Re: [greasemonkey-users] URGENT: Problem with uninstalling Greasemonkey

[Dora Smith]

Martino:

 

I don't specifically know; they deliberately make greasemonkey difficult.    But what you describe sounds more like something a greasemonkey script did than something greasemonkey did.   Perhaps you should have uninstalled the script from grease monkey before uninstalling greasemonkey; but since you uninstalled greasemonkey I don't know what to do at this point.

 

The person who wrote the greasemonkey script that brought me to this list said that some problems people have can be cleared up by clearing Mozilla's browser cache - which is harder than it ought to be to figure out and took me some time, because Mozilla was created by teh sort of people who brought us greasemonkey.  

 

What you might try is first clean out mozilla's browser cache, then uninstall mozilla, and reinstall it.  

 

You could also switch to Internet Explorer.   I use Mozilla only when I have to use one specific greasemonkey tool.    Less pain all around.   ;)    One hint; IE7 is full of problems; if you have it uninstall it and install IE 6.  

 

Always be careful when installing scripts on your computer; alot of them exist for Mozilla that look very appealing, but they could always be viruses and other malicious code, or have incompatibilities.   They are seldom if ever written by professionals.   

 

Now watch my reply get more interest than your query - and no, I won't be arguing with the Greasemonkey geeks!    ;)   

 

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
tigge...@yahoo.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Martino Valbusa

To: greasemon...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:20 AM

Subject: [greasemonkey-users] URGENT: Problem with uninstalling Greasemonkey

To whom it may concern


Dear Sir /  Madam,

This is Martino Valbusa writing from Verona, Italy. I hope that this finds you well.

I gave Greasemonkey a 2-week trial period, but I decided to uninstall it because it generally made my surfing less easy. Most screens had become difficult to read (gmail included).

I did uninstall Greasemonkey from my computer but... it looks as though Greasemonkey is still there, hidden somewhere in my computer! As a matter of fact, Firefox keeps me showing all internet pages in black and white; all colours have vanished, I cannot see most icons... It's pain!

I did try to uninstall Firefox and re-install it again. Failure: it looks as though Greasemonkey is still there, even though I uninstalled it from the proper Firefox Tools menu.

I can't help saying that I am quite upset, this has been the first time that I do not have a clue on how to solve a problem on a computer of mine and I use computers since 1990... I could format the hard disk, of course, but I would be happy to avoid the ultimate solution.

I do hope that you can help me out.

Thanking you in advance for your time and assistance,

I send you my kindest regards.

Martino - Verona, Italy

[Fernando Cassia]

On 8/25/07, Dora Smith <vill...@gmail.com> wrote:

Martino:

 

I don't specifically know; they deliberately make greasemonkey difficult. 

What is so difficult about something that can be turned on/off with  a single click over the "smiling monkey" Greasemonkey icon?

  But what you describe sounds more like something a greasemonkey script did than something greasemonkey did.   Perhaps you should have uninstalled the script from grease monkey before uninstalling greasemonkey; but since you uninstalled greasemonkey I don't know what to do at this point.

Throw your computer out the window. Really. It's just too complicated for you. No, just kidding. :)

The person who wrote the greasemonkey script that brought me to this list said that some problems people have can be cleared up by clearing Mozilla's browser cache - which is harder than it ought to be to figure out and took me some time, because Mozilla was created by teh sort of people who brought us greasemonkey. 

Cleaning the browser cache is "harder than it ought to be" ?? Really?

On Mozilla:
Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cache -> hit "Clear cache" button.

On Firefox
Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy -> Cache -> hit "Clear cache now" button.

Too difficult?

Another alternative:Install Prefbar (http://prefbar.mozdev.org ), after that you simply press the F8 key, and from the Preferences Toolbar hit the "Clear Cache" button. Simple isn't it?

What you might try is first clean out mozilla's browser cache, then uninstall mozilla, and reinstall it.  

You might also try hooking a red lace to your index finger, lay a circle of salt on the floor, then jump three times. It's been reported to work, by certain african tribes. ;-)

No just kidding. How about simply creating a new user profile? Creating a new user profile lets you start fresh, with a new cache and the default settings. I really doubt his problem is cache related, it sounds more like a "I don't know what I am doing" kind of problem.

You could also switch to Internet Explorer.   I use Mozilla only when I have to use one specific greasemonkey tool.    Less pain all around.   ;)    One hint; IE7 is full of problems; if you have it uninstall it and install IE 6.  

I think that it's the user who has the problem... calling Mozilla difficult and IE7 "full of problems" without further details is just generalizing. By the way do you use Mozilla, the old unsupported browser-and-email client? Have you heard of SeaMonkey, the succesor of it? Or are you just calling Firefox "Mozilla"?.

The Mozilla Foundation hosts several software:

-Firefox browser
-SeaMonkey project (formerly known as Mozilla browser suite)
-Thunderbird (e-mail client)
-Mozilla sute (abandoned, no longer supported, I'd be surprised if GM still worked on it)

Always be careful when installing scripts on your computer; alot of them exist for Mozilla that look very appealing, but they could always be viruses and other malicious code, or have incompatibilities.   They are seldom if ever written by professionals.   

