Fabricating Lies and more brazen Lies: 'Term mob lynching comes from Bible, says Mohan Bhagwat: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) Chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday said that some incidents of violence such as lynchings were actually being branded to defame India, Hindu society and create fear among some communities.'
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Sukla Sen
Oct 9, 2019, 3:33:15 AM10/9/19
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[《According to the RSS chief, the word lynching comes from an incident in the Bible where Jesus Christ told people to hit a woman with stones only if they had never committed any sin in their pasts.
The RSS chief said that India had no such history as Indian culture taught peaceful co-existence.》
Does it surprise anyone that the wise one never heard of the following?
《"(76) Hearing the [inquiring] words of Rama of imperishable exploits, that ascetic, his head still hanging downwards [as part of his austerities] answered:— 'O Rama, I was born of a Shudra alliance and I am performing this rigorous penance in order to acquire the status of a God in this body. I am not telling a lie, O Rama, I wish to attain the Celestial Region. Know that I am a Shudra and my name is Shambuka.' ***As he was yet speaking, Raghava [Rama], drawing his brilliant and stainless sword from its scabbard, cut off his head*** [emphasis added]. The Shudra being slain, all the Gods and their leaders with Agni's followers, cried out, 'Well done! Well done!' overwhelming Rama with praise, and a rain of celestial flowers of divine fragrance fell on all sides, scattered by Vayu. In their supreme satisfaction, the Gods said to that hero, Rama:— 'Thou hast protected the interests of the Gods, O Highly Intelligent Prince, now ask a boon, O beloved Offspring of Raghu, Destroyer of Thy Foes. By thy grace, this Shudra will not be able to attain heaven!'" (583-84)
The Ramayana of Valmiki trans. Hari Prasad Shastri (London: Shanti Sadan, 1970): 3:579-85.》
(As quoted by Dr. B R Ambedkar.)
(Ref.: <http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/…/m…/ambedkar/web/texts/6755.html>.)
Nor of the practice of
burning women alive at the pyres of their just deceased husbands or inhuman treatments of Dalits???
Nor of Emperor Ashoka's eight-year long Kalinga War involving massive bloodbath and brutalities, more than 250 years before Christ.
(Ref.: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinga_War>.).
Even if one forgets about all these, how about the two great mythological epics!?
Peaceful Co-existence!
My foot!]
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/lynchings-being-used-to-defame-india-hindus-rss-chief-mohan-bhagwat-1607257-2019-10-08?fbclid=IwAR3gPnV0-ay2a74ehkakJeXdvOyrgrFqFpucXajHlnTITX2ISMWMbTWp2Z8
Term mob lynching comes from Bible, says Mohan Bhagwat
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) Chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday said that some incidents of violence such as lynchings were actually being branded to defame India, Hindu society and create fear among some communities.
Mumbai
October 8, 2019UPDATED: October 8, 2019 21:02 IST
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) Chief Mohan Bhagwat (File Photo)
HIGHLIGHTS
RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday said that incidents of violence such as lynchings were actually being branded to defame India, Hindu society
“They want to create a fight between the two communities by dragging the Sangh name in the incidents,” said Mohan Bhagat
The RSS chief was speaking at the foundation day celebrations at Maharashtra's Nagpur
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday patted the back of the Narendra Modi government and said that the government has the strength to take strong steps to take the country ahead. While addressing the Vijayadashami celebrations in Nagpur, Mohan Bhagwat backed the government for making attempts to bring the economy back on track.
However, he urged the government to take quick and stern action against those who break the law and disrupt peace in the country.
The RSS chief said there was an attempt to foster differences between communities based on language, caste and religion. "India’s respect is growing in the International arena but there are some people who do not like it. Then, they create trouble in India. What does the retaliatory power of society look like? In India’s unity is its retaliatory power."
Mohan Bhagwat claimed that while several communal incidents are reported on a daily basis, not all were true. The RSS chief said that no one community could be blamed for the incidents and in several cases, there was no communal angle to the crime.
Bhagwat devoted a substantial amount of time from his hour-long speech on mob lynching as he claimed that RSS name was being dragged into the debate.
"No one from Sangh gets into such troubles. If such activities are about to happen then they, in fact, try to stop it," Bhagwat said. He added that associating Hindu and Sangh with such activities was a conspiracy.
Further elaborating on the word lynching he said that old stories related to this come from a sacred book that was prepared outside this country. "So this does not have anything to do with Hindu religion," Bhagwat said.
According to the RSS chief, the word lynching comes from an incident in the Bible where Jesus Christ told people to hit a woman with stones only if they had never committed any sin in their pasts.
The RSS chief said that India had no such history as Indian culture taught peaceful co-existence.
