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[Hydrostan]

After a 4 year hiatus (for various reasons) I got back to hydroponics this summer, and I'm glad to be back! In the past I've always used General Hydroponic nutrients, and while I've had success with their products I thought I'd take a look and see what is new out there in the Hydroponic world. I visited my hydroponic store in town and discovered that the owner had some broccoli growing under a grow light that was doing extremely well. I asked what nutrient he was using and he informed me it was "Cyco  Grow, Parts A and B. I noticed there is also a "Cyco Bloom" available.

My question is if anyone uses this nutrient and if so would appreciate a critique of it.

Thanks!

[CASEY MONTE]

hi mate

cyco is a good plant food, but dont bypass 

all aussie made formulas

they are specifically made for our water and weather conditions

brands like plantastic,lush and greendream are worth trying

and also less expense

thanks 

paul

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[Bob]

GH just works.  The tried and true Lucas formula is simple and effective.

5ml of micro,  10ml of bloom per gallon. Always put the micro in first.

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[syd bluemountains]

I run a mixed flood/drain system  with tomatos, eggplants, peppers and am on a tight budget so use best value general nutrients .
I use PODRON.  Comes in  2 sacks, about $55 each part. Lasts me 2 years.   Only problem is 1 part sucks up moisture from atmosphere and turns
into a large brick. Have to chip away at it to get it to crumb so I can mix a batch of nutrients.

I get OK results though. 

[Bob]

Try  GH nutes.   Ive used dry nutes too.  I wont go back.  GH are much more cost effective when you examine the end results.

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[Hydrostan]

GH???

[Bob]

GH = General Hydroponics

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[Joe Cyber (Cyber-Hydroponics)]

Hi All,

not all nutrients are the same, this is why some work and some work great.

i design nutrient solutions for commercial operations.

and water quality is a important, some town water supplies will upset soft crops like lettuce.

cyco grow like most 2 part nutrients will work great. however the secret if you can call it is the changing of the nutrient.

dumping the nutrient solution once a week will maintain good growth. this is the truth of it, the formulation might not be correct for the crop.

however it has all the elements required, and this is what the plant is after.

correct EC and pH in the green zone. element available in soluble form we have growth.

powdered nutrients work

liquid single part work

liquid 2 part work better

liquid 3 part work best (if you get the right amount of each part)

why?

powdered nutrient has the same elements as all the rest.

why?

my answer i will break it down so it can be explained easily.

nutrient when made are mixed together in a concentrate. they dissolve and create bonds with each other.

this has different affects temperature, concentrations of what other elements were dissolved before it. all come into play.

so buying 2 powder packs and poring them into a bucket filling it up with a hose your creating lots of bonds some good some bad.

this is a reason why it is the case that powders are at the work part of the list.

single part,

this is a challenge 

you have elements that really like each other. calcium and sulphate.

just to name one set, have the sulphate level too high and BAM you have white powder on the bottom.

(experiment: add some A and B together in concentrate you have Calcium sulphate)

so you can add binders to inhibit the reaction. or reduce the sulphate in the formulation.

this is why it is also in the works part of the list.

2 part

having the calcium and sulphate in different bottles allows you to keep them apart.

this gives you more room so to speak. some manufactures use this room to create more of the good bonds.

by adding certain elements together and allowing the good joining before adding the next elements.

while others just dump it in an add water. this is why there is differences in brands and how some seem to work better then others.

3 part

i put this in the best category as it allows the designer the most room to move.

as it can allow the creation of some really cool bonds. if they use this room i do not know.

however on a whole from what a majority have said it works good. each have some advice on how much of each you add.

and all seem to say it works good. 

have fun and keep growing.

Joe  

[Bob]

Medical plants grow very well in hydro.

Many growers use General Hydroponics nutrients.

Not because they are 'best' newest' 'hottest' but

for one simple set of reasons.

Extremely consistent nutrients that are easy to use

and plants love them.

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[Joe Cyber (Cyber-Hydroponics)]

Nutrients have followers,

so i can say that the liquid nutrients work in general better then the dry ones.

however the cost of dry make growing your own vegetables much more cost saving.

and they are general purpose in nature so they have a good result. (if the water is good).

the issue with 1 part of the dry pack setting like tombstone is the Calcium Nitrate (hydroscopic).

Keep it air tight and it should last.

As for what nutrient works better than another. i would look more to the additives.

like BOOST (hydrocenter.com.au) i was there when they added it to a system.

2 weeks later i was impressed with the way the plants had grown.

in commercial operations i look towards high quality Kelp, Fulvic and other organic elements.

for that extra bit.

good luck to all

Joe  

   

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:59:18 UTC+10, Hydrostan wrote: