if we want to use the raspberry pi 4 for IoT and physical computing, we are going to have to use Rasbian Buster, code in Python, and use a web based UI (even if we intend to install a local display on our device.) that will send you down a path that will at least have long term support.
Additionally, we offer 10 years of support with Windows 10 IoT Core Services. You may use the open source BSP for Raspberry Pi, commercial BSPs supported by Intel and Qualcomm, or the recently released open source NXP BSP ( -software/windows-10-iot-core-for-i.mx-applications-proc...), for which NXP offers commercial support as well.
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Awesome! I'm free to port your Windows 10 IoT Core Operating System to the Raspberry Pi 4. I'd just have to figure out the graphics drivers for the gpu, usb, touchscreen, wifi and bluetooth that you all didn't for the 3B+ .
Ok, so let's say that our favorite platform is dead in the water now... what are the alternatives? I'm not "that" attached to Raspberry but having not other option is what's really making me wondering for the foreseeable future.
What kind of hardware/software solutions are you looking to build? The Windows IoT Core SoCs and Custom processor page has a number of suggestions. The Windows IoT Core Processor table shows which versions of Windows IoT Core are supported on which processor family (covering up through release 1809).
Looking at the website, it appears support for new devices halted in 2018 and the product is no longer receiving attention. As a Windows UI is preferred for our delivered gateway deployment, we had been looking to utilize the Core and Azure stack for our large IoT urban project. However, reading this forum there are hints that no resources are allocated for improving Windows 10 IoT Core and it has potentially been orphaned. Yes, we saw your statement about not wanting to "abandon our developer community" which does inspires some hope. Yet, the lack of movement on the Core for 2 years is telling.
If there is updated guidance from Microsoft in favor of a future for this product, we welcome it. Alternatively, if Microsoft has indeed made a business decision to forsake Windows 10 IoT Core, fine. We simply want to make a platform selection where it is evident there is a corporate commitment and on-going support/innovation thus affording flexibility to meet our customer's evolving needs. Certainly, we hope it is understandable that if there is no responsive reply to this inquiry we have no choice but to consider Windows IoT Core as being End-of-Life and act accordingly.
This is the typical deafening roar of silence you receive from Microsoft for any consumer facing product that they are going to abandon. If you were an adapter of the ecosystem and clung on to Zune, Band or Windows phone (I did), then this is another deja vu moment.
Microsoft's only interest in IoT is grabbing data and storing it in their Azure cloud. Windows IoT Core as a client platform is dead. I feel bad for folks (Atlas-Scientific) who have put allot of effort into the platform, only to have their offerings stalled on a 1.2Ghz/1GB solution.
I moved over to Rasbian on my Pi 4 and do my development in Node-RED, enjoying the performance from 4GB of Ram and my 4 cores at 2.0Ghz. Raspberry Pi OS is now available in 64bit and a Raspberry Pi 4 can be bought with upwards of 8GB of Ram. If an upcoming Pi offers an M.2 slot, it will just be the ultimate little platform for IoT apps for me.
Possibly, not enough time has elapsed to allow for discovery, consultation and a considered response to my inquiry. However, I am inclined to believe that you may indeed be right. My surprise is that Microsoft is marketing their IoT stack to many of our very-large clients that need huge numbers of IoT gateways for their rollouts and thus are sensitive to per node pricing. So, Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is out and, from my understanding, there is no other Microsoft gateway platform offering to govern sensor constellations at-the-edge. In contrast, their competitors are moving aggressively to provide integrated cloud services and robust gateway offerings along with device-level OSs for uniformity down to the edge sensors. In terms of Microsoft, unless I missed it or a surprise is forthcoming, crickets! Baffling!
Fully agree with you on the PI 4 as being a great platform for proof-of-concept, though we must use industrial-specification HW for our operational deployments. I, too, am hoping that a revision is released that adds M.2 support as this will finally enable our development teams to share a common mid-tier prototyping platform and development assets.
Raspberry Pi 4 and Pi 3 officially support the IoT Core version of Windows 10, which is not the same as the version of Windows 10 that runs on a desktop but is a stripped-back release for low-power computer board.
In this step, you will also choose the device name, and you have to set a device password. Here, it is good to notice that when you try to login to your device, the username is administrator also now it is possible to set up WiFi connection directly to your SD card so when you boot your device for the first time, it will connect automatically.
Same as before 3 years, Windows 10 IoT is not using full potential from Raspberry Pi 2 or 3. User experience in most of the app is rather bad, even the default app which is pre-installed on image is sometimes laggy on Raspberry Pi 3, on Raspberry Pi 2 it is even worse. But there are still some bright sides, so let's have a look at it.
What was an unpleasant surprise to me was that even after 3 years, Microsoft did not add Graphic Chip support. Raspberry board has that chip on board, and all Linux distributions are fully capable of playing video. But on Windows 10 IoT, you are not able to play any video or display some more complex graphic content because all rendering goes only through CPU and it just cannot handle it. Another thing to mention about the video is that you will get no sound over HDMI. At least in default setting, maybe it is possible to set it somehow to send sound over HDMI, but in the default setting, you get sound only from 3.5 mm jack.
Here's the context to my situation. I'm attempting to setup my rpi zero to use my windows laptop as an NTP server. I have all of the configurations done on both my pi and my windows machine to accomplish this. You can imagine my disappointment and frustration when after everything had been said and done it simply didn't work. I commenced to troubleshooting where after much head scratching and misery I discovered the issue (at least I think I did) the NTP client fails to reach the destination host 10.1.1.1 (my pc) and when I try to ping the pc from the terminal I also get the same error.
Here's the weird part though. I can ping the rpi from my pc and can even ssh into it from my pc. When I attempt to resolve the host from my pc using ping pi.local it returns the ipv6 address of the pi. I can ping both the ipv4 and ipv6 address of pi from pc but can not ping ipv4 or ipv6 of pc from the pi. The pi is using usb0 as network interface with
When I run ifconfig it shows the correct address on usb0 and I can ping it from pc. Why can't I ping the pc from pi? I'm fairly certain that this is the root of my problem with the NTP client communication error that I'm getting but for the life of me I can't figure out why it won't communicate i.e ping the pc from the pi.
"By default, a new Windows 10 installation will have the firewall enabled and set to not respond to ICMP pings, even from hosts on a private network. This can resolved enabling the correct whitelist entries in the firewall."Source
I am using the Raspberry Pi Model 3 B+ and there was recently an update( I did not record what it was doing or what it was called) and upon reboot it mentioned that there was a previous version saved somewhere(did not take note of where this was at). Not thinking much of the update I tried to move windows around and they would not move. I found to try the Alt button and dragging and that is not working.
When I open up a tab for the terminal, or Idle the window drops down in the top left corner below the taskbar. When the internet is opened the window appears the top right corner. When texteditor is opened it is opened with only a little of the top of the window showing in the bottom of the screen.
I am using HDMI connection to a Sony TV, 2.4G Keyboard. Not sure what other information you will need. Along with this update the Raspberry Pi "Berry" in the taskbar has dissappeared and replaced with an imaginary icon. Any suggestions?
I did find a cause in my case: Openbox Configuration Manager (obconf) let me set window colors, decorations, etc., but disabled min/mix/close/sticky buttons and windows cannot be dragged. How I got obconf to show when right-clicking on desktop, I don't know, I was trying to adjust overscan and font sizes.
For our install we chose to use an SSD via a USB3 caddy with USB boot enabled on the Pi. This did not go as expected. The images were successfully written to the drive, and they did indeed boot, but they failed at the device discovery portion of the setup. After discussing the issue with YouTuber leepspvideo, it turned out that our USB 3 caddy was to blame. So we opted to use an Argon M.2 case which has a built in USB 3 to SATA board. This worked the first time, and the added bonus is that our Pi is kept cool.
Before using Windows 11 on the Raspberry Pi 4 with an SSD, we first need to ensure that the firmware and bootloader of our Raspberry Pi 4 is set to the latest version so that we can boot from USB 3. The process to do this is detailed in our How to Boot Raspberry Pi 4 / 400 From a USB SSD or Flash Drive. Please complete those steps before moving on.
There are drawbacks, however. This method takes longer than the manual method (shown below) which involves using a PC to generate the ISO file. Depending on your Internet connection and whether anything fails (which it can, causing you to start again), this method could take an hour or two. The manual (via PC) method below should take less than an hour but has more steps and requires a PC.
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