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cacelotto

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Apr 25, 2001, 4:30:54 AM4/25/01
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Hi. Now that I use LD I can see there's always a connection to IP
64.12.25.* (it should be DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM) on remote port 5190.

Does anyone know what kind of program do it? (Spedia?)
Is there a way to know?
Thx

cacelotto

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Apr 25, 2001, 4:37:02 AM4/25/01
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Sorry. I found myself the answer. It's ICQ.

Steve Cox

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Apr 25, 2001, 4:50:19 AM4/25/01
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"cacelotto" <smei...@acm.org> wrote in message
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>
> Sorry. I found myself the answer. It's ICQ.
>


You may want to check this out about Lockdown:

www.pchelpers.org

abujamal

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Apr 25, 2001, 5:34:19 AM4/25/01
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Salaam!

"cacelotto" <smei...@acm.org> wrote:

You need to visit grc.ten-forwrd.pchelp or add the server
news.pchelponline.org to your server list and read the
pch.projects.lockdown newsgroup. You have a problem
you don't even know about: you're running Lockdown.

>Thx

was-salaam,
abujamal

dafunks

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Apr 25, 2001, 9:39:13 AM4/25/01
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Sure, you use ICQ right? ICQ

dafunks

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Apr 25, 2001, 9:40:45 AM4/25/01
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Sure, you use ICQ right? ICQ now has banner on there messages,
and that is the banner image being drawn from there server. I dont
use Lockdown, if and when i run a firewall its Conseal, and have
noticed that sonce ICQ added the banners on there message boxes.

Hope this helps!

dafunks

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Apr 25, 2001, 9:47:05 AM4/25/01
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heh, i should really have read the responses before posting. My
bad :)

dafunks

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Apr 25, 2001, 10:07:14 AM4/25/01
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Ignore him. He's just mad because ive rightly pointed out he has
no clue, not even remotly about security.

Abu, why do you continue posting on places like here with your
limited knowledge? Step aside old man, and just watch and read,
you may learn something. That is, if you can get it past your super
inflated ego that is!

Follow him if you wish. They will try and talk you out having a
defence program that has the ability to monitor all port connections
through two custom coded means, and also have the abilty to detect
trojans when the signature files are rendered useless! In its place,
they want you to download and pay for a trojan defence program
(Trojan Defence Suit) that hasnt the ability to catch the most
widely used backdoor, that being Subseven.

There software has been pointed out as a joke, there site has been
pointed out as giving off false impressions (they have changed
the wording on the site since then).

Abu, i really hope people like you defend such a product, with
the limited resources you have to pull in its defence, it makes
my job a hellofa lot easier!

They are trying to sell you a product that if you question them
in what they do, they call you a terrorist, spammer, hacker, lamer,
script kiddie, they post under there names making stupid posts
and blame it on you, they generate spam and point the blame at
you. There freuds and there also not the type of people you would
accosiate with a supposide security company!

Its your choice of course.

Abu, behave yourself, you may have the upper hand in court were
you know your shit, but just because you know that feild and are
supposidly quite well respected in it, you are not here, you are
nothing, you are a nobody. Your opinions are boardering on the
psychopathic.

What is it i have been accused of since entering that newsgroup
with a few issues i wanted to point out? Its unbeleivable the lenghts
you people have went in trying to denouce my word.

How have you behaved during all this? Like an upstanding memeber
of this community? I hardly think so. You have spammed and personally
attacked me when i tried to justify my opinions.

Its ridiculous to think that a person cannot speak his mind is
whats is meant to be an open discussion. I wasnt rude, nor in the
slightest bit offencive. Within one day of getting there, i was
accountable for causing mayhem in the group. You were the moron
spamming everything thread with un'needed crap and also spamming
other groups because you had no other input due to your lack of
understaning of anything security related.

Stick to what you know, and dont comment on what you dont!

Regards

Danuk

Gryph

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Apr 25, 2001, 11:14:02 AM4/25/01
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daf...@evil.co.uk
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:07:14 -0700
>
> Danuk
>


Who the fuck are you, and which rock did you crawl out from under?

