines
that it thinks can receive notifications. GFW now has Bonjour support
built-in, but...

2. Growl on Mac uses Cocoa's Distributed Objects to forward its
notifications, so only other Macs can receive the forwarded
notifications, even if another (Windows) machine were to correctly
advertise itself via Bonjour.

however, i have been working with the Mac developers on a new protocol
that is cross-platform and uses simple text over TCP to send
notifications, so any machine that can do TCP can receive the same
notifications. GFW already supports the new protocol (called GNTP),
but the protocol is not quite 100% finalized yet and is only in the
dev builds of Growl/Mac. i believe they are targeting their 1.2
release for including the new protocol.

[briandunnington]

ok, i have an idea (not positive though) on what it could be. can you
try the steps below:

1. On a computer running Windows XP Professional (or Vista, i assume),
click Start, click Control Panel, click Performance and Maintenance,
and click Administrative Tools. In the Administrative Tools window,
double-click Microsoft .NET Framework Configuration.

2. Click 'Configure Code Access Security Policy'

3. in the left pane, expand the 'Runtime Security Policy' node. Then
expand the 'Users' node. Then expand the 'Code Groups' node. Then
expand the 'All_Code' node.

there should be an entry called 'GrowlExtras.OutlookAddIn' listed
here. if there is not, that is most likely the problem.

if this is the case, please uninstall the add-in (via Add & Remove
Programs) and re-download and re-install it. i just uploaded a new
version in which i changed the way the Code-Access Security Policy is
applied and hopefully it will work properly for you now.

if it does work, please post back so i know it is resolved. if it does
not work, i have a few more ideas we can try.

thanks.

On Apr 13, 4:25 pm, John <jberg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[John]

Your correct that the Growl entry is not in the .net config .... but I
uninstalled, downloaded, reinstalled and it said there was not
JITDebugger, click cancel to cancel debugger request or attach
manually, clicked cancel and install finished. Still no entry in .net
and no change in Outlook.

[briandunnington]

thanks for the additional information.

i think i finally got it sorted out, but i am setting up a Vista/
Office 2007 instance here so i can be 100% sure. once i can verify
that it is working properly here, i will upload a new version and ask
you to re-install one more time.

by the way - are you using Vista, or XP (or 7)? is it 32-bit or 64-
bit?

[John]

XP Pro 32bit is the machine I'm having the problems on. Haven't
installed on my Win7 box

[briandunnington]

i finally figured out the issue. in the installer, my prerequisite
check for the VSTO 2005 SE was not working properly. all of the
machines i tried it on though already had VSTO installed though, so i
never encountered the error. today i built a new machine from scratch
and finally figured it out.

i am just build a new installer and i will post it shortly and it
should fix the issue. alternatively, you could try downloading the
VSTO SE files directly and installing them, but i would like you to
try the new installer to verify that it works that way as well.

[briandunnington]

ok, another updated version has been uploaded:
http://www.growlforwindows.com/gfw/d.ashx?f=plugins/GrowlOutlookAddInSetup.zip

if you could uninstall, redownload, and reinstall one more time, that
would be great. during the install, it will probably prompt you to
install the Visual Studio Tools for Office Runtime (all you should
have to do is agree to the EULA) and then install as normal.

let me know if that finally fixes it. on a clean machine here, that
did the trick for me.

[briandunnington]

can anyone else with Office 2007 (preferably someone who has not
explicitly installed the Visual Studio Tools for Office 2005 SE
Runtime) verify if the latest version of the Growl-Outlook Add-in
works properly for them? i have tested it here successfully, but i
would like some real-world verification. thanks.


On Apr 14, 10:12 pm, briandunnington <briandunning...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> ok, another updated version has been uploaded:http://www.growlforwindows.com/gfw/d.ashx?f=plugins/GrowlOutlookAddIn...

[John]

Latest update fixed it, rock on thanks man.

[david]

I didn't notice the requirement for Office 2003/2007 before I
installed the addin to Outlook 2000. Symptoms are similar to those
described in this thread.

I would expect that Office 2000 (on Windows 2000) not be supported if
there are anything more then minimal differences with recent versions.

If it's useful at all, the new installer didn't add the .NET config
entry as described. As you probably know .NET support on W2K is stuck
in version 2.xxxx. Office Update Service Packs have not been applied.
All have been downloaded. I'll try installing them, but think it
unlikely to eliminate incompatibilities.

