Alt form of Torculus Resupinus

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Rob Leduc

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Feb 13, 2022, 10:16:19 AMFeb 13
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Hi,

I'm trying to get an alternate form of the Torculus Resupinus using macros, the way I was shown by Fr. Samuel a little while back.  In this case, I guess I'm trying to get a TorculusResupinusThreeOneOneDiminutis, if I understand the Gregorio Tex terms correctly.

I'd like this to occur at "et" after the bar (:) in the attached mwe.

If I use the macro code at the level [nm1], nothing seems to happen. I get the ordinary form of the Torculus Resupinus, not the alternate, as if my macros weren't there.

If I use the [gm1] level, then I get a terrible line break and space, but the proper note cluster appears. 

Is there some way I can get the right combination of no space error and the note cluster I'm looking for?  I expect there must be and I'm doing something wrong. 

Here is the mwe:

mwe.tex
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% !TEX TS-program = lualatex
% !TEX encoding = UTF-8
\documentclass{book}
\usepackage[autocompile]{gregoriotex}
\begin{document}

At "et"  - using [gm1] gives the cluster I'm looking for, but an error:
\gregorioscore{sample1}
\bigskip\bigskip

At "et" - using [nm1], but not the note cluster I'm looking for:
\gregorioscore{sample2}

\end{document}

sample1.gabc
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name:Paulominus ab Angelis;
office-part:Antiphona;
def-m1:\grechangeglyph{TorculusResupinus*}{*}{.alt};
def-m2:\greresetglyph{TorculusResupinus*};
%%
(c4) Pau(d)ló(f)mi(c)nus(d) ab(d) An(ixdh!i>)ge(h)lis<sp>*</sp>(h) mi(h)no(gf)rá(gh)tus,(h) (;)
gló(h)ri(h)a(hj) et(h) ho(g)nó(h)re(gh) co(eg)ro(fe)ná(d)tus(cd) est,([gm1]d) (:)
et(dgfg~) con([gm2]gh>)sti(fe)tú(df)tus(fc) su(c)per(d) ó(f)pe(g)ra(f) má(h)nu(g)um(efe) De(d)i.(d) (::)
<eu> E(h) U(h) O(g) U(f) A(gh) E.(g) </eu> (::)

sample2.gabc
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name:Paulominus ab Angelis;
office-part:Antiphona;
def-m1:\grechangeglyph{TorculusResupinus*}{*}{.alt};
def-m2:\greresetglyph{TorculusResupinus*};
%%
(c4) Pau(d)ló(f)mi(c)nus(d) ab(d) An(ixdh!i>)ge(h)lis<sp>*</sp>(h) mi(h)no(gf)rá(gh)tus,(h) (;)
gló(h)ri(h)a(hj) et(h) ho(g)nó(h)re(gh) co(eg)ro(fe)ná(d)tus(cd) est,([nm1]d) (:)
et(dgfg~) con([nm2]gh>)sti(fe)tú(df)tus(fc) su(c)per(d) ó(f)pe(g)ra(f) má(h)nu(g)um(efe) De(d)i.(d) (::)
<eu> E(h) U(h) O(g) U(f) A(gh) E.(g) </eu> (::)

Fr. Samuel Springuel

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Feb 16, 2022, 10:03:52 AMFeb 16
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There may be some scope issues that prevent these changes from carrying from one syllable to next. Two things to try:

1) Move the invocation of `[nm1]` to just before the notes associated with “et”. If this works, then the `[nm2]` invocation is probably not necessary.

2) Add `\global` to the beginning of your macro definitions. This will force the change to ignore scope restrictions and thus will definitely require the `[nm2]` macro to do the same for the reset.

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Thanks - I have now tried both of these suggestions singly and in combination but nothing has worked. I also tried removing the diminutis ~ to see if the shape variant mattered, but no effect. The output remains stubbornly the same regardless.
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Rob Leduc

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Feb 17, 2022, 12:15:36 PMFeb 17
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I think maybe a recent TeX Live update of packages may have broken something involving Gregorio Tex.  I did an update on Feb 9 and I believe code I previously used for the PorrectusLongqueue has stopped working when it has worked in the past. 