Go away and play with your LD2000 millenium crapware GUI bullshit
pretending to be software overpriced puss and leave those of us who know
the smallest modicum of scripting to use software that works, and doesn't
just *claim* to work.

Michael Paris and his team of dickheads have successfully ripped off
enough poor newbies to retire to the Bahamas. Why don't you phuk off with
them?

No cheers for you child

--
"Ticking away, the moments that make up a dull day..."

Gryph

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Apr 25, 2001, 11:17:13 AM4/25/01
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...and learn how to use a spell checker

Robert Wycoff

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Apr 25, 2001, 12:44:18 PM4/25/01
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"Gryph" <exgr...@hypersurf.iwarp.whoputhtisbogusbitinhere.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.155187754...@news.grc.com...

> ...and learn how to use a spell checker

Gryph,

One of his posts said he is dyslecticm, which has some affect on his
spelling. He has been posting in grc.ten-forward.pchelp and he followed
abujamal here to discredit him
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Carlene

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Apr 25, 2001, 10:36:57 PM4/25/01
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"dafunks" <daf...@evil.co.uk> wrote:
>Danuk

Well dafunks, despite you're lame dyslexia excuse for poor grammer
speeling errors EVERY OTHER WORD, you'd think you could get your
own name right.

To all concerned, dafunk is a Lockdown shill.

A member of the Sub7 BEdWetTeRzZ CrEw, now in league with the con-man-in-charge
-- Michal Paris, at Lockdown.

"dafinks" a pachological liar, and his CrEw is even now as we speak,
ebombing Keith of pchelp, Wayne of DiamondCS (makers of the excellent
TDS-3 trojan defence suite), abujamal, and davidovv (whom we all
know and respect) with THOUSANDS of FORGED emails that are poorly
disguised to appear as though written by DiamondCS. Well, they're
NOT!

Their claims that TDS-3 fails to detect their Sub7 trojan was based
upon a test they did in which they did not pull the signiture files.
Lamers! Even Innoculate-IT requires this!

This "dafunks" also denies involvement with the spamming, but over
in ten-forward.pchelp, he keeps sticking his foot in mouth and
provides mounting evidence of his guilt here. He is an admitted
little haXor, and Sub7 groupie. What WE know about him now, is
that he's also in league with Michael Paris, and has demonstrated
himself fully to being also a low life, scumball and most obviously...
an idiot.

For additional details on dafunks, you can go to the grc pchelp
forum, or, see the webpage that describes him best...

http://151.200.3.8/~vze29k6v/you.html

Expect every post made that clarifies his backgrounds, motives,
or anything else that is not pro-lockdown, and you will be countered
by him. After all, he's being PAID to do this. Yes he'll vigorously
deny it, and get vulgar about it. But the evidence is in grc.ten-forward.pchelp
-- all the evidence you'll ever need.

Regards
Carlene

Milly

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Apr 25, 2001, 11:04:34 PM4/25/01
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In article <ZzhQDnf...@colossus.SMG>, Carlene said...

>
> "dafunks" <daf...@evil.co.uk> wrote:
> >Danuk
>
> Well dafunks, despite you're lame dyslexia excuse for poor grammer
> speeling errors EVERY OTHER WORD, you'd think you could get your
> own name right.

It is his name. "dafunks" is his handle.


>
> To all concerned, dafunk is a Lockdown shill.
>
> A member of the Sub7 BEdWetTeRzZ CrEw,

> [..snipped..]

Other than his attack upon Abujamal, his posts to this thread were
accurate and helpful (if a little late).

GRC's Kelly has repeatedly asked us to refrain from engaging in troll
threads.

Even Abujamal resisted the urge to respond.

Links to grc.ten-forward.pchelp and news.pchelponline.org have already
been given in the thread.

It's patronising, at best, to imagine anyone reading the thread, now a
day old, would need further warning about LockDown or "dafunks", let
alone interspersed with personal attacks.

