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Everardo Laboy
Thanks for the response. It is appreciated. However one of the reasons I asked this question, but didn't clarify it, is that iTunes is NOT recognizing the iPod even though Windows 10 does. And yes I did try multiple USB attachment and multiple USB ports, including a direct-to-computer connect, because I felt I could do the proper format restore in iTunes if I got there. Unfortunately I didn't get there.
At present my next "try" will be to use a friend's computer that has iTunes to see if that computer/iTunes mix recognizes the device. Were that to work, maybe my problem is with iTunes itself, but don't know this yet.
I found a neighbor with iTunes on a Windows PC. The neighbor's PC, and iTunes, were able to recognize the device as an iPod. I had the neighbor do an iTunes restore (again on a Windows machine); it worked fine, and his machine, and iTunes, was able to read the device as an iPod.
However, when I came home and USB connected the iPod to my machine (using the same cable cord I used at the neighbor's) Windows 10 recognized it only as a USB device; not an iPod, and obviously, iTunes didn't recognize it at all. What am I doing wrong?
PS: Another odd thing: When I use the click-wheel commands to attempt to do a diagnostic test, it doesn't work. When the Apple logo appears, and I switch the one finger to the click-wheel command on the left to call up the diagnostics white screen, it hesitates for awhile and then goes back to the menu screen. So while it looks like an iPod, it doesn't behave like an iPod for this particular function. Also tried to do a DFU Restore using click-wheel commands and that didn't work either.
Even if it's possible the issue is with the version of iTunes (although I'm on the current version retrieved via the website; not the Store); that wouldn't appear to explain my click-wheel dilemma which is independent of iTunes.
It likely doesn't matter which you use, though exFAT is probably the most appropriate. If you reformat in Windows, then restore using iTunes, then iTunes will address the disk format during the restore. For example iTunes for Windows has always been able to restore Mac formatted iPods even though Windows has no clue how to handle HFS+.
See also iOS device not showing in iTunes for Windows - Apple Community. Despite the title the same process should help with older iPods, but the driver update method is intended for the old school installer version of iTunes rather than the one that comes through the Microsoft Store.
The classic iTunes64Setup.exe version of iTunes may perform better for this legacy task than the version that comes through the Microsoft Store, but perhaps you've already switched to that. You could temporarily revert to iTunes 12.6.5.3 (see Managing apps with iTunes 12.7 or later - Apple Community) which was the last version that could transfer iPod Clickwheel games and may do a better job. Or it could be that restoring on Windows 7 or even a Mac is the way to move forward. The device likely won't display properly as an iPod until the firmware has been restored, but iTunes should be able to do that. I don't know why it isn't working for you.
Now that the device is formatted in FAT32 and you're using the traditional iTunes installer try iOS device not showing in iTunes for Windows - Apple Community once more. It is important to explicitly select the correct driver even when told that Windows already has the best driver or warns against making the change.
Tried the DFU Restore and did get the blank screen as you suggested. However Windows 10 showed the device as a USB disk; not an iPod. Concurrently the actual iPod displayed a message on the black screen stating use ITunes to restore. With that message I then turned on iTunes where it gave me a message stating it was retrieving the recovery software to restore the iPod and that I should leave the iPod connected. But then when I looked at the actual iPod display it showed it in Disk Mode (as was also shown in Windows 10) with a message to NOT disconnect.
The DFU process works, when completed the iPod screen states USE iTunes TO RESTORE, and when I turn iTunes back on iTunes displays it's doing the recovery and prep work (the iPod is connected via USB while this is going on). Unfortunately while this is going on the iPod in Windows 10 continues to show as a disk; not as an iPod. This is driving me nuts because a restore/erase ought to be simple.
I'm at the point where I can't seem to get the iPod out of disk mode no matter what I try (doing the system diagnostics test & reset doesn't seem to make a difference, as it always seems to come back to the apple logo followed by the disk screen stating do not disconnect), and I've found no solution anywhere for converting exfat format to fat32. Is it because I can't change the disk (iPod) to fat32 that iTunes cannot recognize the device?
Would like to help but can't provide you the HDD stats. Whether standalone, or connected to the computer via USB cable/port, the only responses I get when turning on the iPod and/or using the click-wheel commands are the Apple logo, followed by a screen that notes Use iTunes to Restore. So this iPod appears to be in permanent disk mode and I have no idea how to get out of it.
PS: Again i tried multiple times to restore via iTunes since that's what the device said to do, but again nothing happened in iTunes, and in looking at My Computer in Windows 10 the iPod device continued to appear as a USB Disk with 148gb of free space.
I'm sure you should be able to get into diagnostics mode even when the device won't start up normally. Showing up as an external drive is standard when the device is in recovery mode and wants to be restored. Yes, try restoring on another computer, or as I said previously try dropping back to iTunes 12.6.5.3 temporarily.
Found something interesting I want to share with you. Found a neighbor with an Apple Mac and he was able to restore my iPod immediately. However when I plugged the restored iPod into my computer to use iTunes, I received a message stating that the device needed to be formatted (apparently the Mac formatted it as a 128kb file). So I did format in Windows 10 selecting the exfat default (since it did not offer fat32) and re-connected to iTunes.
After letting the Mac restore it you should restore it again in iTunes for Windows. Don't use Windows tools to format the drive. If Windows 10 (or at least your machine) still won't do it properly then find someone running Windows 7 to help.
I don't know for sure but I thought you weren't able to mount iPod's directly under Linux. There are tools like libgpod which can help here but it depends what you are trying to do exactly.
Think of it this way. Even on a Mac or Windows computer you can't mount the drive directly either can you? You are only able to use the functions iTunes provides.
Yes, it is possible to mount an ipod on Mac OSX, Windows, and Linux, which is why it can be used like any other usb storage device (you have to configure the iPod in iTunes to allow this). I managed to get this working, and am playing music from my Mac formatted iPod on my Arch Linux as I type.
In my case, I downgraded to kernel26 2.6.37-6 (using the excellent AUR package "downgrade", by the way) and now the iPod mounts automatically with HAL, allowing it to be used with gtkpod and gpodder. I have "hfs", "hfsplus", and "!ehci_hcd" in the MODULES array in /etc/rc.conf and also have hfsprogs installed via AUR.
Please note: In order to actually write to the iPod (e.g. for the purposes of syncing or otherwise copying music or podcasts to the iPod) you must disable journaling on the device. This can be done by connecting the iPod to a Mac (running Leopard or Snow Leopard - I don't know about earlier versions of Mac OSX) and issuing the following command in the Terminal:
I realise this thread might be getting old, but as a matter of interest, would you mind telling us how you went about this? I managed to make my machine temporarily unbootable with "downgrade". I'm comparatively new to Arch, and more used to the old Slackware approach of just recompiling everything from scratch...
A client sent me a working Macintosh Classic II running System 7.0.1, with several old projects on the internal hard drive. They wanted to get this data transferred and converted to something modern. Since it was bootable and had an external SCSI port, I decided to hookup an external drive to copy the data rather than open the case and pull out the boot disk, or wait for things to sputter along using LocalTalk.
I pulled an 80MB drive from my stack of spares, hooked it up to a SCSI sled (a coverless external case), and connected this to my PowerBook Wallstreet to format the disk. 68k Macs require disks to be formatted in the Mac OS Standard (HFS) filesystem, not the newer Mac OS Extended (HFS+) flavor. The Wallstreet runs Mac OS 9.2.2, and the included disk utility is called Drive Setup. I mounted the old (noisy) transfer drive, selected Mac OS Standard format, and quickly partitioned the disk.
SCSI chains require each device on the bus to have a different ID number, and both ends of the chain need to be terminated. On older Macs the internal hard drive was set to SCSI ID 0 and terminated at the motherboard; the system itself used SCSI ID 7. Any external devices need to use ID 1-6, with a terminator. I configured my drive as ID 2, added a passive external terminator, and booted up the Mac.
I shut down and swapped the SCSI cable out for another. After a few minutes the whine went away. Such are the risks of old hardware. Still no go on mounting the external drive though, and now SCSIProbe was complaining about a lack of termination on the bus.
Another distant memory surfaced: back in the System 7 days (and earlier), Apple used a different utility for formatting disks called Apple HD SC Setup. The name goes back to the very first Mac external hard drive, and the interface is minimal at best, but version 7.3.5 still ran under OS 9. It was worth a try. Launch, click Initialize, wait 15 minutes, and presto: one freshly formatted prehistoric Mac OS hard drive.
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