Windows 7 and Unicode (Tamil + Devanagari = Problem!)
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SriKanth!
Apr 2, 2011, 4:11:54 AM4/2/11
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Dear vinodh,
Recently I bought a laptop with Windows 7 installed. The damn thing is
not displaying unicode characters especially if i mix tamil and
devanagari together in almost all the browsers (IE9, Chrome,
Firefox).
I saw you had posted this problem already in several forums, were you
able to find any solution for this ?
SriKanth!
Recently I bought a laptop with Windows 7 installed. The damn thing is
not displaying unicode characters especially if i mix tamil and
devanagari together in almost all the browsers (IE9, Chrome,
Firefox).
I saw you had posted this problem already in several forums, were you
able to find any solution for this ?
SriKanth!
Vinodh Rajan
Apr 2, 2011, 4:20:28 AM4/2/11
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Hi Sri,
I think you are using Arial Unicode MS (or some other Multi-Script font) for both, Tamil and Devanagari. If that's the case, do not do so.
If the same font contains character blocks, only one block will be displayed correctly ;-(
I guess you already saw this: http://www.virtualvinodh.com/tamil-grantha
Yes.Thats a bug with the rendering engine in Windows 7. I had complained about his in the Unicode forum. The Microsoft Guy said.. they will look into this. Thats it.
No solution until now.
Using a separate font for Tamil, and another font for Devanagari.
We can only hope tha the issue will be solved in the next release of Windows
V
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I think you are using Arial Unicode MS (or some other Multi-Script font) for both, Tamil and Devanagari. If that's the case, do not do so.
If the same font contains character blocks, only one block will be displayed correctly ;-(
I guess you already saw this: http://www.virtualvinodh.com/tamil-grantha
Yes.Thats a bug with the rendering engine in Windows 7. I had complained about his in the Unicode forum. The Microsoft Guy said.. they will look into this. Thats it.
No solution until now.
Using a separate font for Tamil, and another font for Devanagari.
We can only hope tha the issue will be solved in the next release of Windows
V
2011/4/2 SriKanth! <srikk...@gmail.com>
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SriKanth!
Apr 2, 2011, 4:33:22 AM4/2/11
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Yes I am using Arial Unicode MS. This font in Windows XP is very clean
and both tamil and devanagari display is crisp. Its really unfortunate
it wont display in Windows 7.
On Apr 2, 1:20 pm, Vinodh Rajan <vinodh.vin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sri,
>
> I think you are using Arial Unicode MS (or some other Multi-Script font) for
> both, Tamil and Devanagari. If that's the case, do not do so.
>
> If the same font contains character blocks, only one block will be displayed
> correctly ;-(
>
> I guess you already saw this:http://www.virtualvinodh.com/tamil-grantha
>
> Yes.Thats a bug with the rendering engine in Windows 7. I had complained
> about his in the Unicode forum. The Microsoft Guy said.. they will look into
> this. Thats it.
>
> No solution until now.
>
> Using a separate font for Tamil, and another font for Devanagari.
>
> We can only hope tha the issue will be solved in the next release of Windows
>
> V
>
> 2011/4/2 SriKanth! <srikkant...@gmail.com>
and both tamil and devanagari display is crisp. Its really unfortunate
it wont display in Windows 7.
On Apr 2, 1:20 pm, Vinodh Rajan <vinodh.vin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sri,
>
> I think you are using Arial Unicode MS (or some other Multi-Script font) for
> both, Tamil and Devanagari. If that's the case, do not do so.
>
> If the same font contains character blocks, only one block will be displayed
> correctly ;-(
>
> I guess you already saw this:http://www.virtualvinodh.com/tamil-grantha
>
> Yes.Thats a bug with the rendering engine in Windows 7. I had complained
> about his in the Unicode forum. The Microsoft Guy said.. they will look into
> this. Thats it.
>
> No solution until now.
>
> Using a separate font for Tamil, and another font for Devanagari.
>
> We can only hope tha the issue will be solved in the next release of Windows
>
> V
>
T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 2, 2011, 4:48:49 AM4/2/11
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adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
A similar problem in my system also. But in IE9 it is ok. But in all other browsers, firefox, chrome, and epic it displays wrongly.
adiyen,
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
2011/4/2 SriKanth! <srikk...@gmail.com>
N. Ganesan
Apr 2, 2011, 7:25:21 AM4/2/11
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On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:48 AM, T.Raguveeradayal <raja...@gmail.com> wrote:
adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.A similar problem in my system also. But in IE9 it is ok. But in all other browsers, firefox, chrome, and epic it displays wrongly.
adiyen,dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
Raghu,
Does this mean other browsers have to be fixed?