Yeah script writers are stupid people, much more stupid than people who tell others to "uninstall IE7 because it's full of bugs, go back to IE6".

Now watch my reply get more interest than your query - and no, I won't be arguing with the Greasemonkey geeks!    ;)   

You could start  a career as a mailing list troll.

FC
 

[Fernando Cassia]

On 8/25/07, Martino Valbusa <martino...@gmail.com> wrote:

To whom it may concern
Dear Sir /  Madam,

Are you copying greetings from "this is not spam" nigerian scam e-mails? :)

This is Martino Valbusa writing from Verona, Italy. I hope that this finds you well.

It found me well, it even found its way to the mailing list. Congratulations. :)

I gave Greasemonkey a 2-week trial period, but I decided to uninstall it because it generally made my surfing less easy.

Care to elaborate? Greasemonkey by itself does nothing. How did it made your browsing "less easy" ? Did it pick you in the eyes, move your chair, and generally annoy you while web browsing?.

No really, after installing GreaseMonkey, what greasemonkey scripts did you install on it? Care to list them with names and location?. What was the purpose for which you installed Greasemonkey? What problem were you trying to solve? Or did you just install Greasemonkey because somoene told you "it was cool" and you were really not knowing well what you were doing?

Most screens had become difficult to read (gmail included).

Please, post a screenshot.

I did uninstall Greasemonkey from my computer but... it looks as though Greasemonkey is still there, hidden somewhere in my computer!

Try looking under the keyboard (joke).
 

As a matter of fact, Firefox keeps me showing all internet pages in black and white; all colours have vanished, I cannot see most icons... It's pain!

You have disabled images! and colors!.
I don't know how you could blame Greasemonkey for that. Greasemonkey by itself does nothing, you must install GM scripts to do that.

I did try to uninstall Firefox and re-install it again. Failure: it looks as though Greasemonkey is still there, even though I uninstalled it from the proper Firefox Tools menu.

What version of Firefox are you running?. If 2.0 or higher, why don't you install the Preferences Toolbar (http://prefbar.mozdev.org) and see if "colors" and "images" have a checkbox?

Follow this procedure:

Go to this page:
http://prefbar.mozdev.org/installation.html
^click on "install prefbar"

After it's been installed, close and re-start the browser (make sure no copies were left active in the background). Then hit F8, you'll see the Preferences Toolbar. Now see if there's a checkmark next to "colors" and "Images". Both should be checked (not empty).

I can't help saying that I am quite upset, this has been the first time that I do not have a clue on how to solve a problem on a computer of mine and I use computers since 1990...

I will reply with a funny quote I once heard from a pair of movie critics:

-He's a good movie director, has been in this field since the 1960s
-Well, that's no guarantee... cows that see a train  passing by every day do not become rail machinists!!

;)

I could format the hard disk, of course, but I would be happy to avoid the ultimate solution.

You could also use some gasoline and a match. No really. Ultimate solution??. How about creating a new user profile?
Call firefox with the -profilemanager parameter, and create a new profile

I do hope that you can help me out.

Ok, I tried at least...

Thanking you in advance for your time and assistance,

Hope I didn't make you more mad. If so, there's always the "final solution" that you referred to... OR use a hammer... :)

I send you my kindest regards.
Martino - Verona, Italy

FC

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 8/25/07, Martino Valbusa <martino...@gmail.com> wrote:

I did uninstall Greasemonkey from my computer but... it looks as though Greasemonkey is still there, hidden somewhere in my computer! As a matter of fact, Firefox keeps me showing all internet pages in black and white; all colours have vanished, I cannot see most icons... It's pain!

I did try to uninstall Firefox and re-install it again. Failure: it looks as though Greasemonkey is still there, even though I uninstalled it from the proper Firefox Tools menu.

Try 'about:config' in the Location window; then filter on 'grease'.  If you find, as I think you will, that even uninstalled GM leaves some things behind in the configuration, right-click on each and select "Default".  Then shut down and restart Firefox.  Please let the list know if that works (or not).

Patrick

[Aaron Boodman]

Hi tiggernut. Out of curiosity, what user script did you install?

On 8/25/07, Dora Smith <vill...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>

[Anthony Lieuallen]

On 9/5/2007 3:10 PM, martino...@gmail.com wrote:
> I will now try to re-install Firefox and see if it works, then I'll
> let you know.

Don't, it won't help. If there's a problem, it's in your profile, and
reinstalling won't touch your profile.

Try setting up a new blank profile:
http://trac.arantius.com/wiki/BlankProfile

[Fernando Cassia]

I second this suggestion... try a new profile...

FC

[esquifit]

1) Could you provide some screenshots of what you describe as "black and white"?

2) Have you tried to display these very same (problematic) pages with
a different browser (Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari, Epiphany,
Galeon, etc, to name a few)?

3) Are you using your accessing the Internet from you home or from
some network at work/university/etc? It could well be that some
policy is restricting access to some resources.

4) Are you sure you are not running any other software (local proxy,
firewall) that could interpose between your browser and the internet?

