Lack of Many Moderator Tools

[Sunclad]

I've yet to investigate this fully but I tried the new format for
several weeks but discovered that many moderator tools are missing.

I place all new users on moderated status for 30-days to make sure
they are a real person and not a spam bot. The system works well.
Also having the ability to set a person on moderation gives you time
to ask the person to stay on topic or place them in check if a
personal argument breaks out - a cooling off period.

Under the new format I cannot locate any of these tools and was forced
to revert to the old format in order to get these desirable and
necessary tools back.

Under the new format I was able to add new people or moderate messages
but the tools were only partial.

i also find that I cannot sort a list of members by date, so I cannot
locate recent additions to my subscriber list.

There should be a way to do this. You could under the old format.

If these items are being removed this will be a deal breaker. I moved
my groups from Yahoo many years ago when Google groups was released
and have been very pleased with it, but this new format gets low marks
from me.

It is also painfully slow on older Windows PCs. Forget using IE8, I
had to use Firefox and wait, and wait, and wait.

Just because the new format works on newer high-end laptops or hand-
held devices doesn't mean it is better.

[Sean Murphy]

    Most of the time, when a cosmetic change is made, I can't be bothered to get upset over it. This time, I checked out the new format and I have to agree with your evaluation. I switched back and filled in their feedback form.

[Sunclad]

On Apr 14, 10:34 pm, Sean Murphy <smpara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     Most of the time, when a cosmetic change is made, I can't be bothered
> to get upset over it. This time, I checked out the new format and I have to
> agree with your evaluation. I switched back and filled in their feedback
> form.
>

This all a part of their trying to integrate Groups with Google +. I
think they are trying to make Groups a "circle of friends" kind of
thing, but not all Groups are a social networking atmosphere.
Further, Google + is still limited to individual persons.
Organizations or other business-like groups that have mailing lists
and discussion services are not allowed to participate in "+" and
attempting to access and set up + with a profile name that appears to
their pattern recognition system as a company or organization is
disallowed. So in order for your group to work with "+" you need to
register it as "Bill" or "Fred" and not "My discussion Groups Name" or
"My company's name."

Your ability to take a snapshot of your group's mailing list is also
gone in the new format by the way, so I'd revert to the old format and
get a copy now and take one periodically in the event that feature is
canned. It will be necessary to have if you need to migrate to a new
system elsewhere.

I'm already considering going private and will be ready to go in the
event that they do not resolve the moderator tool problems.

The broader problem to all of this is a lack of a groups support forum
- there is none. The former Google Groups support blog/forum was
closed and archived a couple of years back. None of the present
Google products support forums include Groups.

I have to speculate if this is a sign in the sky to consider.

[Emma DW]

But they've had quite some time to integrate features that worked fine
in the old system.
I've switched back to old & used the 'tell us why' link to tell them,
but you never get any feedback from that (or, more to the point, I've
never had any ...)

Emma

On 1 Aug, 17:57, Guest <walidmuja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>  Yes, I think this is because Google is still moving.  They have not fully
> migrated to the new groups so features from the old groups may not appear.