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For baby chicks, go to the feed store and get the regular baby chick feed.
It comes medicated or not. It they have been vaccinated, get the plain. If
not, get the medicated. They'll live a whole lot better.
The medicated feed will kill baby ducks. It's not really "medicated", it's
more of a vaccination, it contains spores ( I think they're killed) of a
very common ailment that kills baby chicks.
The alternative is that you can send for the "organic" base, then find a
local source for finely ground "organic" grain, and mix your own. Or grind
your own. McMurray has it I think, and a couple of others. If the chicks
come before the feed, give them corn meal or oatmeal from your kitchen.
Mostly, keep them warm!! 95 the first week, down 5 degrees a week, and room
for them to get away from it. Heat lamp and a hanging thermometer. And
never let the water run out!! Those 2 things are really more critical than
the food.
The other alternative----the best one really, is a mother hen.
The hen can eat chick food----forever if necessary.
The chicks should not be eating layer feed though, it's not quite right for
them.
One 50 lb. bag of baby chick feed will last 25 new chicks the first month.
The second month they will need about 2 bags.
The 3rd month you'll be wondering what you got yourself into.
And chickens are ominvores-----they'll eat just about anything and thrive on
it. They normally eat meat, vegetables, fruits, grains, and dairy products.
And anything else they can find. Baby chicks are delicate for the first
couple of weeks or so, but after that you can give them all kinds of
leftovers in addition to their regular food.
Those feed companies spend billions on research to find the perfect formula
for baby chicks to succeed for big commercial production. It contains all
the vitamins and trace minerals they need and things you never even thought
of. So enjoy all their effort and money and use a bagful to give yours a
good solid start too.
Chicks are expensive, and not as easy to raise as it looks. And you feel so
bad when the cute little fuzzy things die. You can tell which ones are
roosters, they are the ones trying to kill themselves in all sorts of
creative ways.
Diane S.
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On the topic of chicken food - I was recycling an egg carton the other day
and it was for some 'cage free - organic eggs' and the hens had been fed a
vegetarian diet. Poor girls, no bugs in their 'free range'? How sad. ;<
Deb
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Kelly:
Your list of predators is worse than mine. I had to worry about coons, fox, opossum, bobcat, and the occasional hawk. Even with a fenced yard, everything could climb in or jump over. But I never lost a bird during the day, except to dogs. Dogs kill for pleasure, and can kill many at a time. Other than dogs, I never had a loss during the day. All of my nasties came out at night. Chickens usually go to bed early, allowing you to lock them in. They also get up early. My coop allowed them to let themselves out, and most losses were early in the morning, before or at dawn. Hawk losses are during day, but impossible to stop if your birds are let out. Fortunately those losses are usually extremely small. I never lost a chicken to a hawk.
I was in the process of redesigning my coop when I moved, and I now live where chickens are verboten. My design included an automatic door set on a timer. This way I didn't have to let the chickens out before I left for work, around 5:00 AM, when it was still dark. The timer was going to be set for 7:00 AM. Usually my birds were back in for the night between 4 & 5 PM, well before dark, so the timer would close for 5:00. But I never built this. I also used a baby monitor to listen to the coop from inside my house. Noises at night meant a problem. However, the crowing started around 4, and the baby monitor picked up that too. I was toying with the idea of video feed from the coop, and would have probably added that to my design.
A trained dog, or dogs, can be excellent protection. If you have the space, one or two dogs can do a great job. I have also heard of goats protecting chickens. Goats and chickens are a natural fit.
So, to finely get around to answering your question, if you have a fenced inclosure, and your birds don't fly over the fence, they will probably be safe during the day. Without a fence, you may have problems, especially if you are close to woods where predators can hide. If you have chickens that fly, and trees they can reach, that will help. A large nasty rooster can also help, if you don't mind running for your life every now and then.
Lowell
On 4/25/2012 4:46 PM, Kelly Phillipson wrote:
Thank you Lowell, I had to ask my husband what wildlife we have here (we just moved) - some cougars, bob cats, not too many wolves, weasles, etc., my chickens will be easy targets definitely. My husband is in the thought process of building a coop, so we'll make sure that sucker is stable and has a bunch of wire around it. Do you think it would be OK to let them run around in the yard during the day by themselves or maybe only when I'm out back with them?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Trae Dever <tr...@dever.us> wrote:
Kelly:
What types do you have? Be careful about predators. I have no idea what kind of area you live in, which usually determines what type of predators, but chickens are easy targets. Especially in the early morning.
