David Andrew Grigg
Ann Oppenheimer
Hi Marilyn, I finally found the transcription of the letter I found at DAR headquarters in June 2006. I believe this is what you were referring to when you stated you had misplaced our correspondence. I have placed the transcription in red, but your comments are not distinguished, but I think we can figure them out. I have some questions, but will wait until your review.
Happy New Year to all Grigg Descendants.
Ann Carlton Oppenheimer
From: michael szum [m.szu...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:55 PM
To: Ann Oppenheimer
Subject: Re: Jesse Grigg and wife, Nancy Webb
Hi Ann-thanks for thinking of me...I am not sure what to say....I have not seen this particular application I guess though I have gotten a couple....do you have the file number?
Jesse Glenn who supposedly married Nancy Webb and then Martha Elam is said to have been born 1732 but Carol Morrison believed it was more like 1745. She cited the reasons to me and I finally had to agree it sounded logical...My first reaction was that maybe Jesse who married Martha Elam was the son of Jesse Grigg who married Nancy Webb but Carol did not agree. She says her reasoning is based on when he appeared in the records. However she did say she was not sure he was actually the son of Abner Glenn and Mary Ford that it seemed just as possible he was the son of Jesse Grigg and Amy Mitchell. However he seems to have mostly been shown as son of Abner and Mary Ford....
I have a copy of a very similar letter from Wm T Grigg of Rutherford NC showing basically the same data but no proofs...So we need to try to get some proofs I think....
I will insert my comments in blue??
Ann Oppenheimer <oppy...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Marilyn, I wanted to share this research with you. I am not quite sure if everyone already has this or not, so if I am repeating previous research, please forgive. The following was found in a file at the DAR Library/files. I have not been able to see the proofs nor the rest of the original appl. If need be, I can pay a $10.00 fee and send off for the appl.
Below is an abstract of letter from a D.A. Grigg, 23 Jul 19___?* The D. A. stands for “David Andrew”. First, I must make an explanation. The Head Genealogist states in the profile that Jesse GRIGG “s” (she added an “S”) was born in Brunswick Co, VA in 1732 and died in Greensville Co, VA in 1784. The letter states the dates differently and is sometimes the case “a story handed down gets confused on some of the details”. The Jesse Grigg mentioned here gave material aid for the American Revolution cause.
“Jesse Grigg my gr. Gr. Grandfather borned in Ireland about the year 1720 – note: H. Genealogist states 1732-see above.Jesse Grigg who married Amy Mitchell was born closest to that date....Prince George Co., VA
Came to American about 1745; This part matches the info from George W Grigg of Bond Co IL for Jesse his grest grandfather...
Had 5 sons all born in Virginia as follows: William, Wood, Lewis, Frederick and Burwill Grigg seems like a match to me
William settled in Pennsylvania odd but a match
Wood settled in Georgia a match
Lewis, Frederick and Burwill settled in Rutherford NC on Nob Creek near ?________________?* Now in Cleveland Co., NC
Gr Grandfather Burwill Grigg had 10 sons and 4 daughters.
His sons were Banister, Daniel, ?B___Bolen_______?*, Abner, Jesse, Burwell, Edward, Frederick, Richard, and Sam
His daughters were Nancy, Phoeby, Elizabeth, and Jane.match
Abner my grandfather and Banister Grigg lived on Buffalo Creek - now Cleveland Co., NC. Burwell lived in Cleveland Co about 2 ½ miles west of L or T _____________?* and the daughters lived in Cleveland Co.
The other seven sons went to Illinois. Does Burwell who md. Sabra Elam eventually go to Illinois also and the one who dies in 1839 in Bond Co., IL? YES he is talking about Burrell and Sabra Elam Grigg
Abner Grigg my grandfather born 1800 died 1844 @ Salem Church about 2 miles west Foillston (spelling?). Abner had 5 sons: John, Richard, William, Monroe, and Eli.
Abner had daughters Honor, Linda, and Polly A.
Richard, my father born in Rutherford NC now Cleveland Co, NC on Nob Creek 1826 and died 1914. He had 2 sons, John and David, daughters Martha, Mary, Elizabeth
Note Here: Letter in file from Earle W Justice stating Abner Grigg was married to Honour O’Neal on 14 Jul 1819. Burrel Grigg was the bondsman and weddings was in Lincoln Co, NC
Richard’s son, John, born 21 Jul 1848 and died 23 Nov 1876 – never married.