The only likely effect of your post will be to provoke a further
response by him, and so on. Precisely what we've been asked to avoid.

I'm sure we all appreciate your motives, but I wonder if perhaps you
might reconsider your tactics.

--
Milly

NoNameGiven

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Apr 25, 2001, 11:23:11 PM4/25/01
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"Robert Wycoff" <rober...@deja.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Gryph" <exgr...@hypersurf.iwarp.whoputhtisbogusbitinhere.com> wrote

:
And that would be all the more reason to use a spell checker. Lysdexics
of the world Untie!!
-- NNG
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Carlene

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Apr 26, 2001, 12:47:52 AM4/26/01
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Milly <no...@m.gov> casually wrote without thinking:
SNIP!
>Milly


I suppose I would have refrained Milly, except that you (who has)
and additional NEW readers (who will), overlook that statement
by dafunks, which you seem to think is so "accurate"...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
dafunks:


They will try and talk you out having a defence program that has
the ability to monitor all port connections through two custom
coded means, and also have the abilty to detect trojans when the
signature files are rendered useless! In its place, they want
you to download and pay for a trojan defence program (Trojan
Defence Suit) that hasnt the ability to catch the most widely
used backdoor, that being Subseven.

There software has been pointed out as a joke, there site has been
pointed out as giving off false impressions (they have changed
the wording on the site since then)."

-----------------------------------------------------------------

WELL IT'S NOT ACCURATE MILLY! WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU? It is
the same tired old bold and blatant lie they are attempting to
perpetrate on the ignorant at the expense of Wayne/DiamonCS. Shame
on you!

If posting to day-old topics really bothers you Milly, why don't
don't you cozy on over to Steve and ask him to lock topics that
were started more than 24 hours previous? Or even 72? Or a week?

I HAVE reconsidered my "tactics", and do no longer reply to troll
posts that do not iterate the lie's perpetrated against Wayne and
his livlyhood.

I HAVE responded to Kelly's requests, I even got an e-mail from
her. Go look at some of the posts I've "refrained" from replying
to, in deferrence to Kelly, over in pchelp. I'm a "bitch", a "tired
old hag", "on the rag", and so on. Well after reading YOUR post
Milly, in support of him, MAYBE HE'S RIGHT FOR THE MOMENT.

I DON'T NEED YOUR COMMENTARY! :(

But I'm sure Michael Paris will thank you for your support.

Regards
Carlene

Milly

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Apr 26, 2001, 1:28:48 AM4/26/01
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In article <wAKRNwgz...@colossus.SMG>, Carlene said...

>
> Milly <no...@m.gov> casually wrote without thinking:

Now you choose to insult me?

> SNIP!
> >Milly
>
> I suppose I would have refrained Milly, except that you (who has)
> and additional NEW readers (who will), overlook that statement
> by dafunks, which you seem to think is so "accurate"...

Why do you think I think it is accurate? I said his *other* posts were
accurate, specifically excluding the one attacking Abujamal which you
quote.

And why do you think new readers, who already had the benefit of the
links I mentioned, need further persuasion? And even if you do, why do
you think such a tirade of invective and personal attacks would be
persuasive? In contrast, for example, to Abujamal's calm, measured,
helpful response.

> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> dafunks:
> They will try and talk you out having a defence program that has
> the ability to monitor all port connections through two custom
> coded means, and also have the abilty to detect trojans when the
> signature files are rendered useless! In its place, they want
> you to download and pay for a trojan defence program (Trojan
> Defence Suit) that hasnt the ability to catch the most widely
> used backdoor, that being Subseven.
>
> There software has been pointed out as a joke, there site has been
> pointed out as giving off false impressions (they have changed
> the wording on the site since then)."
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> WELL IT'S NOT ACCURATE MILLY!

No kidding.

> WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?

I'm casually writing without thinking, and have completely reversed
everything I've ever thought and said about Lockdown and their
supportive trolls. Apparently.