Lowell
On 4/23/2012 3:15 PM, Kelly Phillipson wrote:
Great! I am so excited to get the "girls" outside and on the grass! I have also been looking up worm gardens on-line and think I'm going to start one. We went back to a different feed store and now we have 12 all together; a flock :) Has been such a fun experience so far. Thank you for the magazine link, can't wait to read it!
Kelly
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM, DebSkinner <deb9...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chickens really like small green plants. Protect your garden.As others have mentioned, they like most fruits and leafy greens. I've had a lot of fun watching them pick their own grapes off a trellised vine. One flew up and sat on the vine, but most of them stayed on the ground and jumped for the grapes. ;>After you harvest it is ok to put the chickens into your garden. They'll eat weeds, some of the plants you are through with, and leave their own brand of fertilizer behind.I've learned a lot from the magazine version of http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/ as well as lists such as this.Deb
If *I* ran the world, we'd all face different challenges. ;>
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Hi Deb,
You said it really well - each generation seems to be getting more symptoms than those before, at least in my family! Feels good to break the chain, but I still can't go all day without missing my coffee ;)
Yes! We are going to work on our garden soon too! We have the seeds, but need to make some beds. Will chickens eat the plants too or should I make them their own separate garden?
Kelly
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Kelly:
Your list of predators is worse than mine. I had to worry about coons, fox, opossum, bobcat, and the occasional hawk. Even with a fenced yard, everything could climb in or jump over. But I never lost a bird during the day, except to dogs. Dogs kill for pleasure, and can kill many at a time. Other than dogs, I never had a loss during the day. All of my nasties came out at night. Chickens usually go to bed early, allowing you to lock them in. They also get up early. My coop allowed them to let themselves out, and most losses were early in the morning, before or at dawn. Hawk losses are during day, but impossible to stop if your birds are let out. Fortunately those losses are usually extremely small. I never lost a chicken to a hawk.
I was in the process of redesigning my coop when I moved, and I now live where chickens are verboten. My design included an automatic door set on a timer. This way I didn't have to let the chickens out before I left for work, around 5:00 AM, when it was still dark. The timer was going to be set for 7:00 AM. Usually my birds were back in for the night between 4 & 5 PM, well before dark, so the timer would close for 5:00. But I never built this. I also used a baby monitor to listen to the coop from inside my house. Noises at night meant a problem. However, the crowing started around 4, and the baby monitor picked up that too. I was toying with the idea of video feed from the coop, and would have probably added that to my design.
A trained dog, or dogs, can be excellent protection. If you have the space, one or two dogs can do a great job. I have also heard of goats protecting chickens. Goats and chickens are a natural fit.
So, to finely get around to answering your question, if you have a fenced inclosure, and your birds don't fly over the fence, they will probably be safe during the day. Without a fence, you may have problems, especially if you are close to woods where predators can hide. If you have chickens that fly, and trees they can reach, that will help. A large nasty rooster can also help, if you don't mind running for your life every now and then.
Lowell
On 4/25/2012 4:46 PM, Kelly Phillipson wrote:
Thank you Lowell, I had to ask my husband what wildlife we have here (we just moved) - some cougars, bob cats, not too many wolves, weasles, etc., my chickens will be easy targets definitely. My husband is in the thought process of building a coop, so we'll make sure that sucker is stable and has a bunch of wire around it. Do you think it would be OK to let them run around in the yard during the day by themselves or maybe only when I'm out back with them?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Trae Dever <tr...@dever.us> wrote:
Kelly:
What types do you have? Be careful about predators. I have no idea what kind of area you live in, which usually determines what type of predators, but chickens are easy targets. Especially in the early morning.
Lowell
On 4/23/2012 3:15 PM, Kelly Phillipson wrote:
Great! I am so excited to get the "girls" outside and on the grass! I have also been looking up worm gardens on-line and think I'm going to start one. We went back to a different feed store and now we have 12 all together; a flock :) Has been such a fun experience so far. Thank you for the magazine link, can't wait to read it!
Kelly
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM, DebSkinner <deb9...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chickens really like small green plants. Protect your garden.As others have mentioned, they like most fruits and leafy greens. I've had a lot of fun watching them pick their own grapes off a trellised vine. One flew up and sat on the vine, but most of them stayed on the ground and jumped for the grapes. ;>After you harvest it is ok to put the chickens into your garden. They'll eat weeds, some of the plants you are through with, and leave their own brand of fertilizer behind.I've learned a lot from the magazine version of http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/ as well as lists such as this.Deb
If *I* ran the world, we'd all face different challenges. ;>
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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Grass-Fed-Eggs] Chicken food
Hi Deb,
You said it really well - each generation seems to be getting more symptoms than those before, at least in my family! Feels good to break the chain, but I still can't go all day without missing my coffee ;)
Yes! We are going to work on our garden soon too! We have the seeds, but need to make some beds. Will chickens eat the plants too or should I make them their own separate garden?
Kelly
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Kelly:
Your list of predators is worse than mine. I had to worry about coons, fox, opossum, bobcat, and the occasional hawk. Even with a fenced yard, everything could climb in or jump over. But I never lost a bird during the day, except to dogs. Dogs kill for pleasure, and can kill many at a time. Other than dogs, I never had a loss during the day. All of my nasties came out at night. Chickens usually go to bed early, allowing you to lock them in. They also get up early. My coop allowed them to let themselves out, and most losses were early in the morning, before or at dawn. Hawk losses are during day, but impossible to stop if your birds are let out. Fortunately those losses are usually extremely small. I never lost a chicken to a hawk.
I was in the process of redesigning my coop when I moved, and I now live where chickens are verboten. My design included an automatic door set on a timer. This way I didn't have to let the chickens out before I left for work, around 5:00 AM, when it was still dark. The timer was going to be set for 7:00 AM. Usually my birds were back in for the night between 4 & 5 PM, well before dark, so the timer would close for 5:00. But I never built this. I also used a baby monitor to listen to the coop from inside my house. Noises at night meant a problem. However, the crowing started around 4, and the baby monitor picked up that too. I was toying with the idea of video feed from the coop, and would have probably added that to my design.
A trained dog, or dogs, can be excellent protection. If you have the space, one or two dogs can do a great job. I have also heard of goats protecting chickens. Goats and chickens are a natural fit.
So, to finely get around to answering your question, if you have a fenced inclosure, and your birds don't fly over the fence, they will probably be safe during the day. Without a fence, you may have problems, especially if you are close to woods where predators can hide. If you have chickens that fly, and trees they can reach, that will help. A large nasty rooster can also help, if you don't mind running for your life every now and then.
Lowell
On 4/25/2012 4:46 PM, Kelly Phillipson wrote:
Thank you Lowell, I had to ask my husband what wildlife we have here (we just moved) - some cougars, bob cats, not too many wolves, weasles, etc., my chickens will be easy targets definitely. My husband is in the thought process of building a coop, so we'll make sure that sucker is stable and has a bunch of wire around it. Do you think it would be OK to let them run around in the yard during the day by themselves or maybe only when I'm out back with them?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Trae Dever <tr...@dever.us> wrote:
Kelly:
What types do you have? Be careful about predators. I have no idea what kind of area you live in, which usually determines what type of predators, but chickens are easy targets. Especially in the early morning.
Lowell
On 4/23/2012 3:15 PM, Kelly Phillipson wrote:
Great! I am so excited to get the "girls" outside and on the grass! I have also been looking up worm gardens on-line and think I'm going to start one. We went back to a different feed store and now we have 12 all together; a flock :) Has been such a fun experience so far. Thank you for the magazine link, can't wait to read it!
Kelly
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM, DebSkinner <deb9...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chickens really like small green plants. Protect your garden.As others have mentioned, they like most fruits and leafy greens. I've had a lot of fun watching them pick their own grapes off a trellised vine. One flew up and sat on the vine, but most of them stayed on the ground and jumped for the grapes. ;>After you harvest it is ok to put the chickens into your garden. They'll eat weeds, some of the plants you are through with, and leave their own brand of fertilizer behind.I've learned a lot from the magazine version of http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/ as well as lists such as this.Deb
If *I* ran the world, we'd all face different challenges. ;>
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Hi Deb,
You said it really well - each generation seems to be getting more symptoms than those before, at least in my family! Feels good to break the chain, but I still can't go all day without missing my coffee ;)
Yes! We are going to work on our garden soon too! We have the seeds, but need to make some beds. Will chickens eat the plants too or should I make them their own separate garden?
Kelly
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