Richard’s son, David born 23 Apr 1851,
Daughters: Martha born 10 Dec 1855 md. Able Hoyle, had one child Sallie Gregg Hoyle – b. 10 Jun 1876. Martha died 12 Feb 1877. Hamrick; Mary, died at age 1 and Elizabeth, died at age 6.
David A. Grigg md Sallie Ellen Alexander & had 5 children.
John Richard 27 Sep 1898; Martha Blanche 17 Nov 1900; Dicy May 9 Apr 1907; Nancy 6 Aug 1909; David Truitt 22 Aug 1919”
a.. Very hard to read
I was not able to see anything on Burwell Grigg of Virginia. I told them I had a copy of my cousin’s application – Charlotte Grigg Watkins and they could not give a satisfactory answer as why there were no files available. I am beginning to believe – they have pulled the files for both Burwell/Burrill Grigg and are re-examining. I will find out more when I return in October.
Let me know your thoughts. Hope you are having a good summer!
Ann, I have the info on the other Burrell and will send it to you....I am most interested in information of the Burrell Grigg of Bond County Ill who came from Rutherford Co NC and before that supposedly from Mecklenburg Co VA. I would be really interested to get this statement you spoke of and see who gave it...and compare it to the one I got from a family member in Rutherford Co NC.....I will gladly send you the $10.00 Marilyn
Ann Carlton Oppenheimer
Researching Adkins, Allen, Allison, Anderson, Benton, Blanks, Blevins, Carlton, Clarke, Crouch, Ezell, Eve, Gillespie, Gonce, Grigg, Gusdorf, House, Jones, Land, Maher, McCrary, Nunnelley, Owen, Oppenheimer, Powell (2 lines), Price, Rogers, Rose, Sanguinetti, Scott, Southerland, Truitt, Wallace, Whitehorn/e, Wiggins, and Wilson (2 lines)
Life is not a problem to be solved but a gift to be enjoyed!
m.szum2006
Hi Marilyn, I finally found the transcription of the letter I found at DAR headquarters in June 2006. I believe this is what you were referring to when you stated you had misplaced our correspondence. I have placed the transcription in red, but your comments are not distinguished, but I think we can figure them out. I have some questions, but will wait until your review.
Happy New Year to all Grigg Descendants.
Ann Carlton Oppenheimer
From: michael szum [m.szu...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:55 PM
To: Ann Oppenheimer
Subject: Re: Jesse Grigg and wife, Nancy Webb
Hi Ann-thanks for thinking of me...I am not sure what to say....I have not seen this particular application I guess though I have gotten a couple....do you have the file number?
Jesse Grigg who supposedly married Nancy Webb and then Martha Elam is said to have been born 1732 but Carol Morrison believed it was more like 1745. She cited the reasons to me and I finally had to agree it sounded logical...My first reaction was that maybe Jesse who married Martha Elam was the son of Jesse Grigg who married Nancy Webb but Carol did not agree. She says her reasoning is based on when he appeared in the records. However she did say she was not sure he was actually the son of Abner Glenn and Mary Ford that it seemed just as possible he was the son of Jesse Grigg and Amy Mitchell. However he seems to have mostly been shown as son of Abner and Mary Ford....
I have a copy of a very similar letter from Wm T Grigg of Rutherford NC showing basically the same data but no proofs...So we need to try to get some proofs I think....
I will insert my comments in blue??
Ann Oppenheimer <oppy...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Marilyn, I wanted to share this research with you. I am not quite sure if everyone already has this or not, so if I am repeating previous research, please forgive. The following was found in a file at the DAR Library/files. I have not been able to see the proofs nor the rest of the original appl. If need be, I can pay a $10.00 fee and send off for the appl.
Below is an abstract of letter from a D.A. Grigg, 23 Jul 19___?* The D. A. stands for “David Andrew”. First, I must make an explanation. The Head Genealogist states in the profile that Jesse GRIGG “s” (she added an “S”) was born in Brunswick Co, VA in 1732 and died in Greensville Co, VA in 1784. The letter states the dates differently and is sometimes the case “a story handed down gets confused on some of the details”. The Jesse Grigg mentioned here gave material aid for the American Revolution cause.