> It is
> the same tired old bold and blatant lie they are attempting to
> perpetrate on the ignorant at the expense of Wayne/DiamonCS.

No kidding.

> Shame on you!

Did it not even occur to you that you'd got hold of the wrong end of the
stick? Even if you found my phrasing ambiguous?

> If posting to day-old topics really bothers you Milly, why don't
> don't you cozy on over to Steve and ask him to lock topics that
> were started more than 24 hours previous? Or even 72? Or a week?

So that's insults, mischaractisations, and now facetiousness. Sigh.

> I HAVE reconsidered my "tactics", and do no longer reply to troll
> posts that do not iterate the lie's perpetrated against Wayne and
> his livlyhood.

Which is likely to leave an unhealthy supply still fitting your
criteria. To no one's benefit, and to the detriment of the GRC groups.

> I HAVE responded to Kelly's requests, I even got an e-mail from
> her. Go look at some of the posts I've "refrained" from replying
> to, in deferrence to Kelly, over in pchelp. I'm a "bitch", a "tired
> old hag", "on the rag", and so on.

So why not continue to refrain? Wayne is not harmed by such attacks (he
even suggests his sales have increased), nor is anyone else (with the
possible exception of Paris). Despite your intentions, all you achieve
is to feed the trolls.

> Well after reading YOUR post
> Milly, in support of him, MAYBE HE'S RIGHT FOR THE MOMENT.

I don't know what you mean, and I've said not one word of support for
him.

> I DON'T NEED YOUR COMMENTARY! :(
>
> But I'm sure Michael Paris will thank you for your support.

Which would be laughable, if it weren't so sad. I'm afraid your judgment
has done awry, which perhaps explains your misplaced enthusiasm for this
current 'role'.

--
Milly

Carlene

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Apr 26, 2001, 2:03:29 AM4/26/01
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Milly <no...@m.gov> wrote:
>Why do you think I think it is accurate? I said his *other*
>posts were accurate, specifically excluding the one attacking
>Abujamal which you quote.

That is a bold faced lie. Here is what you wrote:

"Other than his attack upon Abujamal, his posts to this thread
were accurate and helpful (if a little late)."

So now I see you twist and lie, and do it DELIBERATLY. I thought
I liked your posts over these months. Now I see what and who you
really are.

No, I'm not implying you are a lockdown schill. My statement earlier
"But I'm sure Michael Paris will thank you for your support", should
have read, and I meant it to read "would thank you", not "will
thank you". I can see how that slip would be taken, I did not mean
it "that way".

But your slip, that was not the use of a single wrong word. You
clearly stated that dafunk's staements were "accurate and helpful",
and then in the last post, tried to change that, literally, to
"his *other* posts. A bold and blatant lie as I said.

So I won't bother with the rest of your poo. You're on my poo list,
you're going to stay there, and that's that. No additional lying
will sway me, although persuasive as you are, and consistant...
I'm sure you'll lead others astray following this up.

You lied.
PLONK!

Gina Dennison

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Apr 26, 2001, 2:30:53 AM4/26/01
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:03:29 -0700, "Carlene"
<l6xso6xcx...@DIEsneakeSPAMMERmail.com> wrote:

>
>Milly <no...@m.gov> wrote:
>>Why do you think I think it is accurate? I said his *other*
>>posts were accurate, specifically excluding the one attacking
>>Abujamal which you quote.
>
>That is a bold faced lie. Here is what you wrote:
>
>"Other than his attack upon Abujamal, his posts to this thread
>were accurate and helpful (if a little late)."

"Other than his attack upon Abujamal..." She is categorizing the
entire post as an attack. Get it?

>So now I see you twist and lie, and do it DELIBERATLY. I thought
>I liked your posts over these months. Now I see what and who you
>really are.

I have been following these groups for more than a year, and Milly's
posts are always useful and thought-provoking. What and who she is
includes being one of the most helpful and respected posters here,
and rightfully so. You have misunderstood, and your insults are way
out of line.