From your description the problem is with colours and images, this
suggests that something is preventing styles sheets (*.css) from
loading.

Anyway, if after having uninstalled and re-installed Firefox, and
created a new profile the problem persists, I would be very much
surprised if there were a connection with Greasemonkey (which after
all, is not there any more!)

[Alex Moyler]

1: Best bet would be to upload there somewhere like imageshack, tinypic or photobox and just send us an email with the links.

On 7 Sep 2007, at 16:20, martino...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you for your reply.

1) I would love to, but which e-mail address should I send the

pictures to? Thanks, I will definitely let you see how my screenshots

look like.

2) Good tip! I had not tried. I have just tried: Explorer gives me the

same result, no colours, just this black and white (and blue/purple

for the internet links, now that I notice that)

3) Home.

4) No extra firewalls apart the XP one. And Avast, working all the

time, but the problem started since I uninstalled Greasemonkey.

Thank you for your time and efforts.

Best regards,

Martino

Alex Moyler

deviantART Messaging Network Admin

http://narfmaster.deviantart.com

[esquifit]

2007/9/7, martino...@gmail.com <martino...@gmail.com>:

> 1) I would love to, but which e-mail address should I send the
> pictures to? Thanks, I will definitely let you see how my screenshots
> look like.

There are a number of free image hosting servers out there. A very
popular one is
http://imageshack.us/
which is often use for just this kind of things.

> 2) Good tip! I had not tried. I have just tried: Explorer gives me the
> same result, no colours, just this black and white (and blue/purple
> for the internet links, now that I notice that)

Then there is a one in a billion chance that this is due to
Greasemonkey. Again, I suspect that something is preventing
stylesheets from loading.

> 3) Home.
> 4) No extra firewalls apart the XP one. And Avast, working all the
> time, but the problem started since I uninstalled Greasemonkey.

I have no experience with Avast. Is there any kind of log file with a
register of its actions/activities?

[Fernando Cassia]

I wonder why are we losing time trying to help someone which is totally clueless on how computers work, and instead blamed "Greasemonkey" just because he felt like it, when it's obvious by reading his description that the problem happens EVEN WITH INTERNET EXPLORER!.

It might be that he has a bad connection between his monitor and PC, it could be that his graphics card (good luck trying to explain to him what it is!) is loose in a AGP/PCI/PCIe slot, or it could well be that his CRT monitor is not getting/showing one of the three RGB colours!

FC

On 9/7/07, esquifit <esqu...@googlemail.com> wrote:

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It is the Holy Grail
And then the BBC
Your life would be complete

-Manic Street Preachers, "Royal Correspondent"

[Fernando Cassia]

Sorry Martino,

I apologize... it's just that I got annoyed by your initial blaming on Greasemonkey, and then you switched to say it was the same on IE (then it was obviously not a GM or Firefox problem).

I have looked at your screenshots... and honestly never seen that behaviour before.

May I ask you what resolution and color depth is your graphics chipset configured at?

The lack of color depth in those screenshots reminded me of the time (a decade and a half ago) when graphics cards ran at 256 colors.

FC

On 9/9/07, martino...@gmail.com <martino...@gmail.com > wrote:

Hello everybody,

Thank you for your assistance!

Finally, here you can find two of my screenshots.

1 - http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15670470cu0.jpg
2 - http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=57995563dq1.png

To Fernando: there are two profiles on this laptop I am using, mine
and my father's. His, it doesn't give him any colour trouble when
browsing Internet (he's a Firefox user, too). I do hope that the
others won't pick up your invitation and will help me further =)

"If you tolerate this, your children will be next" [Manic Street
Preachers]

On 8 Set, 04:45, "Fernando Cassia" < fcas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder why are we losing time trying to help someone which is totally
> clueless on how computers work, and instead blamed "Greasemonkey" just
> because he felt like it, when it's obvious by reading his description that
> the problem happens EVEN WITH INTERNET EXPLORER!.
>
> It might be that he has a bad connection between his monitor and PC, it
> could be that his graphics card (good luck trying to explain to him what it
> is!) is loose in a AGP/PCI/PCIe slot, or it could well be that his CRT
> monitor is not getting/showing one of the three RGB colours!
>
> FC
>

[Anthony Lieuallen]

On 9/9/2007 9:05 AM, martino...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thank you for your assistance!
> Finally, here you can find two of my screenshots.
> 1 - http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15670470cu0.jpg
> 2 - http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=57995563dq1.png

Tools, Options, Content. Button Colors, background color. Default is
white, looks like you've set it to grey.

[esquifit]

Actually: Tools, Options, Content, Colors, "Allow web sites to use their own colors" (or something like this, my locale is not English)

2007/9/9, Anthony Lieuallen < aran...@gmail.com>:

[LouCypher]

On Sep 9, 9:30 pm, esquifit <esqui...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Actually: Tools, Options, Content, Colors, "Allow web sites to use their own
> colors" (or something like this, my locale is not English)
>

If it's Italian locale:
Strumenti, Opzioni..., Contenuti, Colori..., "Permetti alle pagine di
scegliere i propri colori invece di quelli impostati"

--
LouCypher