Hello! Question about Shared Freezer Programs
Christina Greever
Barry Reid
On 18 Aug 2023, at 19:04, 'Christina Greever' via Green Labs Planning <green-lab...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello Green Labs Planning Group! We've been quiet of late. I hope everyone is doing well.
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Christina Greever-Wilson
Hi Barry,
Thank you for your reply! Do you know of any particular points of contact in the UK that have freezer space rental programs, that I could connect with the person who reached out to My Green Lab about this?
Sincerely,
Christina
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Date: Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Hello! Question about Shared Freezer Programs
Hi there!
Barry form Cambridge, UK here…
Sharing/renting freezer space is quite common over here in the UK (sometimes as main cryostorage and sometimes as mirror samples for disaster recovery).
One tip that you might want to emulate is find yourself a good metal fabricator and get them to fabricate anodised colour coded aluminium (aluminum) racks. That way each group can identify samples/location easier. It also help stop cross contamination (if a red rack ends up in a blue freezer it’s then very obvious)… it can also be used in the event of freezer/power failures - eg. ‘In the event of an emergency - save the RED racks first”
One more thing… we have found by asking the fabricator to add a couple of extra pop rivets during manufacture the racks tend to last much much longer - it’s worth the extra few cents!
Hope that helps,
If you need more info/photos - feel free to drop me a line…
Warm regards,
Barry.
Here’s a few examples… even a very proud Welsh customer wanted it with Welsh flag colours!
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On 18 Aug 2023, at 19:04, 'Christina Greever' via Green Labs Planning <green-lab...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hello Green Labs Planning Group! We've been quiet of late. I hope everyone is doing well.
I'm with My Green Lab, and I've received a question from a lab we engage with about whether any institutions other than University of Colorado Boulder have trialed or implemented a shared freezer program, where scientists rent space in a freezer and pay a fee, instead of having to buy their own unit. This person is already connected with the CU Boulder crew, but is wondering if there are other models out there.
Thanks all!
Take care of yourselves.
Christina Greever-Wilson
Senior Program Manager
My Green Lab
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Barry Reid
On 25 Aug 2023, at 00:11, 'Christina Greever-Wilson' via Green Labs Planning <green-lab...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi Barry,
Thank you for your reply! Do you know of any particular points of contact in the UK that have freezer space rental programs, that I could connect with the person who reached out to My Green Lab about this?
Sincerely,
Christina
Christina Greever-Wilson
Senior Program Manager (she/her/hers)
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From: green-lab...@googlegroups.com <green-lab...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Barry Reid <barry...@gpescientific.co.uk>
Date: Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:23 PM
To: green-lab...@googlegroups.com <green-lab...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello! Question about Shared Freezer ProgramsHi there!
Barry form Cambridge, UK here…
Sharing/renting freezer space is quite common over here in the UK (sometimes as main cryostorage and sometimes as mirror samples for disaster recovery).
One tip that you might want to emulate is find yourself a good metal fabricator and get them to fabricate anodised colour coded aluminium (aluminum) racks. That way each group can identify samples/location easier. It also help stop cross contamination (if a red rack ends up in a blue freezer it’s then very obvious)… it can also be used in the event of freezer/power failures - eg. ‘In the event of an emergency - save the RED racks first”
One more thing… we have found by asking the fabricator to add a couple of extra pop rivets during manufacture the racks tend to last much much longer - it’s worth the extra few cents!
Hope that helps,
If you need more info/photos - feel free to drop me a line…
Warm regards,
Barry.
Here’s a few examples… even a very proud Welsh customer wanted it with Welsh flag colours!
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Allen Doyle
Hi Christina,
In my limited experience with visiting two biorepositories and seeing one quote, commercial biorepositories are very secure facilities with backup power, backup freezers, confidential storage, and professional chain-of-custody and cold-chain security. With these services, I have found that this business model costs about 10-50x the cost per sample of running (and sometimes ignoring) freezers at a university. My impression is that commercial biorepositories are appropriate and affordable only for the highest priority samples, from clinical trials, for example.
I’m really curious to see an intermediate business model, a less formal “freezer library” with some added supervision and management, and with some self-serve features and a lower cost than commercial, high security biorepositories. Shane Stennes at the University of Minnesota may have some insight with their on-campus repository, and its business model. The Mind Institute at UC Davis was starting a rotating collection of frozen samples for visiting scientists in 2017, and I’d be interested to check back with them. That was an internal storage service, and not open to the public.
Anyone else?
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Gilly, Quentin Carl
I think University of Edinburgh does, but I don’t have any contacts there. (see attached).
Best,
Quentin
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Barry Reid
On 25 Aug 2023, at 17:06, Gilly, Quentin Carl <quenti...@harvard.edu> wrote:
I think University of Edinburgh does, but I don’t have any contacts there. (see attached).
Best,
Quentin
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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 8:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Hello! Question about Shared Freezer Programs
Hi Christina,
In my limited experience with visiting two biorepositories and seeing one quote, commercial biorepositories are very secure facilities with backup power, backup freezers, confidential storage, and professional chain-of-custody and cold-chain security. With these services, I have found that this business model costs about 10-50x the cost per sample of running (and sometimes ignoring) freezers at a university. My impression is that commercial biorepositories are appropriate and affordable only for the highest priority samples, from clinical trials, for example.
I’m really curious to see an intermediate business model, a less formal “freezer library” with some added supervision and management, and with some self-serve features and a lower cost than commercial, high security biorepositories. Shane Stennes at the University of Minnesota may have some insight with their on-campus repository, and its business model. The Mind Institute at UC Davis was starting a rotating collection of frozen samples for visiting scientists in 2017, and I’d be interested to check back with them. That was an internal storage service, and not open to the public.
Anyone else?
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Allen Doyle, MS
Safety and Sustainability Specialist
“Ensuring Safe & Efficient Airflow Systems for Critical Workspaces”
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Barry Reid
On 25 Aug 2023, at 00:11, 'Christina Greever-Wilson' via Green Labs Planning <green-lab...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi Barry,
Thank you for your reply! Do you know of any particular points of contact in the UK that have freezer space rental programs, that I could connect with the person who reached out to My Green Lab about this?
Sincerely,
Christina
Christina Greever-Wilson
Senior Program Manager (she/her/hers)
Work: +1.408.204.6066 | Base: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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From: green-lab...@googlegroups.com <green-lab...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Barry Reid <barry...@gpescientific.co.uk>
Date: Friday, August 18, 2023 at 12:23 PM
To: green-lab...@googlegroups.com <green-lab...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Hello! Question about Shared Freezer ProgramsHi there!
Barry form Cambridge, UK here…
Sharing/renting freezer space is quite common over here in the UK (sometimes as main cryostorage and sometimes as mirror samples for disaster recovery).
One tip that you might want to emulate is find yourself a good metal fabricator and get them to fabricate anodised colour coded aluminium (aluminum) racks. That way each group can identify samples/location easier. It also help stop cross contamination (if a red rack ends up in a blue freezer it’s then very obvious)… it can also be used in the event of freezer/power failures - eg. ‘In the event of an emergency - save the RED racks first”
One more thing… we have found by asking the fabricator to add a couple of extra pop rivets during manufacture the racks tend to last much much longer - it’s worth the extra few cents!
Hope that helps,
If you need more info/photos - feel free to drop me a line…
Warm regards,
Barry.
Here’s a few examples… even a very proud Welsh customer wanted it with Welsh flag colours!
Sent from my iPhone
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