<snip>

>I'm sure you'll lead others astray following this up.

Not a chance, I'm sure.

>You lied.

Nope, she didn't. You misunderstood.

Gina

Carlene

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Apr 26, 2001, 2:57:55 AM4/26/01
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mi...@excite.com (Gina Dennison) wrote:
>I have been following these groups for more than a year, and
>Milly's posts are always useful and thought-provoking. What
>and who she is includes being one of the most helpful and
>respected posters here, and rightfully so. You have
>misunderstood, and your insults are way out of line.

I am aware of her reputation. I like her posts too. She support
for the accuracy of dafuncs statements took me by surprise.

>>She lied


>Nope, she didn't. You misunderstood.

No I didn't. Go back and study. You are mistaken. You cannot "skim
read". The facts are there. There easy to understand. It's right
there for you to see. It's that easy. So YOU misunderstood. Read
it again. Don't post back any more glossed over red herrings. She
lied. Period.

NoNameGiven

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Apr 26, 2001, 5:24:25 AM4/26/01
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Hi Carlene,
I think the "dafunks" (so tempting to type defunct :) posts that Milly
meant were helpful had been posted earlier in the thread, where dafunks
pointed out ICQ banners as the cause of the connection on port 5190. My
newsreader shows his "inflammatory" post (from 4/25 @08:07) first, even
though it was posted later and his helpful posts (from 4/25 @07:30,
07:40 &07:47) end up at the tail of the thread. I hope this helps in
clearing up an unfortunate misunderstanding? ~Cheers!
-- NNG
P.S. Sorry if this is a repost, but it appears gremlins may have
snacked on the first try :(

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"Carlene" <l6xso6xcx...@DIEsneakeSPAMMERmail.com> wrote in message
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:


: mi...@excite.com (Gina Dennison) wrote:
: >I have been following these groups for more than a year, and
: >Milly's posts are always useful and thought-provoking. What
: >and who she is includes being one of the most helpful and
: >respected posters here, and rightfully so. You have
: >misunderstood, and your insults are way out of line.
:
: I am aware of her reputation. I like her posts too. She support
: for the accuracy of dafuncs statements took me by surprise.

:
<snip>

NoNameGiven

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Apr 26, 2001, 5:09:36 AM4/26/01
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Hi Carlene,
I think the "dafunks" (so tempting to type defunct :) posts that Milly
meant were helpful had been posted earlier in the thread, where dafunks
pointed out ICQ banners as the cause of the connection on port 5190. My
newsreader shows his "inflammatory" post (from 4/25 @08:07) first, even
though it was posted later and his helpful posts (from 4/25 @07:30,
07:40 &07:47) end up at the tail of the thread. I hope this helps in
clearing up an unfortunate misunderstanding? ~Cheers!
-- NNG
*** I Hate SPAM (from the can or via e-mail) ***
Resistance is futi.... ohhhh cookies!! --MS of Borg

"Carlene" <l6xso6xcx...@DIEsneakeSPAMMERmail.com> wrote in message
news:20Gb44h...@colossus.SMG...
:

: mi...@excite.com (Gina Dennison) wrote:
: >I have been following these groups for more than a year, and
: >Milly's posts are always useful and thought-provoking. What
: >and who she is includes being one of the most helpful and
: >respected posters here, and rightfully so. You have
: >misunderstood, and your insults are way out of line.
:
: I am aware of her reputation. I like her posts too. She support
: for the accuracy of dafuncs statements took me by surprise.

:
<snip>

Gryph

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Apr 26, 2001, 7:49:57 AM4/26/01
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l6xso6xcx...@DIEsneakeSPAMMERmail.com
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:36:57 -0700

I did post a pretty full-on abuse rocket fuel flame, but deleted it just
after I posted it. I figured the sad little germ wasn't worth the time or
effort. Of course, if he keeps up the poor attitude, I *will* make myself
well and truly known to him.

:o)

Cheers,
Gryph

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