“Jesse Grigg my gr. Gr. Grandfather borned in Ireland about the year 1720 – note: H. Genealogist states 1732-see above.Jesse Grigg who married Amy Mitchell was born closest to that date....Prince George Co., VA
Came to American about 1745; This part matches the info from George W Grigg of Bond Co IL for Jesse his grest grandfather...
Had 5 sons all born in Virginia as follows: William, Wood, Lewis, Frederick and Burwill Grigg seems like a match to me
William settled in Pennsylvania odd but a match
Wood settled in Georgia a match
Lewis, Frederick and Burwill settled in Rutherford NC on Nob Creek near ?_____Lawndale___________?* Now in Cleveland Co., NC
gbc...@bellsouth.net
Venita Walker sent me copies of her info she used for DAR through Joel Elam, because my husband is a descendant of Jesse Grigg and Martha Elam through son Joel Grigg.
I thought that Jesse Grigg had married a Nancy (even though it was not sure it was Webb or not), before he married Martha Elam, has this changed? I get so confused with this line... While I am asking about this line, might I ask if there is proof that Jesse Grigg is the son of Abner Grigg and Mary Ford?
Becky
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"Jesse Grigg my gr. Gr. Grandfather borned in Ireland about the year 1720 - note: H. Genealogist states 1732-see above.Jesse Grigg who married Amy Mitchell was born closest to that date....Prince George Co., VA
Came to American about 1745; This part matches the info from George W Grigg of Bond Co IL for Jesse his grest grandfather...
Had 5 sons all born in Virginia as follows: William, Wood, Lewis, Frederick and Burwill Grigg seems like a match to me
William settled in Pennsylvania odd but a match
Wood settled in Georgia a match
Lewis, Frederick and Burwill settled in Rutherford NC on Nob Creek near ?_____Lawndale___________?* Now in Cleveland Co., NC
Gr Grandfather Burwill Grigg had 10 sons and 4 daughters.
His sons were Banister, Daniel, ?B___Bolen_______?*, Abner, Jesse, Burwell, Edward, Frederick, Richard, and Sam
His daughters were Nancy, Phoeby, Elizabeth, and Jane.match
Abner my grandfather and Banister Grigg lived on Buffalo Creek - now Cleveland Co., NC. Burwell lived in Cleveland Co about 2 1/2 miles west of L or T _____________?* and the daughters lived in Cleveland Co.
The other seven sons went to Illinois. Does Burwell who md. Sabra Elam eventually go to Illinois also and the one who dies in 1839 in Bond Co., IL? YES he is talking about Burrell and Sabra Elam Grigg
Abner Grigg my grandfather born 1800 died 1844 @ Salem Church about 2 miles west Foillston (spelling?). Abner had 5 sons: John, Richard, William, Monroe, and Eli.
Abner had daughters Honor, Linda, and Polly A.
Richard, my father born in Rutherford NC now Cleveland Co, NC on Nob Creek 1826 and died 1914. He had 2 sons, John and David, daughters Martha, Mary, Elizabeth
Note Here: Letter in file from Earle W Justice stating Abner Grigg was married to Honour O'Neal on 14 Jul 1819. Burrel Grigg was the bondsman and weddings was in Lincoln Co, NC
Richard's son, John, born 21 Jul 1848 and died 23 Nov 1876 - never married.
Richard's son, David born 23 Apr 1851,
Daughters: Martha born 10 Dec 1855 md. Able Hoyle, had one child Sallie Gregg Hoyle - b. 10 Jun 1876. Martha died 12 Feb 1877. Hamrick; Mary, died at age 1 and Elizabeth, died at age 6.
David A. Grigg md Sallie Ellen Alexander & had 5 children.
John Richard 27 Sep 1898; Martha Blanche 17 Nov 1900; Dicy May 9 Apr 1907; Nancy 6 Aug 1909; David Truitt 22 Aug 1919"
a.. Very hard to read
I was not able to see anything on Burwell Grigg of Virginia. I told them I had a copy of my cousin's application - Charlotte Grigg Watkins and they could not give a satisfactory answer as why there were no files available. I am beginning to believe - they have pulled the files for both Burwell/Burrill Grigg and are re-examining. I will find out more when I return in October.