Hacking VBA Growl plugin is a possiblity. There are probably better
uses of my time and way to contribute to GFW's greatness ... or is it
Growlness. (Groaning heard in background ... Yeah I really am willing
to stoop that low.)

> > > > > > > > >>after you enable it but before you restartoutlook, do you see a menu item called 'Add-in Tasks' next to

>
> > > > > > > > the 'Actions' menu item?>>>>No, I attached a photo
> > > > > > > > >>if you arent getting any other security dialogs or warnings, can you
>
> > > > > > > > also look in the event viewer log to see if there is any more

> > > > > > > > information available there? i dont haveoutlook2007 here to test on,
> > > > > > > > so i cant say for sure what the issue is.>>>>Nothing fromOutlookin the event viewer

[Brian Dunnington]

i dont think the Outlook Add-in is ever going to work in Office 2000
(or even 2002 for that matter). the add-in architecture is totally
different and there is no good way to make the current add-in work
with the old architecture.

that isnt to say that someone could create an addin that would work
with Outlook 2000, but it would have to be a separate addin.

[industrialphd]

i'm having issues with this. whats strange is mine shows up as active,
the Add-in Tasks shows up and both checks are in for growl
notifications, and I have the default notifications for new mail and
reminders, with both set for true, but i still get the default outlook
notifications.

thoughts? outlook 2007 on an exchange server, vista 32 enterprise
edition.

On Apr 14, 10:12 pm, briandunnington <briandunning...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> ok, another updated version has been uploaded:http://www.growlforwindows.com/gfw/d.ashx?f=plugins/GrowlOutlookAddIn...

>
> if you could uninstall, redownload, and reinstall one more time, that
> would be great. during the install, it will probably prompt you to
> install the Visual Studio Tools for Office Runtime (all you should
> have to do is agree to the EULA) and then install as normal.
>
> let me know if that finally fixes it. on a clean machine here, that
> did the trick for me.
>
> On Apr 14, 9:21 pm, briandunnington <briandunning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i finally figured out the issue. in the installer, my prerequisite
> > check for the VSTO 2005 SE was not working properly. all of the
> > machines i tried it on though already had VSTO installed though, so i
> > never encountered the error. today i built a new machine from scratch
> > and finally figured it out.
>
> > i am just build a new installer and i will post it shortly and it
> > should fix the issue. alternatively, you could try downloading the
> > VSTO SE files directly and installing them, but i would like you to
> > try the new installer to verify that it works that way as well.
>
> > On Apr 14, 8:27 pm, John <jberg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > XP Pro 32bit is the machine I'm having the problems on. Haven't
> > > installed on my Win7 box
>
> > > On Apr 14, 1:56 pm, briandunnington <briandunning...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > thanks for the additional information.
>
> > > > i think i finally got it sorted out, but i am setting up a Vista/

> > > > Office2007instance here so i can be 100% sure. once i can verify

> > > > > > > >>after you enable it but before you restartoutlook, do you see a menu item called 'Add-in Tasks' next to

>
> > > > > > > the 'Actions' menu item?>>>>No, I attached a photo
> > > > > > > >>if you arent getting any other security dialogs or warnings, can you
>
> > > > > > > also look in the event viewer log to see if there is any more

> > > > > > > information available there? i dont haveoutlook2007here to test on,
> > > > > > > so i cant say for sure what the issue is.>>>>Nothing fromOutlookin the event viewer

[Brian Dunnington]

do you still get the default Outlook notifications AND the Growl
notifications? or just the default Outlook notifications? as long as
Growl is running and you have those options checked in the Add-In
Tasks window, it should send Growl notifications.

did Outlook register with Growl when it opened? if not, try closing
Outlook and opening it again (making sure Growl is running before you
start Outlook). it should register if it is not already.

if it is registered and you still arent seeing notifications, you can
enable some logging to see if notifications are even being sent:

1. make sure Growl is not running
2. go to your %LOCALAPPDATA% folder (mine is: C:\Documents and
Settings\brian\Local Settings\Application Data\Growl\2.0.0.0 on XP,
but Vista is a bit different) and look for a file called 'user.config'
3. open the file and find the 'EnableLogging' node - change the value
from False to True
4. save the file and restart Growl

now you can look in the Log folder (in that same location) to see if
anything shows up. if you see activity in there, you can read the log
file to see if maybe there was an error or something. if no files show
up in there (after you should have received a notification) then
either 1) Growl is not running, or 2) it didnt receive any
notifications.

start there and let me know what you find. if you still cant get to
the bottom of it, we can try a few more things.