I don't pay attention to what updates usually, and so there are lots of packages that update that I don't believe I use at all.  So unfortunately, the attached list is very long.  But there are some updates that seem pretty basic to latex or lualatex that might have broken something, such as "latex", "luatex" and "luafindfont".  Of course, this might not be the problem at all. 

R

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Rob Leduc

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Feb 21, 2022, 2:50:26 PMFeb 21
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Further update on this:  If I put the TeX commands in the body of the tex file instead of trying to use them in a note-level macro, the code works (code below, output attached).  For my purposes, this will do for now.  I don't imagine I'll run into a piece with two different types of Torculus Resupinus (both alt and regular, that is) but who knows?  But something still seems wrong with the guts of Gregorio TeX here in the execution of macros.

mwe.tex
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% !TEX TS-program = lualatex
% !TEX encoding = UTF-8
\documentclass{book}
\usepackage[autocompile]{gregoriotex}
\begin{document}

At "et"  - using [gm1] the cluster I'm looking for, but an error:
\gregorioscore{sample1}
\bigskip\bigskip

At "et" - using [nm1] not the cluster I'm looking for:
\gregorioscore{sample2}


Changing in the TeX file for the whole piece works:
\grechangeglyph{TorculusResupinus*}{*}{.alt};
\gregorioscore{sample2}  %same piece that doesn't work with macros alone.
\greresetglyph{TorculusResupinus*}

\end{document}


sample1.gabc
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name:Paulominus ab Angelis;
office-part:Antiphona;
def-m1:\global\grechangeglyph{TorculusResupinus*}{*}{.alt};
def-m2:\global\greresetglyph{TorculusResupinus*};

%%
(c4) Pau(d)ló(f)mi(c)nus(d) ab(d) An(ixdh!i>)ge(h)lis<sp>*</sp>(h) mi(h)no(gf)rá(gh)tus,(h) (;)
gló(h)ri(h)a(hj) et(h) ho(g)nó(h)re(gh) co(eg)ro(fe)ná(d)tus(cd) est,(d) ([gm1]:)

et(dgfg~) con([gm2]gh>)sti(fe)tú(df)tus(fc) su(c)per(d) ó(f)pe(g)ra(f) má(h)nu(g)um(efe) De(d)i.(d) (::)
<eu> E(h) U(h) O(g) U(f) A(gh) E.(g) </eu> (::)

sample2.gabc
------------------------
name:Paulominus ab Angelis;
office-part:Antiphona;
def-m1:\global\grechangeglyph{TorculusResupinus*}{*}{.alt};
def-m2:\global\greresetglyph{TorculusResupinus*};

%%
(c4) Pau(d)ló(f)mi(c)nus(d) ab(d) An(ixdh!i>)ge(h)lis<sp>*</sp>(h) mi(h)no(gf)rá(gh)tus,(h) (;)
gló(h)ri(h)a(hj) et(h) ho(g)nó(h)re(gh) co(eg)ro(fe)ná(d)tus(cd) est,(d) ([gm1]:)

et(dgfg~) con([gm2]gh>)sti(fe)tú(df)tus(fc) su(c)per(d) ó(f)pe(g)ra(f) má(h)nu(g)um(efe) De(d)i.(d) (::)
<eu> E(h) U(h) O(g) U(f) A(gh) E.(g) </eu> (::)
mwe.pdf

Fr. Samuel Springuel

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Feb 21, 2022, 3:02:08 PMFeb 21
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> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Rob Leduc <rled...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Further update on this: If I put the TeX commands in the body of the tex file instead of trying to use them in a note-level macro, the code works (code below, output attached).

Well, that is how those commands were originally designed to work. Using them inside macros in the gabc file is something of a hack and should only be used when you need both the standard and alternate form of a neume in the same work for some reason.
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