"Our ancient stories say that when two communities fought for water, then amicable solutions were provided and the issues were resolved," said Bhagwat. Calling mob lynching a word that has been imposed on India from a foreign land, the RSS chief said Indians have a chance to live peacefully and set an example for the world.
Mohan Bhagwat further added that mob lynchings were acts of a small crowd that should face a strong legal action.
Mohan Bhagwat's statement that RSS had no links to mob lynching incidents received political backlash as Congress and AIMIM termed it a falsehood.
Reacting to Bhagwat's statement AIMIM chief Asaduddin Owaisi tweeted, "The victims were Indians. Who garlanded convicts? Who draped them in (tricolour)? We have a Godse loving BJP MP. There can’t be bigger defamation of India than an ideology that killed Gandhi/Tabrez. Bhagwat isn’t saying stop lynching, he’s saying don’t call it that’."
On the other hand Maharashtra Congress leader Sachin Sawant is reported to have said, "It is as much a lie to say that RSS has nothing to do with lynchings as it is a lie to say that RSS is a cultural organisation, is anti-casteist, pro-reservation and respects the Constitution and tricolour. Spreading falsehood is the ideology of the Sangh Parivar."
-- The RSS chief said that India had no such history as Indian culture taught peaceful co-existence.》
Does it surprise anyone that the wise one never heard of the following?
《"(76) Hearing the [inquiring] words of Rama of imperishable exploits, that ascetic, his head still hanging downwards [as part of his austerities] answered:— 'O Rama, I was born of a Shudra alliance and I am performing this rigorous penance in order to acquire the status of a God in this body. I am not telling a lie, O Rama, I wish to attain the Celestial Region. Know that I am a Shudra and my name is Shambuka.' ***As he was yet speaking, Raghava [Rama], drawing his brilliant and stainless sword from its scabbard, cut off his head*** [emphasis added]. The Shudra being slain, all the Gods and their leaders with Agni's followers, cried out, 'Well done! Well done!' overwhelming Rama with praise, and a rain of celestial flowers of divine fragrance fell on all sides, scattered by Vayu. In their supreme satisfaction, the Gods said to that hero, Rama:— 'Thou hast protected the interests of the Gods, O Highly Intelligent Prince, now ask a boon, O beloved Offspring of Raghu, Destroyer of Thy Foes. By thy grace, this Shudra will not be able to attain heaven!'" (583-84)
The Ramayana of Valmiki trans. Hari Prasad Shastri (London: Shanti Sadan, 1970): 3:579-85.》
(As quoted by Dr. B R Ambedkar.)
(Ref.: <http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/…/m…/ambedkar/web/texts/6755.html>.)
Nor of the practice of
burning women alive at the pyres of their just deceased husbands or inhuman treatments of Dalits???
Nor of Emperor Ashoka's eight-year long Kalinga War involving massive bloodbath and brutalities, more than 250 years before Christ.
(Ref.: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinga_War>.).
Even if one forgets about all these, how about the two great mythological epics!?
Peaceful Co-existence!
My foot!]
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/lynchings-being-used-to-defame-india-hindus-rss-chief-mohan-bhagwat-1607257-2019-10-08?fbclid=IwAR3gPnV0-ay2a74ehkakJeXdvOyrgrFqFpucXajHlnTITX2ISMWMbTWp2Z8
Term mob lynching comes from Bible, says Mohan Bhagwat
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) Chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday said that some incidents of violence such as lynchings were actually being branded to defame India, Hindu society and create fear among some communities.
Mumbai
October 8, 2019UPDATED: October 8, 2019 21:02 IST
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) Chief Mohan Bhagwat (File Photo)
HIGHLIGHTS
RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday said that incidents of violence such as lynchings were actually being branded to defame India, Hindu society
“They want to create a fight between the two communities by dragging the Sangh name in the incidents,” said Mohan Bhagat
The RSS chief was speaking at the foundation day celebrations at Maharashtra's Nagpur
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat on Tuesday patted the back of the Narendra Modi government and said that the government has the strength to take strong steps to take the country ahead. While addressing the Vijayadashami celebrations in Nagpur, Mohan Bhagwat backed the government for making attempts to bring the economy back on track.
However, he urged the government to take quick and stern action against those who break the law and disrupt peace in the country.
The RSS chief said there was an attempt to foster differences between communities based on language, caste and religion. "India’s respect is growing in the International arena but there are some people who do not like it. Then, they create trouble in India. What does the retaliatory power of society look like? In India’s unity is its retaliatory power."
Mohan Bhagwat claimed that while several communal incidents are reported on a daily basis, not all were true. The RSS chief said that no one community could be blamed for the incidents and in several cases, there was no communal angle to the crime.