Can you and Vinodh & others put up a web page, showing
how IE9 page looks comparing to Chrome, Firefox, IE pre-9, ...
then we can take steps to fix .
Anbudan
N. Ganesan
SriKanth!
Apr 2, 2011, 10:16:36 AM4/2/11
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I have seen fwd emails boasting 40% of Microsoft workforce is from
India. Surprising nobody cared for this :(
We can put a page on how the font gets ugly in Windows 7. I will try
that soon.
SriKanth!
India. Surprising nobody cared for this :(
We can put a page on how the font gets ugly in Windows 7. I will try
that soon.
SriKanth!
Shriramana Sharma
Apr 2, 2011, 1:08:29 PM4/2/11
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Why don't you put up screenshot samples yourself? It shouldn't be a
problem for a NASA scientist, LOL! Most keyboards have PrtSc keys,
nah? Anyhow, the fact that it is working in IE9 is proof that Peter
Constable acted upon Vinodh's complaint. Too bad Microsoft doesn't
backport fixes like other open platforms do. Maybe Mr Ganesan can use
his widespread influence to convince Microsoft people to do that,
since he has often (such as on the INFITT WG02 list) expressed
enthusiasm for getting such technical problems fixed.
problem for a NASA scientist, LOL! Most keyboards have PrtSc keys,
nah? Anyhow, the fact that it is working in IE9 is proof that Peter
Constable acted upon Vinodh's complaint. Too bad Microsoft doesn't
backport fixes like other open platforms do. Maybe Mr Ganesan can use
his widespread influence to convince Microsoft people to do that,
since he has often (such as on the INFITT WG02 list) expressed
enthusiasm for getting such technical problems fixed.
On 2011-04-02, N. Ganesan <naa.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:48 AM, T.Raguveeradayal <raja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
>> A similar problem in my system also. But in IE9 it is ok. But in all other
>> browsers, firefox, chrome, and epic it displays wrongly.
>> *adiyen,*
>> *dasan,
>> **T. Raguveeradayal
>> C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
>> ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
>> THIRUPPULLANI 623532
>> 04567-254242//919443301091
>> http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
>> http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com <http://rajamragu.spaces.live.com>***
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T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 3, 2011, 2:52:09 AM4/3/11
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adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
adiyen,
As requested by Sri Ganesan and Sri Ramana sarma, adiyen has attached the screen shots here.
I have referred www.sangatham.com for example.
In my earlier mail, I told IE renders correctly. But, strangely, IE also did not render it correctly today.
I have added the browsers names along with the name of the screen shot and for easy reference, I have underlined few words also.
At www.thinnai.com where smt Revathi Sankaran teaches Sanskrit, the same occurs.
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
N. Ganesan
Apr 3, 2011, 7:04:04 AM4/3/11
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Thanks, Raghu. will take this up.
Regards,
N. Ganesan
Shriramana Sharma
Apr 3, 2011, 8:22:52 AM4/3/11
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Where?
On 2011-04-03, N. Ganesan <naa.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Raghu. will take this up.
>
> Regards,
> N. Ganesan
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:52 AM, T.Raguveeradayal <raja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
>> As requested by Sri Ganesan and Sri Ramana sarma, adiyen has attached the
>> screen shots here.
>> I have referred www.sangatham.com for example.
>> In my earlier mail, I told IE renders correctly. But, strangely, IE also
>> did not render it correctly today.
>> I have added the browsers names along with the name of the screen shot and
>> for easy reference, I have underlined few words also.
>> At www.thinnai.com where smt Revathi Sankaran teaches Sanskrit, the same
>> occurs.
>>
>> *adiyen,*
>> *dasan,
>> **T. Raguveeradayal
>> C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
>> ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
>> THIRUPPULLANI 623532
>> 04567-254242//919443301091
>> http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
>> http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com <http://rajamragu.spaces.live.com/>***
T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 3, 2011, 9:09:50 AM4/3/11
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Sri Ganesan and Sri Ramana Sarma swamin,
Thanks. I am assured that you both will solve this.
adiyen,
Thanks. I am assured that you both will solve this.
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
SriKanth!
Apr 3, 2011, 9:59:05 AM4/3/11
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For now I have managed to work around this by having different fonts
(Mangal for devanagari, Arial unicode MS for tamil)...
Seems to work so far.
SriKanth!
(Mangal for devanagari, Arial unicode MS for tamil)...
Seems to work so far.
SriKanth!
