Green Park Estate Feed Back - 21112012

[Eric Aligula]

Greenparkers

Good afternoon!

This is to advise that houses no. 107 and 114 were broken into early this morning.  Various household items were taken away, including Flat screen TVs and Laptops.  No one was injured, but some were threatened with death.

We are gathering details and will revert.

Kind regards

Eric Aligula Magolo

Proudly Kenyan, Kenyan By Nature!

“In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility……….I welcome it.”

John F. Kennedy

“To allow other people’s assessment of you to determine your own self-assessment is a very big mistake”

Columbia University President Lee Bollinger

"Far better to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory, nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

"Ex Africa semper aliquid novi"

“Per aspera ad astra!

[Carole Mutisya]

Dear Neighbours,

A big thank you to Eric and his team for the quick action.

We would like to agree that we work more towards being our neighbours' keepers, and disagree with the idea of high fences and gates.

 

As an example, very recently, about 2 weeks ago, we had a major electrical fault at our house at the main meter box at the front of the house. This happened during the day, with the house help at the back of the compound. Thankfully, it was our immediate neighbour(s) towards the front of our house that noticed the smoking meter, notified our house help, thereby averting a possible disaster. I do not want to imagine what might have transpired if we had a gate and a high fence.

Let's address the security issues we are faced with, mainly the laxity by SHK to do more once they have sold the houses. The sooner we have an effective management (by residents) in place, the better for us all.

Wishing you all a good day.

Please - I'm unable to reply to all.

 

Kind regards,

Steve and Carole.

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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Green Park Estate Feed Back - 21112012

Dear Greenparkers

The security breach and theft is alarming and a big thank you to the Chairman and committee for quick action.

That said, we have charged Superior Homes with our security and we pay a lot of money for it. There has to be accountability from Superior Homes, even with the additional security measures. The whole idea of a gated community is that its secure enough to not need high fences or individual gates. Superior Homes is selling that concept and they need to ensure they can put their money where their mouth is. If people don't feel safe they won't buy and those already here may consider alternative residence where their safety is assured. So the buck stops squarely with Superior Homes. It is disheartening to see that each street has no dedicated security patrol and the casual labourers should always use the main gate and not the entrance near the SH offices. We often see a few coming in via the other entrance as early as 6.15am.

We agree with Emmanuel about using what we have better - security lights. I would add that we each need to be our neighbours watchman, we are a community and we need to make more effort to know who our neighbours are (we are guilty of not doing this properly) its easier to identify strangers once we do this.

It would be great to hear the voices of the rest of the Greenpark community especially at a time like this. It seems that only a few people respond to email (and its the same people every time) and perhaps we need more than one way of communicating and receiving feedback on what has been communicated.

Making our fences higher and having individual gates only serves to shut us in more and makes it more difficult to reach you in times of emergency. We reiterate that when we all moved here we saw what the environment was like and bought into it, we can improve on it but closing ourselves in is not the answer. Enhancing security and making the people charged with it fully accountable when incidences like thefts and break-ins happen is paramount, we can't stress this enough.

Let's all work together and pull together as a community because we can make Greenpark a safe and secure place to stay. The power is in our hands.

Have a blessed day.
Sarah & Vincent
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Emmanuel Kitonyo <emmanue...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Fellow Residents,

Having seen the pictures that Eric attached of the burglary evidence (broken stone walls), it seems to me that a 5-foot high live fence would be no deterrent.

What I have noticed is that most of us do not use our house security lights (at the back, front and sides of the house) and rely only on the street lighting.  I don't know by what percentage it will increase our electricity bills but if we all put on our security lights, there will be hardly any area of the estate that is in shadow after nightfall.

This, in combination with the visibility afforded by the 1-metre fences, plus the enhanced security guard detail, would be much better, in my opinion, than trying to guarantee our security individually by erecting higher fences and installing gates.

On 21 November 2012 20:42, Dr. Francis W. Mulwa <pre...@africaonline.co.ke> wrote:

Dear Eric,

Thanks for this important alert Eric. This rekindles my doubts about the new concept of gateless homes. While I appreciate the rationale behind it, we could at least reconsider its flip side and make some new provisions. While we should continue to rule out concrete security walls, we should reinforce the need for each home to have a reasonably good height of a life fence. A provision could be given for up to five feet for instance. Then provide for erection of (more or less standardized????) gates that can allow people to see through. That will make our home compounds more secure and  less vulnerable to such incidences of burglary. It will also enhance sense of privacy.

 

I know I may sound out of tune with modernity given that I belong to the golden age bracket. Nevertheless, please give it a thought. I believe any bad intentioned person will think twice before jumping over the life fence or the gate, and still our homes will remain decent.   

 

Francis (176)

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[Patrick Ngenga]

Dear Neighbours!

Here is what I suggested to chair a while back.. only if we can afford. Our service charge is quite high so I hope we can..

We should consider hiring a credible professional security firm the likes of KK Security/BM Security. The process of hiring such a firm can begin with us coming up with TOR of what our expectations in terms of security are (manning the main gate, patrolling in and around the estate etc) With a TOR we can request proposals from the selected from selected top security firms. Such a firm can work with an estate security sub-committee chaired by a resident with security background to put the necessary measures. A process similar to what was followed in getting someone to run the Kindergarten.

The committee's role then will be to manage the service agreement with the security firm. If there breaches in security then we would have someone to hold accountable. On the other hand the security firm will use its experience and technical expertise to and enrich whatever we want to do in terms of security, hopefully without burdening residents with excessive procedures some which may not add value in terms of security.

This route my cost us a little bit more, but its the route I would recommend if it is affordable. A credible security firm is also a deterrent in its own right.

Patrick Ngenga (House No. FB 008A)

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From: Arnold Njue <arno...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Green Park Lifestyle] Green Park Estate Feed Back - 23112012
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Dear Greenparkers ,

It is sad to learn of the security lapses in our estate .My empathy goes to the afflicted 

Last night (22nd November 2012), I arrived at about 11pm and I had  to open both gates for myself .

The reason being that both guards for the barrier and the gate had chosen an apt time to catch a snooze 

I figured maybe that this were the "stop-gap measure guards" because the others had ceased duty as per Eric's email 

That was baffling , and i would hate to imagine what if I was a stranger up to no good 

To reiterate what Arodi  has said , it is INDEED worrying . That notwithstanding, we can pull through and make this estate a safe haven

 for all.

Kindest Regards

Arnold .M.Njue (HSE 36)

"The greatest mistake a man can make is to be afraid to make one ".

.Ebbert Hubbard 

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Eric Aligula Magolo

Proudly Kenyan, Kenyan By Nature!

“In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility……….I welcome it.”

John F. Kennedy

“To allow other people’s assessment of you to determine your own self-assessment is a very big mistake”

Columbia University President Lee Bollinger

"Far better to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory, nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

"Ex Africa semper aliquid novi"

“Per aspera ad astra!”