Bhagwat devoted a substantial amount of time from his hour-long speech on mob lynching as he claimed that RSS name was being dragged into the debate.
"No one from Sangh gets into such troubles. If such activities are about to happen then they, in fact, try to stop it," Bhagwat said. He added that associating Hindu and Sangh with such activities was a conspiracy.
Further elaborating on the word lynching he said that old stories related to this come from a sacred book that was prepared outside this country. "So this does not have anything to do with Hindu religion," Bhagwat said.
According to the RSS chief, the word lynching comes from an incident in the Bible where Jesus Christ told people to hit a woman with stones only if they had never committed any sin in their pasts.
The RSS chief said that India had no such history as Indian culture taught peaceful co-existence.
"Our ancient stories say that when two communities fought for water, then amicable solutions were provided and the issues were resolved," said Bhagwat. Calling mob lynching a word that has been imposed on India from a foreign land, the RSS chief said Indians have a chance to live peacefully and set an example for the world.
Mohan Bhagwat further added that mob lynchings were acts of a small crowd that should face a strong legal action.
Mohan Bhagwat's statement that RSS had no links to mob lynching incidents received political backlash as Congress and AIMIM termed it a falsehood.
Reacting to Bhagwat's statement AIMIM chief Asaduddin Owaisi tweeted, "The victims were Indians. Who garlanded convicts? Who draped them in (tricolour)? We have a Godse loving BJP MP. There can’t be bigger defamation of India than an ideology that killed Gandhi/Tabrez. Bhagwat isn’t saying stop lynching, he’s saying don’t call it that’."
On the other hand Maharashtra Congress leader Sachin Sawant is reported to have said, "It is as much a lie to say that RSS has nothing to do with lynchings as it is a lie to say that RSS is a cultural organisation, is anti-casteist, pro-reservation and respects the Constitution and tricolour. Spreading falsehood is the ideology of the Sangh Parivar."
Peace Is Doable
Sukla Sen
Oct 9, 2019, 3:38:27 AM10/9/19
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Sorry!
The link to the quote from the Ramayna by Dr. Ambedkar:
<http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/ambedkar/web/texts/6755.html?fbclid=IwAR0TNr8bEXAT5hjlNxPM3tHSKcuPLruMTM9qiZDgaH9exhs5Pf3gwgqT_hc>.
Sukla
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Peace Is Doable
The link to the quote from the Ramayna by Dr. Ambedkar:
<http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/ambedkar/web/texts/6755.html?fbclid=IwAR0TNr8bEXAT5hjlNxPM3tHSKcuPLruMTM9qiZDgaH9exhs5Pf3gwgqT_hc>.
Sukla
Peace Is Doable
Sukla Sen
Oct 11, 2019, 2:22:39 AM10/11/19
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Lynching in the Mahabharata (Shanti Parva):
《"Charvaka said, 'All these Brahmanas, making me their spokesman, are saying, 'Fie on thee! Thou art a wicked king. Thou art a slayer of kinsmen. What shalt thou gain, O son of Kunti, by having thus exterminated thy race? Having slain also thy superiors and preceptor, it is proper for thee to cast away thy life.' Hearing these words of that wicked Rakshasa the Brahmanas there became deeply agitated. Stung by that speech, they made a loud uproar. And all of them, with king Yudhishthira. O monarch, became speechless from anxiety and shame.'
"Yudhishthira said, 'I bow down to you and beseech you humbly, be gratified with me. It doth not behove you to cry fie on me. I shall soon lay down my life.' 1
"Vaisampayana continued, 'Then all those Brahmanas, O king, loudly said, 'These are not our words. Prosperity to thee, O monarch!' Those high-souled persons, conversant with the Vedas, with understanding rendered clear by penances, then penetrated the disguise of the speaker by means of their spiritual sight.' And they said, 'This is the Rakshasa Charvaka, the friend of Duryodhana. Having put on the garb of a religious mendicant, he seeks the good of his friend Duryodhana. We have not, O thou of righteous soul, said anything of the kind. Let this anxiety of thine be dispelled. Let prosperity attend upon thee with thy brothers.'
"Vaisampayana continued, 'These Brahmanas then, insensate with rage, uttered the sound Hun. Cleansed of all sins, ***they censured the sinful Rakshasa and slew him there*** [emphasis added] (with that very sound). Consumed by the energy of those utterers of Brahma, Charvaka fell down dead, like a tree with all its sprouts blasted by the thunder of Indra. Duly worshipped, the Brahmanas went away, having gladdened the king with their benedictions. The royal son of Pandu also, with all his friends, felt great happiness.》
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