T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 3, 2011, 10:46:39 AM4/3/11
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adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
Srikanth Ji,
You say about writing sanskrit.
But my problem is reading itself since the characters jump.
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
2011/4/3 SriKanth! <srikk...@gmail.com>
SriKanth!
SriKanth!
Apr 3, 2011, 11:29:00 AM4/3/11
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No sir, I was telling about reading also.
If you see this page: http://www.sangatham.com/bhagavad_gita/gita-chapter-1
it should look fine in Win 7 also, since i have used two different
fonts.
SriKanth!
On Apr 3, 7:46 pm, "T.Raguveeradayal" <rajamr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
> Srikanth Ji,
> You say about writing sanskrit.
> But my problem is reading itself since the characters jump.
> *adiyen,*
> *dasan,
> **T. Raguveeradayal
>
> 2011/4/3 SriKanth! <srikkant...@gmail.com>
If you see this page: http://www.sangatham.com/bhagavad_gita/gita-chapter-1
it should look fine in Win 7 also, since i have used two different
fonts.
SriKanth!
On Apr 3, 7:46 pm, "T.Raguveeradayal" <rajamr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> adiyen dasasya vignaapanam.
> Srikanth Ji,
> You say about writing sanskrit.
> But my problem is reading itself since the characters jump.
> *dasan,
> **T. Raguveeradayal
> C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
> ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
> THIRUPPULLANI 623532
> 04567-254242//919443301091http://thiruppul.blogspot.comhttp://thiruthiru.wordpress.com<http://rajamragu.spaces.live.com>***
> ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
> THIRUPPULLANI 623532
>
> 2011/4/3 SriKanth! <srikkant...@gmail.com>
T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 3, 2011, 12:45:42 PM4/3/11
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adiyen dasan.
Yes! It can be read without any difficulty. But the default fonts, Latha for Tamil, Mangal for Sanskrit do not look nice.
adiyen,
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 3, 2011, 12:51:52 PM4/3/11
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सञ्जय उवाच
दृष्ट्वा तु पाण्डवानीकं व्यूढं
दुर्योधनस्तदा।
आचार्यमुपसङ्गम्य राजा वचनमब्रवीत् ॥२॥
सञ्जय उवाच
दृष्ट्वा तु पाण्डवानीकं व्यूढं दुर्योधनस्तदा।
आचार्यमुपसङ्गम्य राजा वचनमब्रवीत् ॥२॥
adiyen just copied from your posting, pasted it in word, changed it into Arial Unicode MS and again copied and posted here.
Now both look identical except Sanjaya
If then, why the trouble when directly typing it?
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
T.Raguveeradayal
Apr 3, 2011, 1:15:08 PM4/3/11
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adiyen dasan.
Sri Ganesan Sir and Sri Ramana Sir,
Please look into the screen shots in the attached file. These are from www.thinnai.com
Here, IE9 displays correctly while all other browsers do not.
Please analyse.
adiyen,
dasan,
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
T. Raguveeradayal
C/O SRIRANGAM SRIMAD
ANDAVAN ASHRAMAM,
THIRUPPULLANI 623532
04567-254242//919443301091
http://thiruppul.blogspot.com
http://thiruthiru.wordpress.com
Jean-Luc Chevillard
Apr 3, 2011, 8:27:12 AM4/3/11
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To the Grantha Lipi Sabha, of course,
where there are thousands of people who constantly improve existing
Operating Systems ;-)
where there are thousands of people who constantly improve existing
Operating Systems ;-)
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>>>>> Can you and Vinodh& others put up a web page, showing
SriKanth!
Apr 7, 2011, 12:37:24 PM4/7/11
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On a Windows 7 machine, if you go to http://www.google.com/transliterate/tamil
and first type some tamil text, copy it and then change the
transliteration to Hindi / Sanskrit and then paste the tamil text.
now whatever you type in hindi/sanskrit the letters are broken.
We will have to see, whether google provides any solution...
and first type some tamil text, copy it and then change the
transliteration to Hindi / Sanskrit and then paste the tamil text.
now whatever you type in hindi/sanskrit the letters are broken.
We will have to see, whether google provides any solution...
Vinodh Rajan
Apr 7, 2011, 12:47:30 PM4/7/11
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Is this happening for Mangal font ?
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SriKanth!
Apr 7, 2011, 2:18:33 PM4/7/11
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Not the mangal font, the default font whatever that appears in all
browsers under Windows 7.
browsers under Windows 7.
Vinodh Rajan
Apr 7, 2011, 2:25:32 PM4/7/11
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Thats Mangal :-)
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